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ILoveYourVibes · 06-03-2020 08:29PM

Jane98 wrote: »

I heard it on Newstalk (I think) this morning just after 8am. I too think its a totally inappropriate time to air such an ad.

No but its the only time most people listen to the radio these days in their cars to work etc.

I think I agree with the previous poster we need to grow up and realize its not going away.

If a single guy wants to visit one that is between 2 consenting adults. If its a married man that is on him.

All the trafficking etc there is way more to that than prostitution. Its sexism poverty ..racism etc. It can't be tackled just by banning prostitution.

Plus its legal in most places in Europe anyway. Its collaboration we need to stop trafficking.

https://www.businessinsider.com/prostitution-is-legal-in-countries-across-europe-photos-2019-3?r=US&IR=T

AmberGold · 06-03-2020 08:38PM

Oddly Advertising Standards only handle complaints against commercial entities.

Potential-Monke · 07-03-2020 04:36PM

AmberGold wrote: »

Oddly Advertising Standards only handle complaints against commercial entities.

Yeah, it's the Broadcasting Authority that investigate radio adverts.

jaxxx · 07-03-2020 04:46PM

Discodog wrote: »

It also states that it's a lie to believe that women do this by choice. The ad should be banned for not being truthful.

From their website:

Every day, all across the island of Ireland, up to 1000 vulnerable woman are trafficked and forced into prostitution

So it could be 1 or 1000.

Do they just make up numbers in their heads? In all the pure rubbish spouted by Ruhama throughout all these years, I cannot remember even once using any sort of actual data to back up their claims. Human trafficking is probably the #1 most evil act human beings are capable of IMHO, but I don't subscribe to the idea that there aren't those that choose to have sex for money, nor do I believe that the majority who work as prostitutes are all forced against their will. I don't know what sort of figures we're talking about, but I for one would rather listen to someone who actually has direct and ACTUAL knowledge of how it all goes in this country rather than a bunch of malicious and bigotted old c*nts who have nothing better to do than force their prejudice down everyone's throats, especially seeing as Ruhama is headed by those responsible for the Magdalene launderies.

Vic_08 wrote: »

These lot may couch it in PC language and may even make it sound like men bashing but they are really just women haters using the topic as a way of furthering their Victorian style targeting of harlots partaking in unmarried sex.

Let's not forget that Ruhama are the modern face of the Magdalene sisters, this is just the PR front for their nasty agenda aimed at women they see as inferior to their catholic ideals, can't lock them in laundries and use them as slaves anymore but they have not given up the holy war.

Despite it being sold as being protection for vulnerable women the anti-prostitution legislation they pushed through has already seen several sex workers imprisoned in a country where you can get a slap on the wrist for throwing acid in someone's face.

^^^^^^^^^^

GarIT · 07-03-2020 05:51PM

Harmonics wrote: »

People actually believe women chose to be prostitutes?

Yes, I know some personally. Making as much if not more than the head of engineering at an IT company for a job that requires little skills or education is great if you have no feelings on sex that would make it a negative experience.

I know girls who can make $2k per day, or what they actually do is work 1-4 hours a week and make more than the average wage. Particularly in the kink community it's taking off often without actual sex involved.

And it's not the type of people you would think of either, look on tinder, at least one in 10 girls has something in their bio like "looking for a sugar daddy" or look at seeking arangements, loads of beautiful girls from rich families looking for a few grand a month to date you.

jaxxx · 07-03-2020 05:57PM

Harmonics wrote: »

People actually believe women chose to be prostitutes?

It's because of gullible people like you that Ruhama get away with their bigotted vendetta. But go ahead, you believe what you're told by an organisation operated by the same filth behind the Magdalene laundries. I'm being uncharacteristically kind with my use of 'gullible' btw where people such as yourself are concerned. Same can be said for my use of 'people'.

Believe everything you read in the papers do you?

Potential-Monke · 07-03-2020 06:31PM

Harmonics wrote: »

I think it's you that's gullible...

I won't call you gullible, but you're very narrow minded to think that no woman does this for a living. It's no different to porn and probably pays better. Just google Prostitute and Proud and you'll get the results.

Harmonics wrote: »

What will these girls do when their looks fade?

Retire and enjoy the massive savings from the massive amounts of money they made simply by having sex. Modelling is a hard industry to get into. Prostitution needs a hard industry, which is easier to come by.

Minime2.5 · 07-03-2020 06:36PM

Cienciano wrote: »

Probably because it was made by a group of auld ones who never had sex.

Or couldnt get it

jaxxx · 07-03-2020 06:44PM

Harmonics wrote: »

Put it this way, I don't believe girls from places like Brazil or Ukraine, girls who look like models, dream of going to places like Amsterdam to get gang fcuked by drunk lads on stags for a living.

I think it's you that's gullible...

You might wanna look up the definition first.. .. ..

jaxxx · 07-03-2020 06:53PM

Harmonics wrote: »

Yeah sure, Svetlana from the village always dreamt of sucking cock in a whorehouse in Dublin...and now she's doing it! You go girl!

What ever helps you sleep at night.

What helps me sleep at night is doing some research into something before I go running my mouth off about something that I know absolutely nothing about. Like Ruhama's true origin and their true intentions for example, despite the lies they spew which is lapped up by 'people' such as yourself.

jaxxx · 07-03-2020 07:00PM

Harmonics wrote: »

No need for that level of anger. How many times do you need to be told? Beautiful girls from eastern Europe do not dream of being prostitutes in the west.

LOL, anger. No s*it Sherlock, point out to me where I said that or anything like it? The fact is that there are those, not just from S.American/E.Europe, that willingly have sex for money. If you can't accept that, then you're nothing but a lap dog for organisations like Ruhama, who absolutely do far more harm than good and couldn't care less about about genuine victims of human trafficking, the people they're supposedly there to help. Sometimes I'd love to be able to just believe everything I'm told and not dare question anything :pac:

Btw, is the planet flat?

jaxxx · 07-03-2020 07:14PM

Harmonics wrote: »

Your rage in no way convinces me that prostitutes are doing it willingly.

Instead of raging at Ruhama you should get angry at the pimps and traffickers.

LOL, rage. Having a discussion = raging does it? LMAO. Only one raging here is you me thinks, given your penchant for somehow knowing I'm angry/raging

I wouldn't bother meself trying to convince you the grass is green. If you want some evidence as to the harm that Ruhama and this very law has done and continues to do, then I suggest you do some research. SWAI, that should put you in the right direction champ

Here's a nice old quote for you (Die Hard) and amply illustrates Ruhama in a nutshell: "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem".

Btw you didn't answer my question on whether you thought the world was flat?? ?? ??

Probably don't need to though!

Potential-Monke · 07-03-2020 07:22PM

Harmonics wrote: »

God that's depressing.

Depressing to me is working an office job 9-5 Mon-Fri until rich people decide I'm old enough to retire (currently 67 and counting iirc), and then give me less than 50% of the Living Wage they spout as retirement.

If I could make money off having sex, I would. I won't say no-one, but a minuscule amount of women out there would willingly pay a 5'7" (I grew an inch! And no, the measuring was perfection and couldn't possibly be slightly out), slightly overweight balding big bearded ginger with not a lot of stamina.

What about all those women who use the internet to make money off their nudity/self pleasure? Webcams and the like. You know there are devices out there that you insert and they vibrate longer/harder depending on how much the viewer donates? Multiple people viewing at the same time, all donating at the same time. It's quite a site, and the women seem to love it, especially the money. Just Google "webcam sex", you don't even need to sign up/donate for most, because they'll only reveal or do more at certain milestones, so you can get all the fun without even paying, you just need patience.

I saw one there recently and the lady had to stop mid performance because she was so happily shocked that someone had just donated $10000 to her. In a split second she was up $10k simply for masturbating. Who wouldn't want that? Sex is just another version of it, and while I've no doubt there are many forced into it, there are also those who willing partake.

jaxxx · 07-03-2020 07:22PM

Harmonics wrote: »

I don't believe the world is flat and I don't believe women willingly want to be prostitutes. I don't believe beautiful young women want to have sex with random men in brothels.

But hey keep telling yourself she's enjoying it just as much as you are...

Ah your ignorance truly is bliss. I don't see what is actually factual about your 'beliefs' though.. .. .. Food for thought.

anewme · 07-03-2020 07:33PM

A personal incident on a stormy wet night demonstrated to me that there is a serious issue with people trafficking and crime in this Country. It does not impact any of us on a daily basis, so it's easy to deny it is there.

Potential-Monke · 07-03-2020 07:45PM

Harmonics wrote: »

So you belive young women want to be fcuked, day in, day out by random men?

Not day in, day out. The women who voluntarily do this, as explained, work for maybe a few hours a week to get more than what we work 39+ hours for in the same week. So it's not day in, day out. And to some people, shock horror, sex is just sex. Nothing more.

Harmonics wrote: »

I'll take the 9-5 day job over being a whore. Also, if you want to do sex work, why not get into the gay porn industry?

Because I'm not gay.

anewme · 07-03-2020 07:46PM

Harmonics wrote: »

No not true. Young women love having sex with dozens of random men, every day. Stop being so old fashioned

I am sure there are women who do make a choice of it. But there are many who don't. There are many layers to the industry from high end escorts to people paying to abuse women, low quality people. I dont know anything about Ruhama really, people here seem to say they have their own Agenda. But there are people living in dangerous circumstances afraid to speak out and sometimes not able to even speak our language. They live among us, but we don't see them, or dont want to.

eviltwin · 07-03-2020 07:47PM

Harmonics wrote: »

I'll take the 9-5 day job over being a whore. Also, if you want to do sex work, why not get into the gay porn industry?

Maybe women who choose to do this work - they do exist - would be more open if they weren't judged for it and called pejorative words like whore.

jaxxx · 07-03-2020 07:48PM

Harmonics wrote: »

So you belive young women want to be fcuked, day in, day out by random men?

I'm actually facepalming at this point. Where did I say that? "F*cked day in day out". Do you think women that are actually choosing to have sex for money have sex with dozens of guys every day? Do your research and stop being such an ignorant little troll. The FACT is that human trafficking and consensual sex workers are NOT mutually exclusive, i.e. they are NOT one in the same thing, they are independent from one another. There are those that are forced to have sex for money against their will, forced to live in horrible conditions and are quite LITERALLY slaves. It is IMHO the most disgusting crime human beings are capable of. YES IT HAPPENS IN IRELAND. But this law has made sweet f*ck all difference in thwarting that! And anyone who knowingly has sex with someone like this is as bad and as sick, IF NOT WORSE, than those committing the trafficking in the first place!

And regardless of whether your tiny little mind chooses to believe it or not, there are women who choose to have sex for money. They're not forced into it. No one profits from them but themselves. Why they do it is their business and only theirs. And despite what the media tells you, they aren't uneducated, drug dependent, and riddled with diseases. If you bothered to spend even 5 minutes looking up some of the work the Sex Workers Alliance Ireland have done, then maybe you'd be a bit less ignorant towards the whole thing. I highly doubt it however.

Get your head out from under your ass and don't believe everything you read in the papers. And yeah, NOW I'm angry, because I have exactly ZERO tolerance for sheer ignorance like yours.

Amnesty International, you know of them I assume? Your head isn't that so far under the ground? They opposed this law you know, and actually supported the idea of decriminalisation and regulation. But I guess they don't have a clue what they're talking about eh? It's not like the idea of humans rights has anything to do with them.. ..

GarIT · 07-03-2020 08:15PM

Harmonics wrote: »

Put it this way, I don't believe girls from places like Brazil or Ukraine, girls who look like models, dream of going to places like Amsterdam to get gang fcuked by drunk lads on stags for a living.

