Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

mloc123 · 09-03-2020 06:59PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

does it make you smile?

No.. silly question

BLIZZARD7 · 09-03-2020 06:59PM

5 dead in UK now

Funsterdelux · 09-03-2020 07:00PM

NIMAN wrote: »

Is it time masses were cancelled?

That would be an eccumenical matter.

bekker · 09-03-2020 07:00PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

His stat was also wrong.

It's 5.79%.

Based on Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by Johns Hopkins CSSE
17:55
South Korea
Deaths 53
Recovered 118
Total resolved 171
Deaths as a % of resolved 31%
That is only hard data available, all else is speculation. SK may be doing spectacularly well but not on available data, total cases is only relevant in accessing numbers tested v confirmed, or accessing rate of spread.

Trigger Happy · 09-03-2020 07:00PM

dan786 wrote: »

A fifth person in the UK has died after testing positive for coronavirus, NHS England says.

Second today.

That's the fourth...the woman in Wolverhampton. Dont think it's the fifth.

joe40 · 09-03-2020 07:01PM

ITman88 wrote: »

Exactly, healthy people don’t need to stockpile.
The vulnerable need every chance and they have genuine need to stockpile, but it’s insane to think healthy people have being stockpiling goods that may be required elsewhere.

Some live by the mantra "when there is a lot take plenty, when there is a little take it all"

Funsterdelux · 09-03-2020 07:01PM

sdanseo wrote: »

This is reassuring. Mild cases creeping ever higher. Was 80% at one point.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Look at Iran's figures, theyre all mild!

Mic 1972 · 09-03-2020 07:01PM

sdanseo wrote: »

This is reassuring. Mild cases creeping ever higher. Was 80% at one point.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I'm more worried about the remaining 13% in critical conditions when the Health System reaches full capacity

New Home · 09-03-2020 07:01PM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Northern Italy.

No, ITALY. Just because the HSE say "Stay out of Northern Italy" doesn't mean that there are only a handful of provinces that haven't been affected, and in quite a few cases the source of the contagion still hasn't been established.

Drumpot · 09-03-2020 07:01PM

jill_valentine wrote: »

Feels like something's finally being done today, which is good. Initiative is lost, but at least it feels like somebody woke up.

That’s how I feel. They are slowly making it easier for people to self isolate if needed. 3 billion is massive for a country our size to be putting on the table this early. Credit where it’s due, they do appear to be acting quicker then Italy.

cnocbui · 09-03-2020 07:02PM

Nonoperational wrote: »

No it absolutely does not. You continue to assume every infected person in the world has been tested and found. There are likely many many people with mild symptoms who recover without ever being tested.

You may be right, but Aylward of the WHO said otherwise:

Bruce Aylward, who led an international mission to China to learn about the virus and China’s response, said the specialists did not see evidence that a large number of mild cases of the novel disease called Covid-19 are evading detection.

“So I know everybody’s been out there saying, ‘Whoa, this thing is spreading everywhere and we just can’t see it, tip of the iceberg.’ But the data that we do have don’t support that,” Aylward said

https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/25/new-data-from-china-buttress-fears-about-high-coronavirus-fatality-rate-who-expert-says/

I tend to agree with you, though, which means China successfully pulled the wool over the WHO's eyes and fed them BS numbers, which I think they are possibly still doing, just as they did in the boost phase with deaths vs new cases daily calculating to a perfect 1.2 for R0 every single day without variation.

Achasanai · 09-03-2020 07:02PM

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

So the government is taking some reasonable steps here. I wonder whether the crowd saying Leo is weak, is a muppet, shouldn't be let back into the country etc, will be in to withdraw their posts before or after armageddon?

Just because the government is taking 'some reasonable steps' now doesn't mean the previous criticism wasn't warranted.

Ludo · 09-03-2020 07:02PM

Trigger Happy wrote: »

That's the fourth...the woman in Wolverhampton. Dont think it's the fifth.

It is a fifth alright.

Rob A. Bank · 09-03-2020 07:03PM

NIMAN wrote: »

Is it time masses were cancelled?

They might put them online.... it is being done in Italy.

Over 500 People Exposed to D.C. Priest With Coronavirus

A priest in Washington, D.C., who reportedly gave communion and shook hands with more than 500 people at a church has tested positive for the novel coronavirus.

Cilldara_2000 · 09-03-2020 07:03PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Your post makes no sense.
1) preppers stocked up months ago. They are not the people emptying the shelves now.

2) Those worried parents are worried for a reason, the virus is here now and they are trying to protect their immunosuppressed kids. If they had been listening to the preppers they would not have to panic buy now.

3) It is the people who have been trying to ostrich this situation. Who saw what was happening in China and said it wouldn't happen here. Who couldn't look at
Another country/continent and realise that was likely going to happen here. The people who scoffed, ridiculed and policed the people trying to warn and prepare for the last 6 weeks.

Those are the people who should be ashamed.

This assumes that stressed out parents of sick children have time and money to be going around buying a pile of stuff.

Necro · 09-03-2020 07:04PM

amadangomor wrote:

I have a chest infection and took today off but was planning on going back in tomorrow. Would I be entitled to this now or will have to wait until the legislation has passed etc. ie. will it be retrospective? (Probably too early to ask this but it is relevant to my decisions now)

Well firstly, you're only looking at a day MAX if this is retrospective (and it won't be)

Illness Benefit pays for 6 days so you would only get 50.83 for the day.

Secondly, it hasn't been signed into law yet so there's still 'currently' no entitlement as it does not (yet) pay for the first 6 days of an illness.

Trigger Happy · 09-03-2020 07:04PM

Ludo wrote: »

It is a fifth alright.

You are right, just saw it on sky. Grim.

rayfitzharris · 09-03-2020 07:05PM

Nonoperational wrote: »

No it absolutely does not. You continue to assume every infected person in the world has been tested and found. There are likely many many people with mild symptoms who recover without ever being tested.

Bruce Aylward spoke about this "tip of the iceberg" fallacy during a live press conference. He said the Chinese carried out extensive testing to try to find out if there were a lot of unreported cases, unfortunately that was not the case, they found no significant unreported cases.

Maybe Italy/europe is different but it's unlikely.
We are following the same exponential growth without takeing any action to try and reduce the effective R0 to below 1 (contained).

We had all the warning needed from China and Iran and even Italy, and we failed to use that time to try and contain the spread.

More drastic proactive measures will be needed now and unfortunately there will be unnecessary deaths on authorities hands.

First it was;
"We have a very low chance of the virus spreading here" then
"It will only be a few cases"
"It will be mild, just like a flu"
"The chances of catching it are still low"
"Local authorities should not act unilaterally"
To
"Potentially 1.9mil infected"
"It will mostly affect the old and compromised"

As if they are not as important FFS.

SeaBreezes · 09-03-2020 07:06PM

Eliana Uptight Caterpillar wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/kr3at/status/1236792832247160844

Video within twitter link

At the risk of being told to stock up on tin foil, this is what we're in for in two weeks time.

That's heartbreaking. My son has epilepsy. I hadn't realised that made him an at risk category. Frightening.

B.A._Baracus · 09-03-2020 07:07PM

I'm gonna be honest. This sh*t is getting real.
Yes yes, only a 4% mortality rate. But man its time to start stocking up.

Feels like this is getting worse and worse.

paleoperson · 09-03-2020 07:07PM

Achasanai wrote: »

Just because the government is taking 'some reasonable steps' now doesn't mean the previous criticism wasn't warranted.

The team lost every game when he became manager, but shur he took some reasonable steps to try to improve performances - take back all your criticism.

09-03-2020 07:07PM

From the UK press conference they are clearly expecting things to get much worse and to go on for some time. Depending on the daily numbers, they are hoping to delay introducing the more severe public restrictions for one or two weeks (and more for some). They indicate that the height of the restrictions will have widespread impact. If they introduce them too soon it would be very difficult to publically sustain them. So best to do it gradually and wait until they have most impact.

They suggest that introducing bans on large public gatherings now would have only marginal impact on virus spread but would affect unduly many people for little gain. This will change as the virus becomes more widespread in the community. This presented this as unavoidable.

At the moment by far the most people presenting with coughing, sneezing, sore throats, etc are diagnosed with colds, etc. But this will change. As the number of Covids escalates they will be telling all people with such symptoms to self-isolate for at least a week (presumbly without any testing, although I didn't hear them say this). They are hoping to spread the peak of the spread as far as possible out towards the summer.

Seemed to avoid questions about capacity of hospitals to cope with numbers at the peak of spread.

Mic 1972 · 09-03-2020 07:07PM

cnocbui wrote: »

You may be right, but Aylward of the WHO said otherwise:

https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/25/new-data-from-china-buttress-fears-about-high-coronavirus-fatality-rate-who-expert-says/

Yep, it's been reported by other doctors that undetected cases are a general assumption but in reality people with symptoms tend to be detected after a while
Somebody posted a link to a Canadian doctor a few days ago who also confirmed this

megatron989 · 09-03-2020 07:07PM

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

This assumes that stressed out parents of sick children have time and money to be going around buying a pile of stuff.

But they suddenly do now? Sorry but many here saw this coming and even if we didn't have the means we still went out in early January (in my case) and started adding to our supplies. My n99's arrived in January, I restocked as much of my long term foodstuffs as I could afford each shopping trip.
Many ridiculed people for taking these actions. They were warned. The writing was on the wall even then. Still many won't take heed. They invite disaster.

Rob A. Bank · 09-03-2020 07:08PM

cnocbui wrote: »

You may be right, but Aylward of the WHO said otherwise:

https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/25/new-data-from-china-buttress-fears-about-high-coronavirus-fatality-rate-who-expert-says/

I tend to agree with you, though, which means China successfully pulled the wool over the WHO's eyes and fed them BS numbers, which I think they are possibly still doing, just as they did in the boost phase with deaths vs new cases daily calculating to a perfect 1.2 for R0 every single day without variation.

The team of the world's leading Epidemiologists and Virologists who went to China would be very hard to fool... perhaps the conspiracy forum would be a better place for your posts.

Tippex · 09-03-2020 07:08PM

Eliana Uptight Caterpillar wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/kr3at/status/1236792832247160844

Video within twitter link

At the risk of being told to stock up on tin foil, this is what we're in for in two weeks time.

That is absolutely heartbreaking to read. I'm sure there are many families around the globe in a similar situation.

Moomoomacshoe · 09-03-2020 07:09PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I was and others were accused of scaremongering.
Not believing the HSE false narrative we were accused of being conspiracy nuts.

Here we go.

Accused of same. "Stockpiling"..knew this would happen (don't blame people considering we have no masks and people want to avoid crowds) tried to warn others and did extra shops weeks ago..ive immunocompromised people to think of here.

If the country is proavctive not reactive we would have some chance. People off sick now with flu symptoms are quizzed have they been to an isolated area etc.
It's beyond that, should be self isolation if flu symptoms -the End. We know it's gone communiyy based.
Hoping this is the next step, self isolation regardless of where you've been. It's possible I've missed this.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 09-03-2020 07:10PM

juno10353 wrote: »

https://inmo.ie/Trolley_Ward_Watch

Good news, the amount of patients waiting for beds has dropped

There’s nothing like the threat of catching a serious illness to get people out of hospitals.

2xj3hplqgsbkym · 09-03-2020 07:10PM

Sorry if already asked / answered but when will today’s figures be released?

igCorcaigh · 09-03-2020 07:10PM

Melania Bitter Visibility wrote: »

Sorry if already asked / answered but when will today’s figures be released?

7pm

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP