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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Jeremiah25


    Anyone tell me if opression needs to be suffered qua member or not? Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭CiaranS93


    Thinking about taking a case against the law society for making me pass subjects I've passed in College already, who's with me? 😂


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 coalition


    Jeremiah25 wrote: »
    Anyone tell me if opression needs to be suffered qua member or not? Thanks!

    Oppression under s. 212 (1) (a) must be suffered by a member but can be suffered in that member’s capacity as director

    Disregard of interests under s. 212 (1) (b) must be suffered by a member in their capacity as member

    I think!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 Lawgrad101


    What are the topics people are banking on for Contract?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭mydogwentroof


    What's the Contract Law pass rate?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Having exams two days in a row just reminded me that I actually had 2 exams on the same day in final year of college! No idea how I got through that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭jewels652


    Oct 19 paper wasn't too fun but generally it's pretty predictable and the pass rates haven't fallen below 70% since Oct 13 as far as I know. I don't really understand EU law completely and it was not my ideal paper but got 61, know the main areas and look at some past papers and you'll be grand.

    I feel Eu is more predictable like you can get away with covering 8 topics and the questions are clear and easily to understand. Unlike constitutional where you have to cover the bones of 17 to 25 topics and it is very difficult to identify the questions. The Eu lecturer is not getting out of his way to catch us unlike the other lecturer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 EAL2019


    When discussing terms, I've noticed that some manuals/cases talk about distinguishing between "conditions and warranties" and some talk about distinguishing between "warranties and mere representations".


    Am I right in saying that conditions, warranties and mere representations are three different things?


    Its just that sometimes they seem to be used interchangeably and its confusing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭ahhhhhFE1s


    EAL2019 wrote: »
    When discussing terms, I've noticed that some manuals/cases talk about distinguishing between "conditions and warranties" and some talk about distinguishing between "warranties and mere representations".


    Am I right in saying that conditions, warranties and mere representations are three different things?


    Its just that sometimes they seem to be used interchangeably and its confusing

    Ya I've them as three separate things..
     Conditions - are terms that are deemed sufficiently important enough grant party right of election, can be used either to end/affirm a contract or sue for damages if breached.
     Warranties – are less important terms that entitle a party to sue for damages if breached.
     Innominate terms – are unclassified terms which are only labelled when consequences of their breach become known.
     Mere Representations - statements designed to induce parties into the contract are not a binding term, false statements give rise to action in misrepresentation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭godfather2


    Lawgrad101 wrote: »
    What are the topics people are banking on for Contract?

    I heard bankers didn't appear last year so trying to cover a broad array.

    Offer, acceptance and consideration.
    Penalty, exclusion and liquidated damages.
    Privity, skeleton level.
    Discharge from contractual obligations.
    Termination of contract
    Contract interp
    Implied terms
    Consumer protection
    Mistake/ misrepresentation
    Illegality.
    Estoppel.
    Final three as crossed over with equity.

    Basically working through last four exam papers and hoping for miracles.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭bobbyness


    EAL2019 wrote: »
    When discussing terms, I've noticed that some manuals/cases talk about distinguishing between "conditions and warranties" and some talk about distinguishing between "warranties and mere representations".


    Am I right in saying that conditions, warranties and mere representations are three different things?


    Its just that sometimes they seem to be used interchangeably and its confusing

    Think you're mixing up s12/13 etc sale by description. Those contain conditions and warranties.

    Mere representation is when someone says something in connection with a contract, which induces the other into the contract. Is it a warranty = IE Binding, or just a mere representation (sales puff) = Not binding

    Example - Carey v Independent Newspaper - It was important to her, and stated as a reason for her entering her new contract employment, she could come in later in the morning as she had to organise her children before work.

    Question of whether warranty or mere representation - As she had stated it was important, had relied on it and had induced her into contract = Court held warranty and binding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 EAL2019


    ahhhhhFE1s wrote: »
    Ya I've them as three separate things..
     Conditions - are terms that are deemed sufficiently important enough grant party right of election, can be used either to end/affirm a contract or sue for damages if breached.
     Warranties – are less important terms that entitle a party to sue for damages if breached.
     Innominate terms – are unclassified terms which are only labelled when consequences of their breach become known.
     Mere Representations - statements designed to induce parties into the contract are not a binding term, false statements give rise to action in misrepresentation.


    That really clarifies things, thank you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭ihatethesea


    Lawgrad101 wrote: »
    What are the topics people are banking on for Contract?

    Offer/Acceptance
    Consideration
    Consumer Protection
    Terms/Exemption Clauses
    Remedies
    Discharge
    Mistake/Misrep

    I feel like its the bare minimum but i don't have time to do more!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭ahhhhhFE1s


    Offer/Acceptance
    Consideration
    Consumer Protection
    Terms/Exemption Clauses
    Remedies
    Discharge
    Mistake/Misrep

    I feel like its the bare minimum but i don't have time to do more!

    Ya I've these and undue influence which i doubt will come up.. Could be wrong but think you'd be covered most of the last few papers with this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 EAL2019


    bobbyness wrote: »
    Think you're mixing up s12/13 etc sale by description. Those contain conditions and warranties.

    No, within the category of "term" there are conditions and warranties. Both are legally binding, ie terms rather than mere representations, but a breach of a condition allows you to repudiate the contract whereas breach of a warranty only allows damages.



    Your analysis of the terms/representations distinction is correct but the conditions/warranties distinction applies to all contracts, not just goods/services.


    Assuming they obviously have specific definitions in the Sale of Goods Act though (haven't got to revising that yet eek, so thanks for the heads up!)


    Open to correction but like 95% sure thats corrects thanks to ahhhhhFE1s comment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭nmurphy1441


    Contract

    Interpreting express terms??? Is that The Plain meaning rule, the Factual Matrix rule and the Contra Proferentem rule?

    The Parol Evidence rule is there too if I’m right above but it’s always asked not to mention it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Breacnua


    What's the Contract Law pass rate?

    Changes every sitting but 60% on a fairly good sitting

    She looks for precise answers, avoid waffle and plenty case law.

    Reports are good and from my memory she likes following;

    Terms are a feature on most papers with a reference to RECENT case law

    Innominate term is rarely to her satisfaction so it’s asked a lot

    Exclusion clauses and S14 comes up a lot

    Dakota packaging - getting out of a long understanding goodwill oral contract

    Remedies question is rarely mixed with other chapters and worth spending time on

    Don’t rely on mistake coming up in a big way

    Ensure capacity privity illegal undue influence are known enough for Pq

    Consideration I feel will be an essay question or full pq


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭supercreative


    Company

    Anyone have any clue about Q7 March 2017 (changes to types of securities that are required to be registered)? I could waffle something about retention of title clauses and all sums due and how they probably haven't changed but from the report it seems to require knowledge of s99 of the 1963 Act. Any ideas?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭ahhhhhFE1s


    Contract

    Interpreting express terms??? Is that The Plain meaning rule, the Factual Matrix rule and the Contra Proferentem rule?

    The Parol Evidence rule is there too if I’m right above but it’s always asked not to mention it!

    I've those under construction of terms.. I've warranty v mere representation under express terms and the parole evidence rule.. But look wouldn't be entirely confident what I have is right!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 LawStudent96


    As Undue Influence came up in Equity do we think it won't for Contract then?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭nmurphy1441


    Breacnua wrote: »
    Changes every sitting but 60% on a fairly good sitting

    She looks for precise answers, avoid waffle and plenty case law.

    Reports are good and from my memory she likes following;

    Terms are a feature on most papers with a reference to RECENT case law

    Innominate term is rarely to her satisfaction so it’s asked a lot

    Exclusion clauses and S14 comes up a lot

    Dakota packaging - getting out of a long understanding goodwill oral contract

    Remedies question is rarely mixed with other chapters and worth spending time on

    Don’t rely on mistake coming up in a big way

    Ensure capacity privity illegal undue influence are known enough for Pq

    Consideration I feel will be an essay question or full pq

    Have you seen a consideration essay come up in any other way other than to discuss the relationship between it and promissory estoppel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭ahhhhhFE1s


    As Undue Influence came up in Equity do we think it won't for Contract then?

    Ya and it came up in October 2019 with non est factum so thinking fairly unlikely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭jewels652


    CiaranS93 wrote: »
    Tbh currently thinking about dropping general principles because it's quite long. Might take up judicial review instead

    So my notes for the institutions are long so I decided to memorise the night before notes verbatim is that too short then ?? I just memorised the roles I didn’t bother with the other bits such as legislative procedures, democratic deficit and separation of powers. Am I taking the piss :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    jewels652 wrote: »
    So my notes for the institutions are long so I decided to memorise the night before notes verbatim is that too short then ?? I just memorised the roles I didn’t bother with the other bits such as legislative procedures, democratic deficit and separation of powers. Am I taking the piss :)

    I haven't looked at EU in about a week so I could be wrong but I think when institutions comes up a lot of the time it will ask how the institutions have been effected by Lisbon, and that is inviting you to talk about the changes to the legislative procedures and how that lessens the democratic deficit. Not sure if that is a common question, or maybe that is just one question that is sticking out in my mind!

    Sorry don't mean to put you off, maybe have a look at the exam papers to check just in case


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Breacnua


    Have you seen a consideration essay come up in any other way other than to discuss the relationship between it and promissory estoppel?


    I would watch out for the relationship with part payment of a debt and pinnells


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭Sineaddh


    Does anyone have an up to date contract grid? Or even tell me what came up in 2019 sittings? Mine only goes as far as spring 2018


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    Does anyone have the October 19 Company Exam Report? Or even any guidance on what they were looking for on the Corporate Borrowing Q?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭jewels652


    I haven't looked at EU in about a week so I could be wrong but I think when institutions comes up a lot of the time it will ask how the institutions have been effected by Lisbon, and that is inviting you to talk about the changes to the legislative procedures and how that lessens the democratic deficit. Not sure if that is a common question, or maybe that is just one question that is sticking out in my mind!

    Sorry don't mean to put you off, maybe have a look at the exam papers to check just in case

    Thanks for that.

    like I added a line on each as how they changed post Lisbon but that’s all. Maybe I should just face the music and quit the short cuts :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 EAL2019


    jewels652 wrote: »
    Thanks for that.

    like I added a line on each as how they changed post Lisbon but that’s all. Maybe I should just face the music and quit the short cuts :(


    Thats more or less all I'll have for them too! Main Treaty Articles, composition, functions and how they were changed under Lisbon. Like theres only so much you can really know about them.



    For the democratic deficit angle its mostly about whether the Lisbon changes were sufficient etc and whether the role of the Parliament in particular is sufficient, so you'd basically have that covered anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭EmmaO94


    Sineaddh wrote: »
    Does anyone have an up to date contract grid? Or even tell me what came up in 2019 sittings? Mine only goes as far as spring 2018

    Just went through the Oct '19 paper and the questions were:

    Q1 - Exclusion clause, sale of goods act, incorporation (P)
    Q2 - Consideration, promissory estoppel (P)
    Q3 - Misrep, remedies (rescission) P
    Q4 - Undue influence, non est factum, auction without reserve (P)
    Q5 - Duty on plaintiff to mitigate loss by breach of contract (E)
    Q6 - Repudiatory breach, anticipatory beach & breach of innominate terms (E)
    Q7 - Reform of privity in Ireland (E)
    Q8- Choose A or B - express terms or implied terms (E)


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