Final Fantasy VII Remaster/Remake

Retr0gamer wrote: »

You mean the mot universally acclaimed system FF has given us that spawned 4 job fiesta and is in all the best FF games (including secret best FF Tactics)?

Get off this forum with this blasphemy!

I hope people aren't judging FF4,5 and 6 based on the god awful PS1 ports? I'd take all 3 of them over FF7.

I played 4 and 5 off of the port. 6 on an emulator.

Loved 4 and 6 btw even with the port to ps1. The job system just took away any sense of character from the story. They didn't have personalities, they were just blank slates for jobs. The story was garbage.

I will say Gilgamesh nearly saved it singlehandedly.

Minime2.5 wrote: »

so youve played through 6

I did play through it sometime after release after it was praised to high heaven. It had too many characters and the world felt disjointed. Alot of the towns didn't feel like they existed in the same world. Steampunk town, Sci-fi town, medieval castles, modern villages, medieval villages. Then i recall one place in the southern area of a continent that has skyscrapers and was pretty much New York city. Then you have Ninja, magic, trains, knights, laser guns, it was a mess of a game. Plus Kefka was just annoying more than anything

:pac:

WrenBoy wrote: »

9 never gets the love it deserves imo. Obviously 7 is the pinnacle but 9 is a very close second for me, the rest have a big gap then for me.

FF 10 was a good game but they ruined it with X 2

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Ffx-2 is again a game with a terrible story but found the mechanics loads of fun.

Hated at the time but have warmed to it. As long as you don't go for the secret ending which is frustrating and bugged.

Agree FF X and FF X-2 had great mechanics with the grid sphere and the dressphere. Them and the materia in FFVII are my favourite leveling systems

Need more FF7 remake content ASAP before we rip ourselves to shreds here :pac:

RedXIV wrote: »

With any of the final fantasy games in my experience, wait about 18 months after release, you'll pick it up for <€15 or so

Yeah it's not something I'd go out of my way to play, I got KH3 in Smyths for €15 around 6 months after release so this will be probably the same, no many people play these kinda games anymore. They just don't hold up compared to GOW, Uncharted, Spider-Man, the stories in those games are great.

SMC92Ian wrote: »

Yeah it's not something I'd go out of my way to play, I got KH3 in Smyths for €15 around 6 months after release so this will be probably the same, no many people play these kinda games anymore. They just don't hold up compared to GOW, Uncharted, Spider-Man, the stories in those games are great.

Final fantasy vii doesn't hold up to spiderman storywise??? Is this a joke?

I don't really care about the translation and the low level details of each little anime twist. It is very easy to get into a 'well acshually' debate about things like that. Sephiroth for the most part imo is a representation of a man made disease killing the planet, like a virus, so the whole 'force of will' thing is just a part of that. Jenova/Sephiroth is the foreign agent trying to take over its host (the planet). Weapons then are an antibody which see humans as just a big a threat as Sephiroth cause they created him, so that's why they tear **** up.

What I like about VII is it tells a story about human exceptionalism and how it is trumped by forces beyond its control. I like how in its ending the party all sort of accepts the way fate's cards have been dealt when faced with obliteration by either meteor or holy or whatever. It's something I find more profound in our current ere as we are currently smothering the planet and wondering what the f*ck to do about it, but ultimately it won't matter because it is ourselves we will end up destroying and the planet will find its own way to recover and cultivate new life. Much how Midgar gets overtaken at the end 500 yrs later.

I also love that it doesn't really answer the question if Cloud and the gang all die and rejoin Aeris in the lifestream (the 'promised land') or if Aeris' intervention is what spares them their extinction in the end.

But of course you can pick out deus ex machina and twists and Hojo BS and complain about it but it's such a f*cking dull way to talk about video games for 23 years or whatever. It's all just really boring and I don't care anymore about how bits of VII were hacked together or stuff was badly translated. Yeah the localisation is bad and smothers some important plot but there's enough resources out there now to get around that. Tim Rogers on Kotaku did a great series on it

Look at what you can get in convenience stores all over Japan now!? 2 weeks after I return from a once in a lifetime trip!

goddammit!!!

fixXxer wrote: »

Be really interested to hear the thoughts of someone who never played FF7 going through this.

First time playing final fantasy 7 for me was last night with the demo. Never got around to playing the original. First FF game I ever played was FF10 (which is the greatest final fantasy game ever even Retr0gamer agrees :pac: )

I like it. I didn't know what to think of the combat at the start but grew on me by the end of the demo. I can certainly see the appeal of 7 just from initial expressions. Seems a darker entry to the series than 10, 10-2 and 12.

RedXIV wrote: »

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESW8SXlUwAAyi4V?format=jpg&name=large

Look at what you can get in convenience stores all over Japan now!? 2 weeks after I return from a once in a lifetime trip!

goddammit!!!

Any link to them? Might go over in June so could grab some if they're still available.