Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

lalababa · 08-03-2020 10:30PM

Was at a packed out movie in Cork city this evening. Of middle aged & elderly. Now normally you'd get a good few coughs. But guess what ...not one cough in 90 mins. Haha nobody wanted to be the one...mind over matter!

Blueshoe · 08-03-2020 10:31PM

Popoutman wrote: »

On what basis do you think this?

Or have you got actual facts and proper analysis to back up your (poorly thought out) assertion that we'll be fine?

No? Not surprising. Too many people in this country without foresight to plan ahead.

No sense in getting yourself worked up over others opinions. The cortisol release is not good for the system.

Just my thoughts. I didn't claim to be fact. Just my musings

wadacrack · 08-03-2020 10:31PM

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1236766228129210368

GM228 · 08-03-2020 10:32PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Guardian busting myths. Masks work. Get one if you can.

Fair play to the Guardian, busting myths with zero evidence....

wexfordman2 · 08-03-2020 10:32PM

Friend of mine, young male mid twenties, been very sick the last few days (Weds/Thursday), fever, coughing, diziness, had been a visitor to cuh over the last fortnight. His go put him on anti biotics, he feels worse now, has been back to Doctor who has given him a different dose of antibiotics, and he is still no better, and has had difficulty breathing.l, with temp.of 103. Could be flue, could be something more serious.
He has had no luck getting any information or support, and despite his multiple please to gp and have helpline, no one has suggested anything to help him, or even get him tested for Corona.

Last update is HSE told him to ring the occupational health line (whatever that is) tomorrow.

We, including myself,.my wife and kids were with him on Friday, so there is a risk that if he is sick with itz we may also be susceptible.

No advice anywhere, nothing, my son is due in school tomorrow,.my wife in work, my daughter in college, and me in work in Dublin.

Not one official help line, no one to tell is, yes, carry in as normal,.or no, await results from our friend. Apart from one friend who is a nurse told us that he is a high risk case, and as such, we should consider ourselves high risk also.

spookwoman · 08-03-2020 10:32PM

owlbethere wrote: »

I spent all weekend hiding in from this bitch

Will probably have to declare it with some of the posters and send them the swabs to be believed.

Achasanai · 08-03-2020 10:32PM

citysights wrote: »

Maybe it depends on which supermarket you are in, yesterday my Mum was told by Tesco staff there’s a run on toilet paper today I was in a different Tesco and there was loads of everything and no sign of any panic, it was quite reassuring and made me question if people really are panic buying or if it’s just people online. I dunno

I've noticed (on different shops throughout the week) a run on rice (early in the week), pasta (mid week) and toilet paper (yesterday). To be fair to the staff, they are replenished very quickly (as in, pasta and rice were both full on Saturday).

martingriff · 08-03-2020 10:32PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Will definitely stop the grazes and people who should not be there, but the poor feckers who have no choice... I hope I don't have to go back in soon

Oh I agree those that do have to go its be scary but hopefully those areas well be so cleansed it be fine

whisky_galore · 08-03-2020 10:33PM

wadacrack wrote: »

We are in a very vulnerable position then. Mass gathering at this stage should be probably banned . The army should be utilized too

Boosting spectator numbers at the parades?

lainey_d_123 · 08-03-2020 10:33PM

daheff wrote: »

With 14 days before this (at least) to get the virus....means they had it around 11th Feb. Which is before the first confirmed case (I think).

So where did they get it from???

I'm starting to wonder if the bad flu over Xmas period is related??

How would we ever know? I had a really nasty dose in early February, far worse than normal. An Italian colleague had some kind of cold/flu symptoms, came to work sick, and then I got sick a few days later. I did think at the time it was strangely severe and seemed to hang around far longer than normal, but then maybe it was all the media coverage getting into my head and it was just a cold.

Kermit.de.frog · 08-03-2020 10:34PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Is the woman in the East the guy from the South or have we 2 in serious condition?

is_that_so · 08-03-2020 10:34PM

Concern at exodus from Italy's quarantined zones

An actor and Venice resident has told one news agency that many people fled after word got out that Lombardy and 14 other central and northern provinces were being locked down late on Saturday night.

"My cousins, my friends, they packed bags and left last night," Vincenzo Tosetti told AFP. "This is going to test the Italians' ability to behave responsibly, and I have to say that up until now they've been failing. There's been an exodus".

