Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

Naggdefy · 09-03-2020 08:26PM

Raconteuse wrote: »

Bound to have been asked but these threads are monsters: any idea why so high specifically in Northern Italy? Is it a trade relationship with Wuhan or something like that?

Spain, France and Germany are rising at the same rate as Italy 10 days ago.

amadangomor · 09-03-2020 08:26PM

Mr.S wrote: »

What are the health conditions of the confirmed cases in ROI?

Been reported that a new case from the weekend - a woman from the East has an underlying condition and is very ill

- it is on the RTE website

dmc17 · 09-03-2020 08:26PM

Mr.S wrote: »

What are the health conditions of the confirmed cases in ROI?

The RTE article from yesterday mentioned somebody seriously ill

The new cases in the Republic involve a male in a hospital in the south of the country and a female in the east of the country, who has an underlying illness and is seriously ill.

Hodors Appletart · 09-03-2020 08:26PM

banie01 wrote: »

Far from important, would you rather I'd used a different word than "privy" maybe?

It fits how I came by the info, what would you rather I'd said?

tell us how you "came by it" or let me guess

"you can't say"

jog on walter

Hodors Appletart · 09-03-2020 08:27PM

fritzelly wrote: »

36

this implies no more cases in the north

is that right?

ZX7R · 09-03-2020 08:27PM

froog wrote: »

slightly worrying that the global death rate of closed cases has actually risen for the first time. hopefully just an anomaly.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

That is down to the numbers in Italy.
Sadly they will end up with a high tally do to the age of the population in the affected region.

PopePalpatine · 09-03-2020 08:27PM

TimeToShine wrote: »

I find it virtually impossible to believe the same virus that has infected thousands in the space of a couple of days in Italy and Spain has racked up less than ten here. Impossible.

...perhaps the archives are incomplete.

Cuckoo7 · 09-03-2020 08:27PM

Raconteuse wrote: »

Bound to have been asked but these threads are monsters: any idea why so high specifically in Northern Italy? Is it a trade relationship with Wuhan or something like that?

That’s where the fashion industry is?
A lot of Chinese working there in factories and such.

is_that_so · 09-03-2020 08:27PM

expectationlost wrote: »

a couple of them at least in serious condition as per radio this morning.

Yeah the man from Cork and the lady in the east.

Funsterdelux · 09-03-2020 08:27PM

From what they are saying in the press briefing there could be something of an issue with an African country?

is_that_so · 09-03-2020 08:28PM

ZX7R wrote: »

That is down to the numbers in Italy.
Sadly they will end up with a high tally do to the age of the population in the affected region.

23% over 65 in Lombardy.

4068ac1elhodqr · 09-03-2020 08:28PM

NIMAN wrote: »

When all the panic is over and we look back on this in say a years time, will be interesting to see how the no of deaths compares to the season flu, cancer, car crashes, diabetes etc.

There will be a 'recovery' period during July/August allowing some widespread re-normalisation.

Winter in Nov+ may hold some risks, until vax early Spring 21.
Would not take v1 of a rushed vax, won't need it anyway (personally).
If you're over 60, take the vax as soon as it's out.

Sir Oxman · 09-03-2020 08:28PM

Cw85 wrote: »

3 new cases, seems to be fairly well contained here, nowhere near the number of most EU countries and the UK. Crises averted I think.

UK is at 4.7 per million people
Ireland is at 4.3 per million

Spanish Eyes · 09-03-2020 08:28PM

Raconteuse wrote: »

Bound to have been asked but these threads are monsters: any idea why so high specifically in Northern Italy? Is it a trade relationship with Wuhan or something like that?

I read somewhere so take it with caution that Milan is the so called "centre of fashion". It appears to be run by Chinese, who import a lot of workers to work in the industry on low wages and conditions.

They are sent back and forth for visa reasons or something.

But no proof, and nothing in MSM but sounds like there could be something behind it too.

Tomrota · 09-03-2020 08:28PM

gabeeg wrote: »

The reason why it's only 3 cases is probably down to the HSE's strict testing criteria

If you ring them because you have all the symptoms, they won't test you unless you've been to one of the following areas recently:

China
Hong Kong
Iran
the following regions in Italy - Lombardy, Veneto, Emilia-Romagna and Piedmont
Japan
Singapore
Republic of Korea (South Korea)

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/affectedareas/

That list is hopelessly out of date. We're in big trouble.

True. I know a girl who just got back from Italy and has a very bad cough and fever but since she wasn’t in those areas listed, HSE refused to test her. I’ve heard similar stories from other people.

fritzelly · 09-03-2020 08:29PM

Hodors Appletart wrote: »

this implies no more cases in the north

is that right?

