Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

Drumpot · 09-03-2020 04:03PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Yes to the latter. Flu viruses tend to escalate rapidly but also tend to go into decline rapidly as well - they run out of suitable new hosts to infect or prevailing conditions begin to turn against them.

I know we are sort of using the flu as a benchmark in certain circumstances to compare but is this not slightly different in the aspect of spread? Is the idea that this might blow itself born on the summer and whereby some people have an immunity to certain flues (whereas nobody has an immunity to this)?

I’m a layman so not arguing, just asking....

Strazdas · 09-03-2020 04:03PM

indough wrote: »

If it does go into decline it will be due to actions taken based on those projections.

Or the natural cycle of a virus. If a virus was hyper contagious and unstoppable, it would infect literally every person on the globe.

09-03-2020 04:03PM

thomas 123 wrote: »

I mean we where saying the same not so long ago, I’m sure his tune will change by the end of the day. He’s trying to stop the US going into recession - take a look at the stock market.

Its a bootiful virus.

jos28 · 09-03-2020 04:03PM

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0309/1121035-cabinet-virus-committee/?fbclid=IwAR2ylK_1e8-NQ9YcFoyASpR_RQhlV0WUKWLEGb_2ADTNSJ8XN_TxFy9uLZM

While I realise this action was called for, it now means that the pubs will be filled on Paddy's Day. Much better chance of passing germs round in a pub than outdoors at a parade.

Ipso · 09-03-2020 04:04PM

thomas 123 wrote: »

I mean we where saying the same not so long ago, I’m sure his tune will change by the end of the day. He’s trying to stop the US going into recession - take a look at the stock market.

Yeah, but this is a 70 year old man who uses twitter like a teen on a diet of Stinger bars. Some things need addressing in more than 140 characters.

sjb25 · 09-03-2020 04:04PM

https://twitter.com/fiachkelly/status/1237030285344194560?s=20

dougm1970 · 09-03-2020 04:04PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Much of this is about odds and probability.

1 case - low probability of spread to others - likelihood of only 2-3 other people being directly infected. Your kids would be safe enough.

i'm pure stupid, i apologise in advance....but can you explain that to me like i'm a 4 year old please.

does each of the "2-3" have the same potential to infect another 2-3 and so on ?

owlbethere · 09-03-2020 04:05PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Here's one for the two digit posters who think this is all overblown and we are concerned over nothing:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/08/health/coronavirus-spread-united-states.html

When it gets into nursing homes in this country, we will see the same, unfortunately.

The shit really has hit the fan on a global scale. :mad:

Wouldn't a lock down entirely be best at this stage? I know scary stuff. Where everybody goes home and takes to the bed and relax and take it easy Anyone who's going around carrying this infection unknown to themselves might be in a better position to fight it. Others who don't have the infection would be limited to picking it up.

Parts of Italy is already in lockdown. We are going there. Why delay it?

J Mysterio · 09-03-2020 04:05PM

https://twitter.com/CrimeLdn/status/1237022543434911744

Thelonious Monk · 09-03-2020 04:05PM

Italy has one of the best healthcare systems in the world, and they're struggling. I have no experience with Irish healthcare but if the media is to believed it's an absolute mess, so we better hope this doesn't hit us hard.

ITman88 · 09-03-2020 04:06PM

New Home wrote: »

And vice-versa.

If the virus reaches it potential worst levels of infections, the most vulnerable are still the older population with compromised health.
We need perspective here, we cannot shut down the country to protect the minority who don’t contribute at present.
Shutting down parades will do little to stop this.
The vulnerable need to be isolated, not kids and healthy adults.

spookwoman · 09-03-2020 04:06PM

Uk but shows you that you need to be careful when purchasing online
https://twitter.com/MPSHackney/status/1237030731232272384?s=20

BigMo1 · 09-03-2020 04:06PM

YFlyer wrote: »

Don't think we have enough hot days to blast away the virus.

Yes, but I would assume the likes of Italy, Spain, France etc do. I suppose the next 4 weeks will be telling.

silver2020 · 09-03-2020 04:06PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

China could build a hospital in 12 days. The same hospital would take 12 years here. You can't stick CV patients in with non CV patients in an ordinary hospital, as you spread it even more to vulnerable patients and also to staff, as we saw in Cork.

I wish people would inform themselves of the real info before making wild stupid comparisons.

They built a prefab facility and had the prefab manufacturing capacity to make these prefab room.
How they got that capacity was that they told the factories to stop everything they were working on and work solely on prefab rooms 24/7.

They then got workers to work 12 hours a day 7 days a week with fek all breaks to get the job done in a way that it was sort of useable

Very few medical facilities are in these "hospitals" - effectively its a big group of quarantine rooms stuck together like a lego building and single storey. Suit the situation - but its no hospital in the way you or I would expect

They will probably be dismantled when there use is no longer required.

Also, they never have been filled to more than 50% of capacity

Harry Palmr · 09-03-2020 04:07PM

sjb25 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/fiachkelly/status/1237030285344194560?s=20

The rest of the country was ahead of Dublin in this regard, quite a number had long since been called off.

No shock but I suspect plenty of businesses would have liked this decision made a week earlier, they've probably stocked up on items they no longer need.

thomas 123 · 09-03-2020 04:07PM

Ipso wrote: »

Yeah, but this is a 70 year old man who uses twitter like a teen on a diet of Stinger bars. Some things need addressing in more than 140 characters.

Not condoning it at all, that’s what he is attempting to do though.

New Home · 09-03-2020 04:08PM

ITman88 wrote: »

If the virus reaches it potential worst levels of infections, the most vulnerable are still the older population with compromised health.
We need perspective here, we cannot shut down the country to protect the minority who don’t contribute at present.
Shutting down parades will do little to stop this.
The vulnerable need to be isolated, not kids and healthy adults.

Riiiight. I think an insulin overdose is a swifter, less painful option for them. Or are you offering to ship them off to Switzerland?

ITman88 · 09-03-2020 04:08PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Italy has one of the best healthcare systems in the world, and they're struggling. I have no experience with Irish healthcare but if the media is to believed it's an absolute mess, so we better hope this doesn't hit us hard.

We have a much younger population here, we won’t have the same issues

Cilldara_2000 · 09-03-2020 04:08PM

I haven't bothered reading even just a few posts but I still assume I'm the first to post this:

Paddy's Day is cancelled!!!!!!!

nelly17 wrote: »

I spotted this video on Reddit last night and I think it captures the problem pretty well Its not about current infections its about the exponential growth and thats really where the problem lies

No time to watch right now. The doubling time based on the total figures in Europe from last Sunday to yesterday is 2.57 days. We hit the 1.9m infected spoken about yesterday in ~45 days if that were to hold true here. Mitigation, delay, control whatever they call it is hugely important.

Conrad83 · 09-03-2020 04:08PM

Are many offices working from home? Seems a lot of friends and family have been told to work from home for 2 weeks or indefinitely.

Noticing the trains have been unusually more quiet the last few days. The IFSC is strangely quiet too.

09-03-2020 04:08PM

Boggles wrote: »

Ah Heyor, let's not be rash. Took us 100s of years to open them.

And then we get the virus. Just shows ya.

darjeeling · 09-03-2020 04:08PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Yes to the latter. Flu viruses tend to escalate rapidly but also tend to go into decline rapidly as well - they run out of suitable new hosts to infect or prevailing conditions begin to turn against them.

And flu has a lower ceiling because
1) It is less transmissible than the current estimates for SARS-CoV-2, so it will infect fewer people before it slows and eventually stops spreading.
2) A large percentage of people already have immunity because they have been vaccinated or they have previously recovered from a related strain.

If flu stops circulating when 40% are infected and 20% are already immune, then once 20% of the population have caught it, it ceases to spread.

Here, if we do nothing, the epidemic could be three times that size due to the higher transmissibility and the fact we're all susceptible.

Abba987 · 09-03-2020 04:09PM

jos28 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0309/1121035-cabinet-virus-committee/?fbclid=IwAR2ylK_1e8-NQ9YcFoyASpR_RQhlV0WUKWLEGb_2ADTNSJ8XN_TxFy9uLZM

While I realise this action was called for, it now means that the pubs will be filled on Paddy's Day. Much better chance of passing germs round in a pub than outdoors at a parade.

Are people that stupid??

ITman88 · 09-03-2020 04:09PM

New Home wrote: »

Riiiight. I think an insulin overdose is a swifter, less painful option for them. Or are you offering to ship them off to Switzerland?

No I didn’t suggest that, what I did suggest was the economy is 1st priority, and perhaps isolating the vulnerable is perhaps the better option

tuxy · 09-03-2020 04:09PM

J Mysterio wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CrimeLdn/status/1237022543434911744

Probably people who have never bought soap before and don't realise it's not just pharmacies that sell it.

Rob A. Bank · 09-03-2020 04:09PM

BigMo1 wrote: »

Is there any chance of warmer temperatures helping with containing this or is that a myth?

No one knows for sure... the virus is only known to science since the start of the year.

The number of cases happening in the Persian Gulf and Australia now casts doubt on the influence of seasonal factors.

Also SARS (another coronavirus) started with a camel in the Saudi desert.

We must wait and see.... I certainly hope they will decline but no point in having false hopes.

Harry Palmr · 09-03-2020 04:10PM

ITman88 wrote: »

If the virus reaches it potential worst levels of infections, the most vulnerable are still the older population with compromised health.
We need perspective here, we cannot shut down the country to protect the minority who don’t contribute at present.
Shutting down parades will do little to stop this.
The vulnerable need to be isolated, not kids and healthy adults.

Would you like me to throw myself off Newtown Head?

Seamai · 09-03-2020 04:10PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The rest of the country was ahead of Dublin in this regard, quite a number had long since been called off.

The sensible thing to do though it took them long enough, lets hope they're not going to drag their heels this long the next time an important decision needs to be made.

billybonkers · 09-03-2020 04:10PM

They have cancelled the parade in Dublin

New Home · 09-03-2020 04:10PM

ITman88 wrote: »

No I didn’t suggest that, what I did suggest was the economy is 1st priority, and perhaps isolating the vulnerable is perhaps the better option

Fine, I must've misunderstood you then.

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP