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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • #6152
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    vladmydad wrote: »
    You know I actually thought of you today Grace. From interacting with you on the weather chat, Your in a great situation on your island, being so isolated. Provided you have plenty of supplies/ prescriptions etc. you’ll outlive us all lol


    I think isolation is great but I wouldn't get complacent.

    "In 1918, eleven people were killed by the Spanish flu and a graveyard was established in Longyear City."

    "The decision to disallow burials came in 1950, when it was discovered that the bodies of residents who had died as a result of the 1918 flu pandemic had not begun to decompose. Today, scientists fear that the corpses, having been preserved by the permafrost in which they were buried, may still contain live strains of that same virus that killed 5% of the world's population in the 20th century."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longyearbyen


  • #6153
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    martingriff wrote: »
    Soon!!! Think your a bit late there. Thank god people are only able to get 1 box a visit. A friend of mine and her husband were going separately into a number of shops to get it




    They must have little for doing with themselves.


  • #6154
    Keyzer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    ZiabR wrote: »
    Breaking news on BBC. First case just confirmed in Cheltenham this morning as 1000s of Irish are due to land for the racing... Beyond a joke at this stage.

    200K people are expected to attend Cheltenham - utter stupidity.


  • #6155
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    They must have little for doing with themselves.

    No it was not like they were going out of there way. In there way to work, when going for lunch etc


  • #6156
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,002 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Montage of Feck wrote: »
    You can make your own aspirin from the bark of willow trees and of course doc leaves are a great alternative to toilet paper.

    Willow bark does contain small amounts of salicin which can have similar therapeutic effects to Aspirin, but it isn't the same and isn't nearly as effective. There was an interesting BBC program - Pain Puss and Poison - in which a chemist emphasised this point.


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  • #6157
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,336 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Pudsy33 wrote: »
    This isn't really the point though. He's a potential carrier and has been going around for 10 days potentially infecting others. That's why we need the test results. Self-isolation without test is l well and good if you've just arrived from Italy, not so much if you've been back for weeks.

    We are beyond this point now. As this gathers momentum the hse will only test people who are very ill and in hospital because soon there will be so many that they’ll simply have to ignore anyone who isn’t in hospital. They are saying they are still in the containment phase but really we’ve moved to the delay phase now. If you haven’t watched Leo’s press conference from last night you should, it’s on his Twitter. If I can find it I’ll link it in the thread.


  • #6158
    1641
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭1641


    Dante7 wrote: »
    Ireland want to slow down the spread of the virus to prevent economic collapse. The HSE have decided that the best way to achieve this is to not test many people.


    Rubbish. There is a limit to testing capacity. Therre is no conspiracy.


    We want to slow down the spread so that the health service can cope better - even though that is still likley to be a huge strain. Obviously we are now expecting huge numbers of ill people. There is a difference if these are all crammed into a 5 week period or extended over a 5 month period.


    And as numbers increase most of those who get ill will not be tested. There will not be resources to do that. It will be straight to self-isolation - or hospitalisation for the most severe.


  • #6159
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    NegativeCreep wrote: »
    I’ve a friend who returned from Italy a week and a half ago and has started showing symptoms. He called the hse and they just told him to self isolate for 2 weeks and that he won’t be getting tested unless his symptoms get more severe.
    I wouldn’t be best friends with him or anything but I don’t think he’d lie about this.
    This surely cannot be the stance of the hse? He’s symptomatic and returned from an infected region, he should be tested as a priority!

    This is crazy! Someone from an infected region - displaying symptoms - being told he can’t be tested until he gets worse? If it turns out he has it is this not a typical situation where contact tracing is needed for other people to self isolate.

    I would have thought it is not about treatment as he’ll likely be ok - but what about other people he’s been in contact with ? Was he near other people ?


  • #6160
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,336 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Anyone who didn’t watch varadkers press conference should watch it.

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1237063249050439683?s=21


  • #6161
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0310/1121280-coveney-covid-19/
    Still only advisory...Coveney has upgraded the advice to not travel to the whole of Italy
    Says Varadkar will be raising flights & EU co-ordinated responses at EU meeting today


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  • #6162
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Dante7 wrote: »
    Ireland want to slow down the spread of the virus to prevent economic collapse. The HSE have decided that the best way to achieve this is to not test many people.

    But how are contacts traced ??


  • #6163
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Cheltenham. What an absolute disgrace. The gambling and horse lobby have serious influence.


  • #6164
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    Paracetamol is the safest option.
    Few side effects, if any ....

    affects liver. they all have side effects. choose!


  • #6165
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,025 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Is there an argument to put anyone crossing our borders into isolation for 5 days and everyone on the island also isolates for 5 days, anyone or anyone in contact with somebody who then has it then goes into further isolation. We'd have a handle on this and controlled the spread within 10 days. We're a little island, I think it would be a drastic but sensible approach but spare us a lot of pain down the road.


  • #6166
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    MadYaker wrote: »
    We are beyond this point now. As this gathers momentum the hse will only test people who are very ill and in hospital because soon there will be so many that they’ll simply have to ignore anyone who isn’t in hospital. They are saying they are still in the containment phase but really we’ve moved to the delay phase now. If you haven’t watched Leo’s press conference from last night you should, it’s on his Twitter. If I can find it I’ll link it in the thread.

    Simon Coveney has confirmed this just now on Morning Ireland on RTE Radio 1.


  • #6167
    Fakediamond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭Fakediamond


    Having watched the experts on Claire Byrne Live and other programmes, I think that Professor McConkey’s approach of getting ahead of the virus by extreme measures is preferable to Dr de Gascun’s approach of let it happen and we’ll deal with it as we go along. My concern is that Dr de Gascun is the one on the advisory committee who has the ear of government and his cautious approach is the one being taken. I hope after last night that Prof McConkey’s advice is given more traction.

    I’ll be following Prof McConkey’s advice as much as possible. That means limiting social contact and definitely not attending large indoor gatherings.


  • #6168
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Do these new travel advisories mean you can get refunds on flights, etc or your travel insurance?


  • #6169
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Humberto Salazar wrote: »
    But has more potential interactions in people on other meds than paracetamol.

    I vary … And ALWAYS speak with a pharmacist, not someone here, please . I am on other meds so took care.


  • #6170
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Simon Coveney has confirmed this just now on Morning Ireland on RTE Radio 1.

    We’re in delay phase now?


  • #6171
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,336 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Is there an argument to put anyone crossing our borders into isolation for 5 days and everyone on the island also isolates for 5 days, anyone or anyone in contact with somebody who then has it then goes into further isolation. We'd have a handle on this and controlled the spread within 10 days. We're a little island, I think it would be a drastic but sensible approach but spare us a lot of pain down the road.

    Where will you hold them in isolation? Thousands land here on planes every day. Would also require us to test everyone on the island which is impossible. I think you need a reality check. The government thinks 50 - 60% of the population could get infected. With mortality rate of somewhere between 1% to 3.5% that’s anything from around 20,000 to 80,000 dead here alone and many many more ill. This will overwhelm the health services completely so they will only be able to focus on those who they know they can save.


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  • #6172
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Tootsie_1 wrote: »
    Can’t be taken under 16 years old and can’t be taken with ibuprofen also highly dangerous if someone is already on blood thinners ... I’d stick with paracetamol myself.

    I have been safely combining aspirin with ibuprofen for many years, Paracetamol has no effect.

    Please; ask your GP or pharmacy as I did rather than what is per se medical advice here?


  • #6173
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0310/1121280-coveney-covid-19/
    Still only advisory...Coveney has upgraded the advice to not travel to the whole of Italy
    Says Varadkar will be raising flights & EU co-ordinated responses at EU meeting today

    This is promising. He seemed to signal that we need an EU wide ban otherwise it won't work. Start with Italy FFS. It's not permanent, it's responsible. By the actions of eu governments two things are clear in their opinion. This cannot be stopped and no point halting flights.

    Well I agree on the first point but the second point is 100% necessary to prevent the health system being overwhelmed.

    Seriously how the f*ck does this make sense.

    "Don't travel to Italy"
    "Ireland inc still open for the craic."

    Time to get real. We are facing a war like situation. Listen to the life and death decisions that will be made for you if this gets out of hand. Read it but beware it's not easy.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/ffs5ng/coronavirus_doctor_in_bergamo_its_like_a_war_we/

    Doctor in hospital in Italy

    What do you think of the latest government measures?
    « "Maybe they're a bit generic. The concept of closing the virus in certain areas is correct, but it arrives at least a week late. What really matters is another thing. "
    Which is?
    "Stay home. Stay home. I don't get tired of repeating it. I see too many people on the street. The best answer to this virus is not to go around. You don't imagine what's going on in here. Stay home. "


  • #6174
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Funeral directors have been advised that any person who dies of coronavirus should be immediately cremated or buried without a funeral service

    https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/coronavirus-victims-to-be-immediately-buried-without-funeral-service-39031428.html

    I believe this is the strongest message yet and the one which will resonate the most.


  • #6175
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    sudzs wrote: »
    And wouldn't ibuprofen or aspirin be the better otc painkillers as the anti inflammatory properties should help with the lung inflammation??

    And would a suppressant cough medicine, rather than an expectorant be best too?? :confused:

    I know this is against boards.ie rules about drugs/medicine

    Paracetamol and ibuprofen contain different active ingredients. You can take the two together and not cause overdose. Just follow the instructions on the back of the package.


  • #6176
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,013 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    MadYaker wrote: »
    Where will you hold them in isolation? Thousands land here on planes every day. Would also require us to test everyone on the island which is impossible. I think you need a reality check. The government thinks 50 - 60% of the population could get infected. With mortality rate of somewhere between 1% to 3.5% that’s anything from around 20,000 to 80,000 dead here alone and many many more ill. This will overwhelm the health services completely so they will only be able to focus on those who they know they can save.

    Whats this again. Its Ireland. They will focus on those who can afford it.


  • #6177
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Apologies if this was posted already but I just saw it on Facebook. Really, really shít if true.

    "I work in a busyhair salon in cork and on friday after staff in cuh were sent home to self isolate we had a NURSE (who was sent home to self isolate)in getting her hair done, sitting in the salon for a few hours in my opinion putting others at risk, some who are pregnant. She mentioned it at the end of her hair treatment…"



    https://www.facebook.com/Deshocks/posts/3036963146334587?hc_location=ufi&comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyMzUxOTc1OTE0OTAzNzMwXzIzNjE0NzYyNDA2MjAzNjQ%3D


  • #6178
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    We’re in delay phase now?

    According to what Coveney said on Morning Ireland yes we are. He also said that a Government announcement re. mass gatherings of people for sports events, concerts, social functions etc. is expected possibly as soon as today or certainly within the next few days.


  • #6179
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,418 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    They have pushed Coveney out front and center.


  • #6180
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Keyzer wrote: »
    200K people are expected to attend Cheltenham - utter stupidity.

    People travelling in and out each day. Thousands of people shoulder to shoulder. Millions of £s in cash exchanging hands over each day. Drunken degenerates getting tanked and not thinking about hygiene.

    Sure what can go wrong. Irish people that travel should be spending 2 weeks in quarantine on their return.


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  • #6181
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    I think isolation is great but I wouldn't get complacent.

    "In 1918, eleven people were killed by the Spanish flu and a graveyard was established in Longyear City."

    "The decision to disallow burials came in 1950, when it was discovered that the bodies of residents who had died as a result of the 1918 flu pandemic had not begun to decompose. Today, scientists fear that the corpses, having been preserved by the permafrost in which they were buried, may still contain live strains of that same virus that killed 5% of the world's population in the 20th century."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longyearbyen

    What a bizarre post! I still cannot see the connection between someone like me living in chosen isolation for various reasons and your post! :confused::confused::confused:

    We hermits have been living apart for centuries and tend to live into advanced old age. Read the hermitary.com web site.

    Solitude is a blessing, whatever the reason


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