Grumpy Moore Street Traders

Chinasea · 04-03-2020 02:43PM

Removalist wrote: »

If people think the moore street market is bad they should have a look at the markets in Marseille.

Be careful what you wish for.

Oh come on.

It's not a competition btw. There is nothing whatsoever charming or pleasant about Moore Street. Hogging onto some sort of propagated nostalgia is just enabling the farce.

Sure let the traders continue, but time to introduce some diversity. After all their customer base are 90% diverse.

How come blatant fake goods, illegal cigarettes etc are openly flogged in the middle of one of the most expensive trading square footage in Europe. Tis not only the rotten fruit that stinks.

stoneill · 04-03-2020 02:44PM

People like that are ten for fifty.

Removalist · 04-03-2020 02:49PM

Chinasea wrote: »

Oh come on.

It's not a competition btw. There is nothing whatsoever charming or pleasant about Moore Street. Hogging onto some sort of propagated nostalgia is just enabling the farce.

Sure let the traders continue, but time to introduce some diversity. After all their customer base are 90% diverse.

How come blatant fake goods, illegal cigarettes etc are openly flogged in the middle of one of the most expensive trading square footage in Europe. Tis not only the rotten fruit that stinks.

The gardai and customs should be in doing their jobs, I rarely see them on the street and I work close by. I agree the street is not a pretty site. Sure even look at the state of o connell street and that's our main thoroughfare, fast food restaurants, internet cafes and arcades. Shìte.

topper75 · 04-03-2020 02:52PM

CrankyHaus wrote: »

Sorry are people raving there, or buying bananas?

Well one point of my post was dual usage. Why not a bigger version in Dublin? For the imaginatively-challenged I should also provide the stalls shot:

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Just do a google image search for Limerick market and imagine bigger. I propose Smithfields plaza but local Dubs may have better ideas.

Cork's English market is too Victorian a model for 2020 Dublin.

ra0044 · 04-03-2020 03:51PM

topper75 wrote: »

Well one point of my post was dual usage. Why not a bigger version in Dublin? For the imaginatively-challenged I should also provide the stalls shot:

Just do a google image search for Limerick market and imagine bigger. I propose Smithfields plaza but local Dubs may have better ideas.

Cork's English market is too Victorian a model for 2020 Dublin.

That tent / cover with the market underneath it would be a great idea for the " wolfetone park " space between Jervis Street and Wolfetone street only 5 mins from Moore street. A very under utilised space which is crying out for reinvention.

Moore street itself is just an ugly street ruined by 80s development and a long neglected historical prescence. The time yo save the street was before they tore the character out of it with the ilac and later the moore street mall. All hope of a character filled street disapeared.

Muahahaha · 04-03-2020 04:16PM

Moore street really needs a kick up the hole. Id love to see a food night market there in the summer evenings with lots of different ethnic food for sale. Line the entire centre of the street with long communal tables and chairs and let people choose from whatever stalls they want to eat from.

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Dr. Colossus · 04-03-2020 04:33PM

I don't think there is a future for any sort of market on Moore street.
You have Lidl at the top of the street, Aldi around the corner and 2 Dunnes stores in the Ilac centre. Too much competition.

A covered market like the English market in Cork could work, but it would need strict quality control.

04-03-2020 04:36PM

fryup wrote: »

example A...

Disagree. Brendan O'Carroll is a naturally funny guy, with genuine wit.

04-03-2020 04:38PM

stoneill wrote: »

People like that are ten for fifty.

TEN FAR FEEEEF-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 04-03-2020 05:10PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Haven't been to the Limerick one yet.

Belfast's St Georges Market is very good.

Cork is a poky place full of butchers / fishmongers and rest of the stalls are overpriced tourist traps. Stinks a fair bit and none too clean pay toilets. Overated for what it is.

There are lots of stalls in the English Market that don’t cater to tourists. Lots of locals shop there.

MarkY91 · 04-03-2020 06:02PM

topper75 wrote: »

Well one point of my post was dual usage. Why not a bigger version in Dublin? For the imaginatively-challenged I should also provide the stalls shot:

Just do a google image search for Limerick market and imagine bigger. I propose Smithfields plaza but local Dubs may have better ideas.

Cork's English market is too Victorian a model for 2020 Dublin.

Now this is a market. I'd love something like this in Dublin.

Moore Street is NOT a market.

Previous posters mentioned a covered Street with food stalls selling meals from all over the world and seating areas. That sounds great..w lot like market areas in Asia.

whisky_galore · 04-03-2020 07:13PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

There are lots of stalls in the English Market that don’t cater to tourists. Lots of locals shop there.

It's still overrated. And it still stinks.
Can't swing a cat in there it's so cramped.

elperello · 04-03-2020 08:12PM

This market is in Cascais a town near Lisbon.

The high roof is the key factor in these type of buildings.

Removalist · 04-03-2020 08:55PM

The market on La Rambla is very nice, I forget the name of it.

elperello · 04-03-2020 10:13PM

Removalist wrote: »

The market on La Rambla is very nice, I forget the name of it.

Yes that's the sort of thing.

http://www.boqueria.barcelona/

arybvtcw0eolkf · 04-03-2020 11:30PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Moore street really needs a kick up the hole. Id love to see a food night market there in the summer evenings with lots of different ethnic food for sale. Line the entire centre of the street with long communal tables and chairs and let people choose from whatever stalls they want to eat from.

Something like the Camden Lock market (London) would be brilliant and I could see that being a success in Moore Street

TheW1zard · 05-03-2020 12:16AM

Leandro Better Xenophobia wrote: »

Something like the Camden Lock market (London) would be brilliant and I could see that being a success in Moore Street

Where would i get me bleedin smokes an all dat

ozmo · 05-03-2020 12:58AM

bobbyss wrote: »

Feeling like a vitiman c fix I was picking ten mandarins at the stall. There were plenty of green and rotten ones I noticed. 'If you want to pick your own go to a supermarket' she said but her tone was 'Fock Off outta here' . She lost a customer.

I had this same experience - wanted to give them a bit of business and she let a roar at me when I was reaching to pick one myself. Ruining her display apparently - she had the less than perfect ones in a bag to sell.

Bought a plastic packaged tray of donut peaches instead, which where amazing - but kind of defeats the point and probably could have bought them anywhere.

TallyRand · 05-03-2020 01:21AM

Moore street and the traders in it are from another day, nothing you can do when certian things are of a time and no rose tinted glasses will bring back “the feeling”, totally passed its sell by date (literally) and does look terrible, I’ve both sides of my family from the inner city but you can’t deny how well markets are done in London, Europe compared the Henry street area which at Christmas really is an embrassment where the traders look at the pitch next door and if they’re doing well he’ll sell the same and then same with next pitch and so on

nearly every stall was selling the same knock off perfumes a couple of years ago and it’s such an aggressive clique as is that won’t be easy to convert to something a little more appealing

padd b1975 · 05-03-2020 06:02AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

The legendary Dublin wit is just that; a legend. Lot of the ‘True Blue’ Dub sorts are some of the unfunniest pain-in-the-hole creatures you’ll meet in the country.

The pigeon walk is pretty funny in fairness.

In fact the total 'gimp' of most of them is hilarious.

ozmo · 05-03-2020 12:40PM

The market that runs in Templebar (in the square beside the cinema) is very well done...
link

imme · 05-03-2020 01:06PM

elperello wrote: »

This market is in Cascais a town near Lisbon.

The high roof is the key factor in these type of buildings.

Moore street is used too much as a short cut, as a thoroughfare to have the same kind of cohesiveness that a destination market like the photo you link to would have.

elperello · 05-03-2020 09:35PM

imme wrote: »

Moore street is used too much as a short cut, as a thoroughfare to have the same kind of cohesiveness that a destination market like the photo you link to would have.

I more pointing out the sort of thing that works all over Europe than suggesting that as an answer to Moore Street.

As others have said it may be too late to save Moore Street but Dublin could still have a really good market.

John_Rambo · 06-03-2020 01:33AM

John_Rambo wrote: »

Really? You've never seen a city market or bazaar off the main street of a capital city?

MarkY91 wrote: »

Nope

Take a trip. Start local. A mart in the West coast of Ireland might suit you.

Then expand... Hit Europe, Spain, Germany... Keep it safe, maybe Barcelona.

THEN... Tentatively touch East. Start with spicy but safe Turkey, but don't go all snowflake.. you might get a offended!!!

THEN... if you're ready. You could hit other continents. I'm going to warn you here and now. You may get upset with the haggling, you have to make it good for you and the seller. It's different from continent to continent, you have to read up on the cultural differences and in some cases read the dynamics and make it out on your own.

I'm just after having (another) baby in the Rotunda and hit the traders to stock up on fruit. Good fresh produce, free banana for one of the older girls, nice apples and oranges for the kids, and the warmest, wholehearted best wishes from the traders. x

Muahahaha · 06-03-2020 01:51AM

TallyRand wrote: »

I’ve both sides of my family from the inner city but you can’t deny how well markets are done in London, Europe compared the Henry street area which at Christmas really is an embrassment where the traders look at the pitch next door and if they’re doing well he’ll sell the same and then same with next pitch and so on

yeah whatever about Moore St those Christmas market stalls on Henry St are an abomination. I dont get either how the power horses of the street like Arnotts, Ilac and Jervis SCs allow it to happen. Must also be a killer for shops who pay their rates year round and then in swan a group of people with casual trading licenses for the busiest retail period of the year. The idea of a Christmas market is a good one but not selling the tack and knock offs that they do, it certainly doesnt attract people to the street and if anything puts people off.

elperello wrote: »

I more pointing out the sort of thing that works all over Europe than suggesting that as an answer to Moore Street.

As others have said it may be too late to save Moore Street but Dublin could still have a really good market.

Luckily the Fruit Market in Smithfield is finally getting re-developed. Its probably 2-3 years before it re-opens but when it does there is space inside it for around 50-60 food stalls under a roof in an old Victorian building. That will be a game changer for markets in Dublin when it happens, it'll be a proper venue that is busy during the day and at night time too.

MarkY91 · 06-03-2020 09:13AM

John_Rambo wrote: »

Take a trip. Start local. A mart in the West coast of Ireland might suit you.

Then expand... Hit Europe, Spain, Germany... Keep it safe, maybe Barcelona.

THEN... Tentatively touch East. Start with spicy but safe Turkey, but don't go all snowflake.. you might get a offended!!!

THEN... if you're ready. You could hit other continents. I'm going to warn you here and now. You may get upset with the haggling, you have to make it good for you and the seller. It's different from continent to continent, you have to read up on the cultural differences and in some cases read the dynamics and make it out on your own.

I'm just after having (another) baby in the Rotunda and hit the traders to stock up on fruit. Good fresh produce, free banana for one of the older girls, nice apples and oranges for the kids, and the warmest, wholehearted best wishes from the traders. x

I've been to markets all over the world..from Jerusalem to Kuala Lumpur. I love markets. I try to visit them anywhere I go. You're right about haggling..I'm not good at it so I tend to just buy things with price tags lol.

John_Rambo · 06-03-2020 03:55PM

MarkY91 wrote: »

I've been to markets all over the world..from Jerusalem to Kuala Lumpur. I love markets. I try to visit them anywhere I go. You're right about haggling..I'm not good at it so I tend to just buy things with price tags lol.

From having never seen a market off a main street in a capital city to visiting them all over the world in a day!! Well done Gulliver! (or Walter)

MarkY91 · 06-03-2020 05:22PM

John_Rambo wrote: »

From having never seen a market off a main street in a capital city to visiting them all over the world in a day!! Well done Gulliver! (or Walter)

I have never seen a scruffy market 10 seconds away from a capital cities main Street. Why is that so hard to grasp?

andekwarhola · 06-03-2020 05:29PM

Haven't bought anything there for years. Don't remember the traders being particularly rude or myself being viscerally offended by them.

Like a lot of things, those kind of markets are a basic service that have been rendered obsolete by supermarket chains, unless they have one of those artisan or farmer angles.

Grumpy Moore Street Traders

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