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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • #2282
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,443 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    That whole 1.9 million number makes me want to get out before we're locked down from rest of the world.

    Why, are you vulnerable due to underlying condition or something?

    And where would you go?


  • #2283
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    which part of the Western World would be relatively safe to go to now, and ride out the storm until it passes?


  • #2284
    1641
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭1641


    leavingirl wrote: »
    Ask me again when you are being forced to get the corona virus vaccine next winter.

    Gemma?


  • #2285
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    boege wrote: »
    There are multiple sources but the one I read is here. There was a post about a blog by an Italian Doctor earlier today and he indicated that all positive patients presented with severe lung issues.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/02/200226151951.htm

    Worthy of note in this paper - It's basing its results on the testing accuracy of rRT-PCR in Wuhan; which had terrible logistics and long wait times in getting samples to the lab (due to 'lockdown'), which interferes significantly with accuracy of the results.


  • #2286
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Miike wrote: »
    This post is a lot of words for saying "It doesn't work because I don't understand it".


    Has it provided early detection or prevented the early spread of coronavirus in Ireland, Miike ?

    Oh I understand the realities of it alright and I understand the screening restrictions put in place that make it ineffective.

    400 tests ! or 80 per million.

    "About 81% of the patients with negative RT-PCR results but positive chest CT scans were re-classified as highly likely or probable cases with COVID-19, by the comprehensive analysis of clinical symptoms, typical CT manifestations and dynamic CT follow-ups," the authors wrote".


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  • #2287
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    leavingirl wrote: »
    Ask me again when you are being forced to get the corona virus vaccine next winter.

    Are you still here? Didn't you threaten to leave months ago?


  • #2288
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    STB. wrote: »
    Has it provided early detection or prevented the early spread of coronavirus in Ireland, Miike ?

    Oh I understand the realities of it alright and I understand the screening restrictions put in place that make it ineffective.

    400 tests ! or 80 per million.

    There are in excess of 1,000 tests conducted so far in the Republic of Ireland? Widely cited by most news outlets at this point.


  • #2289
    TTLF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭TTLF
    save the trouble and jazz it up


    Saudi Arabia - gets 11 confirmed cases and immediately closes schools, public places and even bans flights from certain regions

    Ireland - has 21 confirmed cases - hmmm... I think paddy’s day should go ahead :pac:

    Aside from jokes above, I feel quite uneasy that we’ve confirmed literally 3 cases this weekend and every country surrounding us has detected 50+... soemeyhing doesn’t seem right...

    Also was it 12 or 5 more people confirmed In Northern Ireland, i have older aunties and all from there and I’m worried for their safety...

    Thanks.


  • #2290
    wheresthebeef
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭wheresthebeef


    Which is why every nursing home in the country banned visiting on Friday for an indeterminate period of time.


  • #2291
    BorneTobyWilde
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    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Why, are you vulnerable due to underlying condition or something?

    And where would you go?


    Home steader in USA in the Wilderness.


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  • #2292
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Yes, it seems to be based on the rapid doubling scenario of cases literally doubling day in, day out for weeks on end.

    But I'm amazed the health experts aren't casting doubt on this and pointing out this would be an absolute worst case scenario, science fiction disaster movie type stuff.

    That’s what folks were saying when it was 5,000 cases in China and barely anywhere else. Now I believe half the countries on earth have it and quite a few have quite some cases. When this started the idea that Italian doctors would be talking openly about triage and sacrificing older patients would probably have been called scaremongering science fiction stuff.

    I dunno if it’ll reach 1.9m cases here. But I do know it has the potential to get really bad, really quickly, and we ought to be treating it as if it could get there.


  • #2293
    greasepalm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Even this notice has been up on the Beacon hospital for people to see and act.


  • #2294
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭paul71


    leavingirl wrote: »
    Ask me again when you are being forced to get the corona virus vaccine next winter.

    Is it your expert advice not to take it when it becomes available?


  • #2295
    juice1304
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭juice1304


    Miike wrote: »
    There are in excess of 1,000 tests conducted so far in the Republic of Ireland? Widely cited by most news outlets at this point.

    Consider the size of an average school where cases have been detected what 400 students? and then every plane load of idiots jetting off on holiday. 1000 tests is nothing. Especially considering it can take 24 days for symtoms to apear. There could be hundreds of peolpe unknowingly infected spreading the virus now. Which they will only be able to prove when they are actually very sick.
    I for one am fairly terrified by the handling of the situation at present as i do have a degenerative lung disease.


  • #2296
    [Deleted User]
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    greasepalm wrote: »
    Even this notice has been up on the Beacon hospital for people to see and act.

    You obviously go to your vet to get spayed (well judging by certain posters on here). Not you mind.


  • #2297
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭paul71


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Are you still here? Didn't you threaten to leave months ago?

    I had a look at the posting history. Apparently ISIS were trained by the Israeli army and funded by the EU and US.


  • #2298
    [Deleted User]
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    The Italian quarantine was only lip service. They can't force you to stay so people are leaving.


