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Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

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  • #5312
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    A virus might cull the numbers considerably, that will help in the fight against climate change. Every cloud..... silver lining etc.

    all old people too... boon to the state's health and pension balance sheets..


  • #5313
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    YFlyer wrote: »
    What is the name of the company?

    That is a huge amount of masks within that time period. You sure that's correct?

    3174 masks per person per day if it's a 7 day week. Probably doable as I reckon the process is heavily automated.


  • #5314
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    Thats the point.

    The Independent states
    Passengers on the Dublin to Belfast train in which she travelled have also been notified

    Sounds like we're giving Chinese State broadcasts a run for their money. As if anyone believes that.


  • #5315
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    YFlyer wrote: »
    What is the name of the company?

    That is a huge amount of masks within that time period. You sure that's correct?

    Maybe Irema?


  • #5316
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,337 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    The Dept of Health talking heads on TV refused not say if it was the train or the bus or even what day she traveled on.

    This complete lack of transparency may spook anyone who traveled the route recently.

    They said they contacted those who needed to be contacted.


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  • #5317
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,408 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    lawred2 wrote: »
    all old people too... boon to the state's health and pension balance sheets..

    Yes. That's why the gubberment are sitting on their hands on this one versus foot and mouth disease. They don't have to pay compensation for dead people, only dead cows.
    *takes off tin foil hat and resumes normal operations*

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #5318
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,810 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    antodeco wrote: »
    Sure they said they will only be contacting people who sat "within 2 rows" of them. Because obviously thats how planes work.

    Sick Person buys a drink and hands over cash to steward.
    Steward visits vast majority of people. They are now possibly infected
    Sick Person goes to the toilet.
    Other people use that same toilet and return to their seat. They are now possibly infected
    Sick Person, whilst putting their bag in the overhead bin, moves your bag. You are now possibly infected

    I really hope they contacted everyone on that flight, and everyone who got the train she got on. Assuming everyone was registered and pre-paid.

    Otherwise if they are stick to the "2 row" rule, thats probably about 10 people.

    Bit surprised airline staff haven't kicked up about serving on flights in and out of North Italy. I'd be pretty nervous about it...


  • #5319
    timmyntc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,609 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    3174 masks per person per day if it's a 7 day week. Probably doable as I reckon the process is heavily automated.

    They'll surely be taking on more staff if they're to run 24/7.


  • #5320
    tara73
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭tara73


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    It's bizarre. It's almost like nobody knew about what had happened in China and just thought fcuk it sure be grand like. I guess people are very self centred even up until yesterday people moaning about the rugby match being cancelled.


    yes, the german health minister speaking on the main 8 o'clock news yesterday clearly was gasping..he rambled about there are plans!, useless theoretical written out plans probably, put in place in every hospital... then he said there are no masks available anymore in whole Germany as they were all sold to China...now there are plans (again plans..) to confiscate anything to be exported...... whole mess it is already.
    hand sanitisers are starting to be sold out too here..


  • #5321
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,408 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    MadYaker wrote: »
    They said they contacted those who needed to be contacted.

    Their basis for "who needs to be contacted" seems a bit arbitrary.

    How is someone who sat 2 rows behind the infected person more at risk than someone who used the same toilet, given that they know it can be transmitted surface to surface...

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • #5322
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    lawred2 wrote: »
    all old people too... boon to the state's health and pension balance sheets..

    For those smug millenials//zoomers with the ‘I’m all right Jack’ attitude who make disgusting comments here about “culling the herd of the coffin dodgers” etc. and “Shure it’s OK for the older people to get the virus and die”

    Viruses tend to change and mutate with time and although they usually become more benign when they do… with a tiny mutation in their RNA they could equally become more lethal for ANY age group.


  • #5323
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,274 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    tara73 wrote: »
    yes, the german health minister speaking on the main 8 o'clock news yesterday clearly was gasping..he rambled about there are plans!, useless theoretical written out plans probably, put in place in every hospital... then he said there are no masks available anymore in whole Germany as they were all sold to China...now there are plans (again plans..) to confiscate anything to be exported...... whole mess it is already.
    hand sanitisers are starting to be sold out too here..




    That's mad, I was delighted to hear the HSE had such big orders of masks/gloves etc. they did mention procurement issues but over came them.


  • #5324
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I think it’s time to manufacture homemade hand sanitizer and set up an eBay shop.

    Who’s got the recipe? I was only assigned food in the other thread.


  • #5325
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    .


  • #5326
    Le Bruise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭Le Bruise


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    It's bizarre. It's almost like nobody knew about what had happened in China and just thought fcuk it sure be grand like. I guess people are very self centred even up until yesterday people moaning about the rugby match being cancelled.

    It’s been accepted that the match has been cancelled, the only argument I could see was that the flights that’ll bring the Italian supporters over (and they will come) are still running. This makes it a bit futile.

    You do seem to have a bee in your bonnet about rugby though?


  • #5327
    Runaways
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Runaways


    HSE now running ads in Facebook

    If you have returned from a country or region with spread of COVID-19 (#coronavirus) visit our website for advice.

    http://bit.ly/2VmlfjY


  • #5328
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,738 ✭✭✭✭josip


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    How could they tell. A good percentage of people would buy tickets at the machines some with cash.


    Always use your knuckles for those machines or opening Dart doors.


  • #5329
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Dotsie~tmp wrote: »
    Fingers crossed youre one of them. I think your carbon footprint is to large comrade. Off to the Soylent Green machine with you.

    Hope you choke on me. ;-)


  • #5330
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Cupatae wrote: »
    .
    This is the most balanced post on this thread so far.


  • #5331
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    For those smug millenials//zoomers with the ‘I’m all right Jack’ attitude who make disgusting comments here about “culling the herd of the coffin dodgers” etc. and “Shure it’s OK for the older people to get the virus and die”

    Viruses tend to change and mutate with time and although they usually become more benign when they do… with a tiny mutation in their RNA they could equally become more lethal for ANY age group.

    Yeah there has been a fair share of that on here and on social media in general last few weeks. Despicable actually.


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  • #5332
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    bennyineire wrote: »
    Any news on the media blackout this morning :P
    Apologies but we are not at liberty to disclose...




    :pac:


  • #5333
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,738 ✭✭✭✭josip


    tara73 wrote: »
    yes, the german health minister speaking on the main 8 o'clock news yesterday clearly was gasping..he rambled about there are plans!, useless theoretical written out plans probably, put in place in every hospital... then he said there are no masks available anymore in whole Germany as they were all sold to China...now there are plans (again plans..) to confiscate anything to be exported...... whole mess it is already.
    hand sanitisers are starting to be sold out too here..


    Was he gasping or grasping?
    It's an important difference in this context.


  • #5334
    Marcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Marcos


    celt262 wrote: »
    Do they know how the virus got into Italy ?

    AFAIK it's been linked to a Chinese couple from Wuhan who went on holiday to Italy on January 23rd. Just before Wuhan was locked down. They're currently being treated in Rome.

    Link here. It's behind a paywall so I've c & p'd relevant parts of the article.
    The coronavirus outbreak spreading across Europe has been linked to two Chinese tourists who fell ill with it in Italy in January after flying from Wuhan, where the epidemic began.

    A senior Italian health official investigating the origin of Italy’s outbreak, which has killed 11 and infected over 300 and is now infecting people across the continent, told The Times there was a “concrete hypothesis” that the Chinese couple were the cause.

    “Right now it’s the only certain piece of hard data we have,” said Marino Faccini, the head of Milan’s infectious diseases team, which is investigating the outbreak.

    Mr Faccini noted that the couple — a man aged 66 and his 65 year old wife — visited Parma in Italy during their January visit, taking them close to 10 towns in Lombardy which have been placed in quarantine after hundreds of cases emerged there at the end of last week. Both Chinese tourists are from Wuhan, where the virus first emerged.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • #5335
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    MadYaker wrote: »
    They said they contacted those who needed to be contacted.

    There are no passenger lists on buses or trains.

    With their total lack of transparency (about even the date) they are potentially spooking anyone who went from Dublin Airport to Belfast recently on public transport.


  • #5336
    Runaways
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Runaways


    Technical briefing on the coronavirus in Ireland | Read more: — RTÉ News (@rtenews) February 28, 2020 This morning. Via RTÉ Chief Medical Officer Dr Tony Holohan told RTÉ News that the individual who was infected came forward and followed the instructions given by health authorities. The individual followed advice in reporting concerns to a GP and "self isolated" at home whilst awaiting the results of testing. [ 39 more words ]
    https://www.broadsheet.ie/2020/02/28/everyone-who-needs-to-be-contacted-has-been-contacted/


  • #5337
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Pay freezes for those working with easyJet
    Meanwhile, EasyJet is also to introduce a pay freeze as part of a cost-cutting drive.

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-fears-dow-jones-tumbles-by-1-200-points-in-a-single-day-its-biggest-fall-ever-11945049


  • #5338
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    There is no passenger lists on buses or trains.

    With their total lack of transparency (about even the date) they are potentially spooking anyone who went from Dublin Airport to Belfast recently on public transport.

    If there was a confirmed case and he/she was on a confined plane for 3-4 hours with other people, its already here and its already spread its just a matter of time.


  • #5339
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,440 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Get a bottle of aloe vera gel (suncream shelf or bodyshop etc) and a bottle of medical alcohol (don't be tempted!!). Add some tea tree oil (body shop) and some cucumber gel (bodyshop). Play around with the ratios until you have something you can use practically in small plastic bottles or cleaned out soap dispenser bottles. You can add a small bit of food gelatin to stiffen it up if needs be.


  • #5340
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    For those smug millenials//zoomers with the ‘I’m all right Jack’ attitude who make disgusting comments here about “culling the herd of the coffin dodgers” etc. and “Shure it’s OK for the older people to get the virus and die”

    Viruses tend to change and mutate with time and although they usually become more benign when they do… with a tiny mutation in their RNA they could equally become more lethal for ANY age group.

    People die everyday for a myriad of reasons. The 'regular flu' kills 650,000 worldwide every year.
    People are more mobile now more than any other point in history, making the spread of illness far quicker.
    Worrying and driving oneself into a panic of what it's changes nothing, neither does trying to sit atop what you perceive to be the high moral ground.


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  • #5341
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    YFlyer wrote: »
    What is the name of the company?

    That is a huge amount of masks within that time period. You sure that's correct?

    Didn't catch the name but will be on the podcast online once it's uploaded. Was about ten to 7 this morning on newstalk so whatever show that was


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