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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    screamer wrote: »
    And if it does he contacts them and they’ll move to the next phase. We’re going to have to get used to this, with the majority of people having mild symptoms, like any treatment, the resources will be conserved for those most in need or unless/ until a mild case progresses. I’m sorry to say ( not aimed at your friend) but everyone won’t be able to be saved either.

    There seems to be a complete inability to understand this. This and the mortality figure being reported as fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Volthar wrote: »
    Ibuprofen is also more dangerous for kidneys.

    Use sparingly like all meds. I use it once or very occasionally twice a day , for years, and no damage; paracetamol does not work as well and has dangers. But so do all drugs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    screamer wrote: »
    And if it does he contacts them and they’ll move to the next phase. We’re going to have to get used to this, with the majority of people having mild symptoms, like any treatment, the resources will be conserved for those most in need or unless/ until a mild case progresses. I’m sorry to say ( not aimed at your friend) but everyone won’t be able to be saved either.

    Yeah I suppose you’re right in fairness. I just thought we’d be trying to confirm every case and trace people he could have spread it to but I guess that’s just not feasible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,225 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    YFlyer wrote: »
    The test will only verify if he caught the coronavirus or not. It won't heal him. If sick or feeling bad, self isolate and sleep it off.

    It would allow his close contacts to know that they are also at risk and reduce the risk of them infecting others. Not testing him puts others at risk

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Volthar


    Frynge wrote: »
    This is absolutely disgraceful. That much toilet paper and you have not made a fort.

    With widespread bog roll shortages this video may save someone's hide:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKsFUiS8QPM


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,238 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    So I gather there's going to be a rush on paracetamol etc soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Use sparingly like all meds. I use it once or very occasionally twice a day , for years, and no damage; paracetamol does not work as well and has dangers. But so do all drugs.




    Paracetamol has an extremely narrow therapeutic range and anything above it is toxic to humans.its a good drug at what it’s designed for but needs to be treated with respect like all medications


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    Some awful stories emerging from Italy regarding hospitals, priority towards younger virus patients but other emergencies being pushed out, like strokes etc. Not enough tubing and oxygen etc for severe cases, medical staff watching helplessly as people die of this. In the west there's no way we'll be able to do a China, a complete no movement quarantine for a month at least, their system is predicated towards obedience, it a communist state after all. Our free movement, democracy will work against us for once.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭sjb25




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    So I gather there's going to be a rush on paracetamol etc soon.

    Havednt you been stockpiling it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    So I gather there's going to be a rush on paracetamol etc soon.




    None to be got in Tesco yesterday.people are gone fcukin ape.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    t’s about your health system grinding to a halt if you allow this to spread freely. And that’s a very simple thing you cannot allow at any cost. Therefore we have to fight it. Whatever the economic cost.

    Indeed.

    And I would have too look it up again, but I heard on a finance related TV programme that research exists (not covid 19 related, from a few years ago) saying that if the severity of the commun flu was 4 to 5 times higher, the long term economic cost of early strong containment measures would be lower than the long term economic cost of not doing containment and having to deal with sick people.

    So even if someone thought the economy is the top priority ahead of public health matters, according to that research containment still makes sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,871 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    YFlyer wrote: »
    The test will only verify if he caught the coronavirus or not. It won't heal him. If sick or feeling bad, self isolate and sleep it off.

    This isn't really the point though. He's a potential carrier and has been going around for 10 days potentially infecting others. That's why we need the test results. Self-isolation without test is l well and good if you've just arrived from Italy, not so much if you've been back for weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭1641


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    We underestimate old folks sometimes - they've lived through a lot of scary stuff in their time, and most of us can testify that despite being more vulnerable they tend to be less anxiety-ridden about health threats like this current one. I think when you get to a certain age you develop a certain 'whatever will be, will be' attitude. It's perfectly understandable - when you reach old age any number of things can take you, you know? Not to be blunt about it.


    Not the Bogeyman again - agh!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    sjb25 wrote: »

    I'm not sure sky news are reliable. They can't even work out percentages correctly, reporting what should be 5% as 20% death rate. They had one job!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,238 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    None to be got in Tesco yesterday.people are gone fcukin ape.

    Mental.

    I know what do I know. I am only some randomer on the internet but from reading things I think the rush of buying supplies has begun. It's just not at levels yet where you see 100s of people outside a Lidl.

    Time to stock pile me thinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    I'm not sure sky news are reliable. They can't even work out percentages correctly, reporting what should be 5% as 20% death rate. They had one job!

    It's not sky news saying it, they literally have a senior health official saying it in an interview


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,002 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    So I gather there's going to be a rush on paracetamol etc soon.

    Be smart, get aspirin, it's a vastly superior drug all round anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭McGiver


    It's flourishing in every country. It had already flourished before they knew it existed.
    Bullshíte. It originated in China. Due to high population density, and their culinary habits. This is an established fact. All other countries got it from China directly or indirectly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Mental.

    I know what do I know. I am only some randomer on the internet but from reading things I think the rush of buying supplies has begun. It's just not at levels yet where you see 100s of people outside a Lidl.

    Time to stock pile me thinks.




    I’m stockpiling nothing.boll1x to that.carry on as normal here and work around the apeism displayed by sheep following other sheep


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Tootsie_1


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Be smart, get aspirin, it's a vastly superior drug all round anyway.

    Can’t be taken under 16 years old and can’t be taken with ibuprofen also highly dangerous if someone is already on blood thinners ... I’d stick with paracetamol myself.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Anyone know how many tests Ireland are carrying out daily ?

    If we are only testing a small number, it stands to logic that there'll only be a small number of confirmed cases .

    The big worry for me is that we are not testing or detecting enough. And this explodes with many cases and fatalities over a short space of time

    They’re only giving out the number for tests carried out within a week. Numbers out tonight for week ending Monday 9th March. All we can do is average out that number over a 7 day week to get an idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,999 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    I’m stockpiling nothing.boll1x to that.carry on as normal here and work around the apeism displayed by sheep following other sheep

    are you sure your not the wolly one? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    gozunda wrote: »
    True. Not in reply to the above but for the mob screaming blue murder on this thread - bear in mind that according to the Chinese authorities - the first person treated for the Corona virus in Wuhan was was an elderly man who suffered from Alzheimer's disease and had no connection with the wet market whatsoever

    The elderly man lived four or five buses from the seafood market, and because he was sick he basically didn't go out,”

    Three other people developed symptoms in the following days – two of whom had no exposure to the market.

    Research has also cast doubt on whether either Bats or Pangolins were the initial vector for the disease

    And if we want to lynch someone for causing a disease due to their "disgusting habits" then perhaps we should start with the last Ebola outbreak - which has been definitely linked with a two-year-old boy called Emile Ouamouno from Guinea - who is believed to have become infected whilst playing in a hollow tree housing a colony of bats. Scientists studying the outbreak made the connection on an expedition to the boy's village.

    So ye can put down the put down the pitchforks and stop the screaming.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00548-w

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-30632453

    In fairness the live wet markets in China and a few other countries are *horrendously* cruel to animals and have zero hygiene or disease control standards. Wild and domestic animals stacked in cages one on top of the other in close proximity, butchered and prepared in the market - they are extremely cruel and I don’t want to go into much more detail as posters will find it disturbing. I’ve seen footage and it it’s hard to comprehend how cruel they are without seeing them. Zero animal welfare.

    The trade of wildlife for meat originated when people were in extreme poverty. It is a minority who consume it but hopefully this outbreak will mean tougher legislation. The impact on the economy and other people’s health is far greater than SARS or Ebola so I’m new legislation will be drafted to prohibit these types of markets and food trade


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,026 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Funeral directors have been advised that any person who dies of coronavirus should be immediately cremated or buried without a funeral service

    https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/coronavirus-victims-to-be-immediately-buried-without-funeral-service-39031428.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    I’ve a friend who returned from Italy a week and a half ago and has started showing symptoms. He called the hse and they just told him to self isolate for 2 weeks and that he won’t be getting tested unless his symptoms get more severe.
    I wouldn’t be best friends with him or anything but I don’t think he’d lie about this.
    This surely cannot be the stance of the hse? He’s symptomatic and returned from an infected region, he should be tested as a priority!

    Ireland want to slow down the spread of the virus to prevent economic collapse. The HSE have decided that the best way to achieve this is to not test many people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    So I gather there's going to be a rush on paracetamol etc soon.

    Soon!!! Think your a bit late there. Thank god people are only able to get 1 box a visit. A friend of mine and her husband were going separately into a number of shops to get it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Be smart, get aspirin, it's a vastly superior drug all round anyway.

    But has more potential interactions in people on other meds than paracetamol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    tom1ie wrote: »
    are you sure your not the wolly one? :pac:



    It’s wooly tommo and no I’m not the sheep.
    I’m firmly seated in the will not panic section.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,238 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I’m stockpiling nothing.boll1x to that.carry on as normal here and work around the apeism displayed by sheep following other sheep

    I get what your saying...
    Don't get sucked up into things. On the other hand tho this could be described as needing a condom :pac:
    As in its best to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

    No one knows what things are gonna be like on a month. Because if anyone does please tell me next week's lotto numbers lol.


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