  • #2299
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    TTLF wrote: »
    Saudi Arabia - gets 11 confirmed cases and immediately closes schools, public places and even bans flights from certain regions

    Ireland - has 21 confirmed cases - hmmm... I think paddy’s day should go ahead :pac:

    Aside from jokes above, I feel quite uneasy that we’ve confirmed literally 3 cases this weekend and every country surrounding us has detected 50+... soemeyhing doesn’t seem right...

    Also was it 12 or 5 more people confirmed In Northern Ireland, i have older aunties and all from there and I’m worried for their safety...

    Thanks.


    TDs have a tradition to bowing to pressure from the Vintners’ Federation of Ireland. In fact there are a good few TDs who own pubs. Many pub owners rely on Paddy's Day to carry them through until when the tourist season starts in Easter. This year's tourist season may be very quiet due to the Coronavirus.


  • #2300
    boardise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,530 ✭✭✭boardise


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Who would you like to see as health minister?

    Clear as day -it can only be Roisin Shortall who's been solving the health problem from the opposition benches for years.
    Unfortunately -though not unsurprisingly- she seems determined to stay roosting on these same benches . All blow and bluster is Ms.Shortfall but she couldn't run away fast enough from any chance to get in the trenches and take real responsibility. A waste of electoral space.


  • #2301
    [Deleted User]
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    BTW, did someone say they'd rather be treated by a vet than a doctor??? That's enough internet for tonight.


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  • #2302
    delly
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    The UAE is an interesting one to buck the doubling trend. The first case was at the end of January and they are up to 45 now. 15 of those were added on Saturday, but their numbers are still counter to some other upward trends.

    I note it as I have friends living over there and they are taking things very seriously, schools closed, public events cancelled. They way I see it, they have their wealth in the ground, so are doing what is best for the long term, irrespective of the short term economic loss.


  • #2303
    History Queen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭History Queen


    Not sure if anyone here can enlighten me but is there a need to be nervous about being exposed to a group of people just home from Paris?

    I'm ok with being with the group myself as my own thinking is that it is unlikely any of them have contracted the virus, and less likely that I will get exposed through one of them, however, a close relative is immunosuppressed so I'm thinking I should keep myself away from said relative for 14 days just to be safe.

    Does this sound reasonable or am I being over dramatic?


  • #2304
    ArchXStanton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    6 wrote: »
    The Italian quarantine was only lip service. They can't force you to stay so people are leaving.

    That could be a costly mistake..


  • #2305
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    TTLF wrote: »
    Saudi Arabia - gets 11 confirmed cases and immediately closes schools, public places and even bans flights from certain regions

    Ireland - has 21 confirmed cases - hmmm... I think paddy’s day should go ahead :pac:

    Aside from jokes above, I feel quite uneasy that we’ve confirmed literally 3 cases this weekend and every country surrounding us has detected 50+... soemeyhing doesn’t seem right...

    Also was it 12 or 5 more people confirmed In Northern Ireland, i have older aunties and all from there and I’m worried for their safety...

    Thanks.

    And you thank your lucky stars we have nothing like the government/social polices in this country that that prehistoric s€&@hole has.


  • #2306
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    1641 wrote: »
    Gemma?

    The same thought had occurred to me but I didn`t want to be the one to post it.


  • #2307
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Miike wrote: »
    There are in excess of 1,000 tests conducted so far in the Republic of Ireland? Widely cited by most news outlets at this point.


    Well perhaps you could let Paul Cullen, the Health Editor with the Irish Times know because he is citing 400 from the NVRL in UCD.


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-testing-to-rise-sharply-in-ireland-as-treatment-streamlined-1.4195612


  • #2308
    juice1304
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭juice1304


    History Queen wrote: »
    Not sure if anyone here can enlighten me but is there a need to be nervous about being exposed to a group of people just home from Paris?

    I'm ok with being with the group myself as my own thinking is that it is unlikely any of them have contracted the virus, and less likely that I will get exposed through one of them, however, a close relative is immunosuppressed so I'm thinking I should keep myself away from said relative for 14 days just to be safe.

    Does this sound reasonable or am I being over dramatic?

    Of course its reasonable.


  • #2309
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    6 wrote: »
    BTW, did someone say they'd rather be treated by a vet than a doctor??? That's enough internet for tonight.

    Well I did see this documentary once about a yellow man hit by a cannonball.


  • #2310
    PaybackPayroll
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭PaybackPayroll


    Strazdas wrote: »
    30% of the Irish population contracting this virus seems incredibly high given the low infection rate so far (0.00001% or whatever the number is).

    I'd love to know where they are getting these projections from.

    Right now, as a static figure, yes your infection proportion is low.

    However, what is important is the Basic Reproduction number, called R0 (and that the worst affected will need a hospital bed for 3-6 weeks.)

    If you don't understand how the numbers can so quickly multiply, please do read this:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_reproduction_number


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  • #2311
    [Deleted User]
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    ArchXStanton wrote: »
    That could be a costly mistake..

    Absolutely. Trains of people heading south. Flights leaving. Italy is making a serious mess of this.


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