I think it's you that's gullible...

Harmonics wrote: »

No not true. Young women love having sex with dozens of random men, every day. Stop being so old fashioned

They don't love or dream of working in Aldi or Lidl either but they do it. The good looking ones can chose their clients and set very high prices. I know one girl, from Kildare who's career is now to travel the world and sunbathe on yachts owned by rich men. There is likely more expected of her but she doesn't make that public.

Dravokivich · 07-03-2020 08:18PM

Harmonics wrote: »

I'll take the 9-5 day job over being a whore. Also, if you want to do sex work, why not get into the gay porn industry?

Wait a second, first they were trafficked... now they are whores? What are you at?

Sarcozies · 07-03-2020 08:20PM

Vic_08 wrote: »

These lot may couch it in PC language and may even make it sound like men bashing but they are really just women haters using the topic as a way of furthering their Victorian style targeting of harlots partaking in unmarried sex.

Let's not forget that Ruhama are the modern face of the Magdalene sisters, this is just the PR front for their nasty agenda aimed at women they see as inferior to their catholic ideals, can't lock them in laundries and use them as slaves anymore but they have not given up the holy war.

Despite it being sold as being protection for vulnerable women the anti-prostitution legislation they pushed through has already seen several sex workers imprisoned in a country where you can get a slap on the wrist for throwing acid in someone's face.

The whole law change a couple years ago is a farce. Let's make it illegal for the men to buy it but let's make it so the sellers (women) get off.

Could you imagine a law change where drug dealers were able to sell heroin and the person buying it were the only ones prosecuted?

We of course all know the only reason it's like this is because the main gender of the sellers is female and buyers male.

For reference, I believe it should be legal for all.

GarIT · 07-03-2020 08:21PM

Harmonics wrote: »

What will these girls do when their looks fade?

Of 5+ I know two are doing degrees in high paid in demand fields. Some others get pregnant or marry one of the guys they were with when they start to get a little older.

mikhail · 07-03-2020 08:52PM

Harmonics wrote: »

Maybe they do. But I think they vast majority don't. Someone explain to me why a young girl from a place like Ukraine would want to service men in a brothel in Amsterdam?

It's the same motivation her brother has for ****ing up his knees and back on a building site next door to the brothel, just much less of it. The presumption that everyone has a moral horror of sex work is naive.

Potential-Monke · 07-03-2020 08:55PM

Harmonics wrote: »

The digust you feel at having sex with men is the same digust women in brothels feel at having to service their 'clients'

Wow, bit if a jump there. I don't feel disgust, well, not that one time I tried it. I understand why they like it, but it's not for me, so that's why I won't make a living out of it.

GarIT · 07-03-2020 08:56PM

Harmonics wrote: »

You're comparing construction work with being fcuked by 10-20 random men in a brothel every day?

Ok...

Some people see sex as no different to massage. Your genitals aren't some special unique part of your body that must be kept hidden away.

The Shocking Truth · 07-03-2020 08:57PM

hurikane wrote: »

I heard it, can’t remember any mention of gender? Was there?

There was. You obviously didn't hear the same one.

The Shocking Truth · 07-03-2020 08:58PM

It's funny the way they say "you'll have to explain it to your wife and kids". They may as well as well be saying "we know your wife doesn't give you sex any more"! And of course a lot of people are thinking "well I don't have a wife".

Montage of Feck · 07-03-2020 08:59PM

Harmonics wrote: »

Maybe they do. But I think they vast majority don't. Someone explain to me why a young girl from a place like Ukraine would want to service men in a brothel in Amsterdam?

The almighty dollar of course.

mikhail · 07-03-2020 09:01PM

Harmonics wrote: »

You're comparing construction work with being fcuked by 10-20 random men in a brothel every day?

Ok...

Would you like to explain why they're different? You answer probably shouldn't assume sex is somehow disturbing and sinful, or there'll be very little to discuss.

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