Television showed hundreds of travellers flowing into Milan's central station overnight to catch trains out. Under the new measures, people are not supposed to be able to enter or leave the so-called red zone, except in emergencies or for health reasons.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-51789355 @16.41

owlbethere · 08-03-2020 10:34PM

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

It's in London.......... ehhhhhhh

I would do it. You would be well monitored.

expectationlost · 08-03-2020 10:34PM

wexfordman2 wrote: »

Friend of mine, young male mid twenties, been very sick the last few days (Weds/Thursday), fever, coughing, diziness, had been a visitor to cuh over the last fortnight. His go put him on anti biotics, he feels worse now, has been back to Doctor who has given him a different dose of antibiotics, and he is still no better, and has had difficulty breathing.l, with temp.of 103. Could be flue, could be something more serious.
He has had no luck getting any information or support, and despite his multiple please to gp and have helpline, no one has suggested anything to help him, or even get him tested for Corona.

Last update is HSE told him to ring the occupational health line (whatever that is) tomorrow.

We, including myself,.my wife and kids were with him on Friday, so there is a risk that if he is sick with itz we may also be susceptible.

No advice anywhere, nothing, my son is due in school tomorrow,.my wife in work, my daughter in college, and me in work in Dublin.

Not one official help line, no one to tell is, yes, carry in as normal,.or no, await results from our friend. Apart from one friend who is a nurse told us that he is a high risk case, and as such, we should consider ourselves high risk also.

high risk why?

STB. · 08-03-2020 10:34PM

Miike wrote: »

The way rRT-PCR testing works is a bit tricky, if you trawl my post history you'll get some (hopefully) good information on it. But the reason I bring it up is the test is only VERY effective when it returns a positive result (which requires the virus to be replicating at a significant number for the genetic material to be tested). The test does NOT return a "Negtative" results, only "not detected" - Not detected is miles away from being a negative and as such, testing asymptomatic patients and giving them a "not detected" result, interpreted by the general public as 'I dont have it', is vastly more dangerous, which is why these people are told to self isolate pending changing presentation.

People who are tested too early and asymptomatically, without time for the virus to replicate to a detectable level and giving them a 'not detected result' is dangerous and put significant strain on the NVRL to run vital tests on people. This is an ever changing circumstance and hopefully soon we will be testing for SARS-CoV-2 in local hospital groups instead of centrally via the NVRL which will widen the scope of out capacity to run "lower risk" rRT-PCRs

Miike, with all due respect, PCR does not work (ordinary folk tune out at the tech words). The Italians have learned this, the hard way.

People are sent off as they are not displaying symptoms or do not fulfill qualifying criteria are asked "voluntarily" to self isolate and to come back if they developed more symptoms. Its long finger testing. The experience in Italy of people sent home or are not tested because they don't meet the criteria

1) that people don't think they are at risk and do not treat it seriously and possibly infect others.

2) self isolate until they develop respiratory problems or failure, which in then turn qualifies them for the test, which inevitably confirms bilateral interstitial pneumonia.

Snowball.

Scoondal · 08-03-2020 10:34PM

Mis-information about Covid19.
Facts : There are 45,000 cases of Covid19 worldwide
61,000 cases have recovered
RTE are saying that there are now 109,000 cases of the virus. Yes, but only 45,000 cases of people now infected. 61,000 have already recovered.
Can this fact be published somewhere. It seems trusted media is going down the sensatonalist route to get clicks or something.

DrumSteve · 08-03-2020 10:35PM

Not entirely sure why people are sniping at each other on here; we all want the same outcome, the minimum amount of upheaval and death possible.

Nobody knows whats coming. We can make a pretty good guess though, that if we don't get the finger out and be pro active, a lot of elderly people and people with vulnerabilites will die.

Miike · 08-03-2020 10:35PM

wexfordman2 wrote: »

Friend of mine, young male mid twenties, been very sick the last few days (Weds/Thursday), fever, coughing, diziness, had been a visitor to cuh over the last fortnight. His go put him on anti biotics, he feels worse now, has been back to Doctor who has given him a different dose of antibiotics, and he is still no better, and has had difficulty breathing.l, with temp.of 103. Could be flue, could be something more serious.
He has had no luck getting any information or support, and despite his multiple please to gp and have helpline, no one has suggested anything to help him, or even get him tested for Corona.

Last update is HSE told him to ring the occupational health line (whatever that is) tomorrow.

We, including myself,.my wife and kids were with him on Friday, so there is a risk that if he is sick with itz we may also be susceptible.

No advice anywhere, nothing, my son is due in school tomorrow,.my wife in work, my daughter in college, and me in work in Dublin.

Not one official help line, no one to tell is, yes, carry in as normal,.or no, await results from our friend. Apart from one friend who is a nurse told us that he is a high risk case, and as such, we should consider ourselves high risk also.

Your fiend should ring the local emergency department and explain their case, as a matter of urgency.

Funsterdelux · 08-03-2020 10:35PM

lalababa wrote: »

Was at a packed out movie in Cork city this evening. Of middle aged & elderly. Now normally you'd get a good few coughs. But guess what ...not one cough in 90 mins. Haha nobody wanted to be the one...mind over matter!

Any farts?

Springfields · 08-03-2020 10:37PM

martingriff wrote: »

Maybe they will improve as no one will want to go to A&E and some may realise they never should have went

Exactly... reports from regional hospital in limerick is that the a&e is deserted in the last few days...same reason Christmas day and christmas eve are the quietest days of the year in a&e.

ITman88 · 08-03-2020 10:38PM

An article from Friday stated all of Italy’s victims were over 60, with serious health issues and oddly most were male.
It’s suggested the biggest problem with the northern region of Italy is the age profile, the average age in Italy is 45, ten years older than here.
I think no lockdown will occur in this country, quite simply it can’t, it’s the young and healthy at work paying taxes who are going to support the demographic who will suffer most from this.

Would it make more sense to isolate the vulnerable for a period of time, anyone over 60 with health conditions should perhaps self isolate for a period of time to avoid exposure to the virus

Drumpot · 08-03-2020 10:38PM

Scoondal wrote: »

Mis-information about Covid19.
Facts : There are 45,000 cases of Covid19 worldwide
61,000 cases have recovered
RTE are saying that there are now 109,000 cases of the virus. Yes, but only 45,000 cases of people now infected. 61,000 have already recovered.
Can this fact be published somewhere. It seems trusted media is going down the sensatonalist route to get clicks or something.

That is true but what would equally be true is the current death to recovery ratio would have to be said to be 6%

08-03-2020 10:38PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

you were'nt going to hear them today, if they wernt in the update earlier

How so? Apparently we have expected to hear them the last two nights about the Drogheda infections for the last while. Eventually, you'll be correct. But the conspiracy theorists will construct their.own narrative

J_1980 · 08-03-2020 10:39PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Concern at exodus from Italy's quarantined zones

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-51789355 @16.41

Lol
Korea, Japan, China, Singapore even Thailand are doing an amazing job in containing this vs. Europe.

Their authoritarian, free-market capitalist system seems to be working much better than Europe’s liberal humanitarian democracies.

Gods Gift · 08-03-2020 10:39PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Any farts?

Packed with old farts.

freshpopcorn · 08-03-2020 10:39PM

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caveat emptor · 08-03-2020 10:39PM

Miike wrote: »

Periods of incubation for SARS-CoV-2 is demonstrated to typically be 2 to 14 days barring the 1 case defined in outliers which may actually be a case of double exposure.

Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-incubation-period/

WHO has a handy guide on how to fight this and given we have community transmission we should

"Implement all-of-society resilience,
repurpose government, business
continuity, and community services plans"

We should demand this from our political leaders. Given all the hullabaloo pre-election about civil war politcs being dead and Fine fail and Fine gael being on different sides etc. Someone update them, we have a new war and we are all on the same side.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/20200307-cccc-guidance-table-covid-19-final.pdf?sfvrsn=1c8ee193_10

Miike · 08-03-2020 10:39PM

STB. wrote: »

Miike, with all due respect, PCR does not work (ordinary folk tune out at the tech words). The Italians have learned this, the hard way.

People are sent off as they are not displaying symptoms or do not fulfill qualifying criteria are asked "voluntarily" to self isolate and to come back if they developed more symptoms. Its long finger testing. The experience in Italy of people sent home or are not tested because they don't meet the criteria

1) that people don't think they are at risk and do not treat it seriously and possibly infect others.

2) self isolate until they develop respiratory problems or failure, which in then turn qualifies them for the test, which inevitably confirms bilateral interstitial pneumonia.

Snowball.

So how should we be testing people to confirm a diagnosis?

DrumSteve · 08-03-2020 10:39PM

Miike wrote: »

Your fiend should ring the local emergency department and explain their case, as a matter of urgency.

Just tell them he's going to walk into the reception in CUH unless they test him. *

*please don't do that.

odyssey06 · 08-03-2020 10:40PM

Scoondal wrote: »

Mis-information about Covid19.
Facts : There are 45,000 cases of Covid19 worldwide
61,000 cases have recovered
RTE are saying that there are now 109,000 cases of the virus. Yes, but only 45,000 cases of people now infected. 61,000 have already recovered.
Can this fact be published somewhere. It seems trusted media is going down the sensatonalist route to get clicks or something.

109000 cases have occurred up to now.
Its not misinformaton or sensationalism.
You forgot the number of cases who are no longer infected, as they are dead.

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP