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Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

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  • #6992
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Not theoretical, lesions showing in patients , lesions are damage which can cause infertility
    Really? I didn't read the article, just an abstract, which prompted the thought. I'm surprised more isn't being made of that, tbh.


  • #6993
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    So you've ruled out sepsis, seriously don't **** around with blood poisoning it will kill you at best you'll lose a limb. Your a perfect candidate for it considering your symptoms. I don't think people realise how many people it kills every year in Ireland roughly running at around 15,000 deaths a year here with a mortality rate of about 15%.

    You are not buying this are you? I think it's complete attention seeking and lies.
    I'm sick but the hse won't ring me back. Over and over.

    In fairness it's not on.


  • #6994
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Latest update on what it's like in parts of South Korea, and a bit about 3 'unexplained' cases in the US west...


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51685908

    The video about how germs spread and how to wash hands correctly is great. It’s only a minute long so worth watching. Hope this embeds.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/embed/p084zgch/51685908"


  • #6995
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    creditcarder wrote: »
    I imagine the virus has a lower fatility rate than 2 percent as most people seem to be unaffected.

    The mortality figures from China for those infected with covid 19 who have other conditions…

    13.2% for those with cardiovascular disease
    9.2% for diabetes
    8.4% for hypertension
    8.0% for chronic respiratory disease
    7.6% for cancer

    https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf


  • #6996
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    should i decline handshakes?


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  • #6997
    Ubbquittious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    blade1 wrote: »
    I assume most don't care about the 98% that will be fine.
    It's being in the 2% is the problem.
    You can't be happy for the 98% if you're dead :)

    The odds of winning the euromillions doesn't stop the amount of people doing it.

    A lot of the 98 have to grit through quite an unpleasant illness for a few weeks. Something id rather avoid


  • #6998
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    iguana wrote: »
    Do we know yet if this affects pre-pubescent children? Or does the apparent fact that the virus is mild for children offer protection to young boys?

    This is what’s be reported

    Age of Coronavirus Deaths
    COVID-19 Fatality Rate by AGE:

    *Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on the age group. The percentage shown below does NOT represent in any way the share of deaths by age group. Rather, it represents, for a person in a given age group, the risk of dying if infected with COVID-19.

    AGE
    DEATH RATE
    confirmed cases
    DEATH RATE
    all cases
    80+ years old
    21.9%
    14.8%
    70-79 years old
    8.0%
    60-69 years old
    3.6%
    50-59 years old
    1.3%
    40-49 years old
    0.4%
    30-39 years old
    0.2%
    20-29 years old
    0.2%
    10-19 years old
    0.2%
    0-9 years old
    no fatalities


  • #6999
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    branie2 wrote: »
    The sign of peace at mass has been suspended - good idea

    If you're in close proximity to an infected person, how will not shaking hands stop this?


  • #7000
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    MarkY91 wrote: »
    The stats show that my age bracket (29) is 0.2%. I guess the 2% is for every age bracket combined?

    **Not trying to downplay anything. I have elderly people that I'm concerned for. What I mean is for myself and most people I know have little to be worried about**

    Well if you get it none of here will lose any sleep.


  • #7001
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    This is what’s be reported


    *Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on the age group. The percentage shown below does NOT represent in any way the share of deaths by age group. Rather, it represents, for a person in a given age group, the risk of dying if infected with COVID-19.

    I mean more in terms of non-lethal health risk, like the renal and testicular damage. It's probably not something we have any reliable data on at this stage but I'm wondering if any of the patients with renal damage or testicular lesions are children. Or if the apparent fact that children have a mild illness may protect them against other long-term damage too.


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  • #7002
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    tromtipp wrote: »
    That Dr John Campbell Youtube from yesterday included a recap and update on research so far and had a few interesting points:

    People who infect others without themselves seeming ill are usually (maybe always, they don't know yet) presymptomatic rather than asymptomatic.

    The virus is stable, as is SARS, so people who have had it once will have acquired immunity (Dr C didn't say so, but that seems to increase the chance of a vaccine).

    He wonders is the high death rate in Iran is caused by inappropriate treatment with steroids. He also noted that Iran did call off Friday prayers yesterday. Saudi has closed its pilgrimage sites.

    He is sceptical of people getting re-infected - the condition is relapsing for some time after the intital infection which may be causing confusion.


    That isn't exactly good news, but seems to have some crumbs of hope. The relapsing thing, and the long incubation period, make me think the HSE or someone should be reminding young fit people not to exercise while they have an infection in their system. I've known four people to die from doing that, three runners, one footballer. Sometimes from heart problems, one from sudden massive sepsis. If you do get ill, rest, and take your time getting back to your exercise routine.

    Oh, and Dr John said the dog in Hong Kong wasn't contagious.

    I had pneumonia last year which was misdiagnosed so I kept doing excercise which made it worse. What I’ve learned is that excercise is bad and can make you worse when you are unwell. Not rocket science I know but the same apppies here. Doctor john in one of his earlier videos said that rest is vital if you get the virus. Straight to bed and no strenuous activity. Rest your heart as much as possible


  • #7003
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,999 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    I see.

    is that + or - 10?

    Was the extra 0 at the end for effect? Or did you mean 450 million people?

    Sigh, I need to ban myself from this thread again.

    Getting smart over an obvious typo. Yeah why don't you - and while you are at it, you can go and unthank all of the snow photos of mine you liked, if you wouldn't mind. Thanks.

    And those figures are from the WHO guy who went to Wuhan. https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/25/new-data-from-china-buttress-fears-about-high-coronavirus-fatality-rate-who-expert-says/


  • #7004
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Potaoes. flour eggs... whatever you would normally buy for 2 weeks

    And pet food if you have one

    and OTC meds eg paracetamol

    And failing that a big pot to cook the pet.


  • #7005
    Osborne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭Osborne


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    You are not buying this are you? I think it's complete attention seeking and lies.
    I'm sick but the hse won't ring me back. Over and over.

    In fairness it's not on.

    Did you not see the massive gash on his leg?


  • #7006
    1641
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭1641


    I see that to control infection spread we have been advised to "avoid shaking hands, hugging, and kissing".

    That must be a relief to Tinder.


  • #7007
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    And failing that a big pot to cook the pet.

    that's what got us into this mess! People eating cats and dogs


  • #7008
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Osborne wrote: »
    Did you not see the massive gash on his leg?

    Post a new photo Runaways. Stick a little note saying hello to the boardsies so we know you’re genuine.

    Don’t take it from the jacks though :P


  • #7009
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    that's what got us into this mess! People eating cats and dogs

    Thought it was eating bats?


  • #7010
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,803 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    And failing that a big pot to cook the pet.

    A typical boardsie looking back on 2020 in years to come:



  • #7011
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Getting smart over an obvious typo. Yeah why don't you - and while you are at it, you can go and unthank all of the snow photos of mine you liked, if you wouldn't mind. Thanks.

    And those figures are from the WHO guy who went to Wuhan. https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/25/new-data-from-china-buttress-fears-about-high-coronavirus-fatality-rate-who-expert-says/

    That link is full of figures. None of them are 450m or 45m. What is the figure you intended to post? 45m or 450m?

    I am surprised how I am the only person to question your 450,000,000 number. Actually I am not surprised.

    And I'll unthank nothing :P


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  • #7012
    Beanybabog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭Beanybabog


    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/29/to-hell-and-back-my-three-weeks-suffering-from-coronavirus

    This is a good article. Apologies if it’s been posted already. Its the first account I’ve seen from someone who had it I think


  • #7013
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Osborne wrote: »
    Did you not see the massive gash on his leg?

    The gash that wasn't there 2days ago. No I didn't see it.
    Where do you live runways guy. Il come up and visit. Il bring sweets


  • #7014
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    This is what’s be reported

    Age of Coronavirus Deaths
    COVID-19 Fatality Rate by AGE:

    *Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on the age group. The percentage shown below does NOT represent in any way the share of deaths by age group. Rather, it represents, for a person in a given age group, the risk of dying if infected with COVID-19....

    I think most people are aware of the *death statistics for the Coronavirus.

    However children can catch COVID-19, though some early statistics suggest they may be less likely to catch the virus than adults are. As of Wednesday (Feb. 26), Italy had diagnosed 400 cases of COVID-19, including five cases in children ages 4 to 19. A Chinese study from Hubei province found that of more than 44,000 cases of COVID-19, about 2.2% involved children under age 19.

    However, it has been proposed that the number of diagnosed coronavirus cases in children may be an underestimate — in case studies from China, children seemed less likely to develop severe disease. Thus, it's possible that many children could be infected and passing the disease along, without showing many, or any, symptoms. 

    According to Lancet an asymptomatic child (aged 10 years) in China was diagnosed with the virus exhibited damage to lung tissues with radiological detection of ground-glass lung opacities. 


  • #7015
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,972 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    First case of community infection in the U.K. Not surprising really and how we in the Republic of Ireland haven't had a confirmed case yet is amazing.


  • #7016
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    should i decline handshakes?

    Peace be with you


  • #7017
    juno10353
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭juno10353


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    So you've ruled out sepsis, seriously don't **** around with blood poisoning it will kill you at best you'll lose a limb. Your a perfect candidate for it considering your symptoms. I don't think people realise how many people it kills every year in Ireland roughly running at around 15,000 deaths a year here with a mortality rate of about 15%.

    Agree with above. Sepsis is a potential killer, and your immune system would be low having finished antibiotics whilst away. Get answers now.


  • #7018
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Getting serious in Italy now. Italian's love their football and wouldn't have done this without knowledge of how bad this will get. Just as well they don't have Luke O'Neill advising them as they'd be in a much worse state and just plow on regardless

    https://twitter.com/brfootball/status/1233719347270574081


  • #7019
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    Runaways wrote: »
    Right here. Thanks for the concern. They never called. I’m still in a heap. Last night was a genuine nightmare.
    Gonna call again today and not hang up til I get to speak to someone.
    Be back with whatever happens.


    I hope you don't lose your leg, or die, or worse, but I did kind of laugh while reading your posts. I feel like it's such an irish response.



    Yeah, I cut my leg. Have a flue. Throat closed up. Leaking pus. Can't eat. Yeah, bit of a nightmare, might die.



    Might as well go to the doctor I guess :P


    I remember being in Ireland and the fear of a a pain related ailment hitting at night where the doctors were closed


  • #7020
    imfml
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭imfml


    Think of all the elderly who will be isolated by family staying away, to protect them :/


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  • #7021
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    First case of community infection in the U.K. Not surprising really and how we in the Republic of Ireland haven't had a confirmed case yet is amazing.

    Not really you are not going to find something you are not looking for.

    HSE are useless fookers.


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