Nothing new today as yet

Naggdefy · 09-03-2020 08:29PM

Raconteuse wrote: »

It's like: "he's an Irish public servant, therefore dodgy".

No 'it's like' I don't trust him. He's a spin merchant sent out to meet the media.

I didn't trust the two FF TDs, Dempsey was one, who said the IMF weren't coming in back in 2010.

I get that feeling from his demeanour and tone.

dublin99 · 09-03-2020 08:29PM

This is extremely worrying.

The most significant point is that they are NOT traceable ie community acquired.

In other words, for every one that is tested and confirmed there will be a lot more spreaders in the community, some with few or no symptoms (yet).

In places where the virus has been been contained, almost each confirmed case is traced ie imported or related to an already identified case (family, colleague or have been to the same venue). Everyone else who is a close contact is then tested or quarantined or put under self isolation. In Hong Kong there are whole apartment blocks and holiday camps used for quarantine of those defined as close contacts or have returned from the Diamond Princess or on the Wuhan repatriation flights.

The transparency is also much higher. The area and housing estate/office building of work of each confirmed case is disclosed, along with details of where they have been (gym, restaurants, flight no. etc) in the last few days before confinement so other people can take extra care and realise they could have been in contact through lift buttons or door handles etc.

YFlyer · 09-03-2020 08:29PM

I heard from someone working at University Hospital Limerick. If there are not enough intensive care units, particularly oxygen facilities. Many of the 20% that need hospitalization could die.

Raconteuse · 09-03-2020 08:29PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I read somewhere so take it with caution that Milan is the so called "centre of fashion". It appears to be run by Chinese, who import a lot of workers to work in the industry on low wages and conditions.

They are sent back and forth for visa reasons or something.

But no proof, and nothing in MSM but sounds like there could be something behind it too.

Read something like that too about textiles being shipped from Wuhan to Milan.

jarvis · 09-03-2020 08:30PM

D’ya know what? I actually like Dr Tony Holohan. There I said it.

Particularly tonight he has boosted my confidence in him. Maybe it’s the lowish escalation so far and the €3 billion package. He seems very assured and maybe we aren’t as hopeless at this as we assume we are.

Hector Savage · 09-03-2020 08:30PM

https://twitter.com/michelle1jones_/status/1237031596982702083?s=21

cnocbui · 09-03-2020 08:30PM

Raconteuse wrote: »

Bound to have been asked but these threads are monsters: any idea why so high specifically in Northern Italy? Is it a trade relationship with Wuhan or something like that?

I have seen suggestions that it was business links with China, with some suggestion of illegal immigrants under the mafia thumb working in garment factories in northern Italy.

Tomato1 · 09-03-2020 08:30PM

Some reading for you if anybody is interested.
Nothing special, just one of the several guidelines and documents issued to NAS who are doing the bulk of the testing currently.

ElBastardo1 · 09-03-2020 08:31PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

ITALY 366 DEAD

575400 people died of Swine flu!
I really hope i'm wrong, I'm no expert and most of the people in this thread aren't either.

banie01 · 09-03-2020 08:31PM

Hodors Appletart wrote: »

tell us how you "came by it" or let me guess

"you can't say"

jog on walter

Well if I'd told you how I came by it, then I would no longer be "privy" would I?,
As I said in the earlier post.
Glad to see the increase was lower than I was led to expect let's hope that the growth is contained.

As for your Walter dig...
Far from it, just have quite a wide circle of friends and acquaintances, many of whom have far more knowledge of current situation in hospitals than I do, or indeed could.

Genghis · 09-03-2020 08:31PM

Tomrota wrote: »

True. I know a girl who just got back from Italy and has a very bad cough and fever but since she wasn’t in those areas listed, HSE refused to test her. I’ve heard similar stories from other people.

Was she advised to self isolate?

edit_me · 09-03-2020 08:31PM

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Lad in my office sitting there coughing and sneezing all day - why the fck can't these people just stay at home?

Tell this to landlord or a bank......

juno10353 · 09-03-2020 08:31PM

https://time.com/5798168/coronavirus-mortality-rate/

Sir Oxman · 09-03-2020 08:31PM

Immediate 14 days isolation for anyone coming into Israel
"Interior Minister Aryeh Deri said the measure would be effective immediately for all Israelis returning to the country.
It would apply to foreign citizens from Thursday
The measure means some 300,000 citizens in a country of around nine million would need to self-isolate, Israeli media report."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51809818

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP