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Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭ressem


    I would like to think (hope?) that the average person would wash their hands a lot more than 3 times a day even before coronavirus existed...

    They splash a second or two of water on them and consider them washed.

    The health service and A&E would be quieter all year round if people did the basics.
    Wet hands, apply soap, allow soap to remain on your hands for 20 seconds. Rinse off.
    Doesn't need to be a fancy soap /alcohol.

    https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/novel-coronavirus-guidelines-non-pharmaceutical-measures_0.pdf
    Personal protective measures
    Personal protective measures refer to hand and respiratory hygiene, cough etiquette and use of respirators or facemasks.
    Hand hygiene
    The risk of transmitting or acquiring 2019-nCoV infection can be reduced by the correct application of hand hygiene. Hand hygiene refers to the frequent washing of hands with soap and water or cleaning of hands with
    alcoholic solutions, gels or tissues. Hands should be washed regularly using soap and water for 20−40 seconds [8].
    Alcohol-based hand sanitisers provide limited added benefit over soap and water in community settings, and if used should contain 60−85% alcohol [8,9]. If hands are soiled, soap and water should precede the use of alcohol based hand sanitisers.
    Since the 2019-nCoV virus can be transmitted by direct contact through droplets or indirectly through hand-mediated transfer of respiratory or possibly other secretions, we recommend applying
    hand-hygiene measures in all community settings (home, schools, workplaces, etc.) during all phases of the epidemic. Proper hand hygiene would also prevent the transmission of other communicable diseases.
    In healthcare settings, proper hand hygiene will need to be performed immediately before and after contact with a patient, before wearing or removing personal protective equipment (PPE) and after contact with potentially infectious material, such as respiratory or other secretions. The same applies to patients or people caring for patients at home.
    Recommending hand hygiene is considered to be a rational precaution, involving limited costs and no significant
    associated risks. Its effectiveness is likely to increase in combination with other measures (e.g. facemasks used in healthcare settings). The effectiveness of hand hygiene depends on the ability to ensure that people comply,
    through appropriate and repeated training and an adequate and regular supply of soap, tissues and alcohol-based hand sanitisers.
    Cough etiquette
    Cough etiquette refers to covering the mouth and nose when coughing and sneezing (e.g. using a paper tissue or cloth handkerchief) with the aim of reducing person-to-person transmission through droplets which are a known
    mode of transmission for coronaviruses.
    Cough etiquette is widely recommended in public health guidelines for all community settings (home, schools, workplaces, healthcare settings, etc.) at all times. Supply of materials (e.g. tissues, no-touch waste bins, etc.)
    needs to be ensured. It is important that tissues are properly disposed of immediately after the use and hands are then washed with soap and water, as described in the hand hygiene section of this document.

    Health service is probably taking guidance from the likes of..
    https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/all-topics-z/coronavirus/threats-and-outbreaks/covid-19/preparedness-and-response-covid-19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    scotchy wrote: »
    Quick question.
    I have a bar of fruit and nut in my food stockpile, is it OK to eat it now? Or do I have to wait for a Corona case in the Republic?
    :o

    Thants the sort of panic that will be the death of us :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    scotchy wrote: »
    Quick question.
    I have a bar of fruit and nut in my food stockpile, is it OK to eat it now? Or do I have to wait for a Corona case in the Republic?
    :o

    Save the nuts man, save the nuts. Protein and fat. Fatty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,635 ✭✭✭appledrop


    I knew that it would come here + you cant prevent it.

    However what I have a major issue with is when a case is confirmed every other country takes it extremely seriously + isolated the person + anyone in contact with them. However our chief medicial officer has just come out and said nothing will change+ they aren't going to even bother contacting everyone on the plane.

    Let's be honest they haven't a hope of hell of managing this in health service so I actually believe they dont want everyone tested hoping some goes under radar because they will have nowhere to put all the cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,006 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Good time to buy.

    Buy low, sell high.

    Proceed with extreme caution.
    Economist El-Erian Says Don’t Buy the Dip, Coronavirus Will ‘Paralyze China’
    https://moneyandmarkets.com/mohamed-el-erian-dont-buy-coronavirus-dip-china/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    Tomato1 wrote: »
    Not all of us are computer toucher's for a living.
    I work for NAS and am a bit ****in concerned right now.


    Still have not been issued masks or flu kits.
    Haven't heard any update or guidelines/advice since about 3 weeks ago.


    Zero communication from upper management.


    NAS management is pisspoor and corrupt to the bone. They give no ****s. Not even the HSE can touch them.
    That incenses me but surprises me not at all, thank you for your incredible bravery in the job that you do. Genuinely. Look out for yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Fireball81


    Clayton Hotel Pearse St appararantkly on lock down, some Italians staying there diagnosed with the virus....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,283 ✭✭✭kenmc


    Within 2 rows? Is that the established practice for this?

    Anyone know?

    So if someone else has it within the two rows they go a further two rows?

    How about the person sitting beside them in the waiting area? Or the folk before and behind them in the check-in queue? The boarding queue.

    Nah, they'll be grand. Soft-landings-r-us


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    o1s1n wrote: »
    How do you collect bins via a computer? Sounds tricky.

    drones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    gmisk wrote: »
    I agree to a degree.
    But I wouldn't rule out some kind of closures for a short time in the future.
    Just look at Japan they are closing all their schools until April.

    Can do that there as the mothers are predominately stay-at-home. Here, closing the schools would just redirect hoards of kids to childcare. So no benefit


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,384 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    I think we need to cool the jets a bit now.

    Alright it is encroaching, but realistically apart from barricading ourselves in our homes with a bag of pasta and a few jars of sauce what can we do?

    Kids need to go to school. School open, ok, we need to get to work, PT working, OK.

    Honestly take precautions like much more hand washing or something, but until we are told to go into home quarantine, most will just carry on.

    I think that any measures to slow down the spread will help our health services cope.

    I keep on mentioning "flatten the curve" because I think it's important. If we don't then people will die, not just from the virus, but from other things as our health system becomes overloaded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    Fireball81 wrote: »
    Clayton Hotel Pearse St appararantkly on lock down, some Italians staying there diagnosed with the virus....

    There is no Clayton hotel on that street AFAIK


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    They should have mandatory quarantine for planes coming from infected countries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Fireball81 wrote: »
    Clayton Hotel Pearse St appararantkly on lock down, some Italians staying there diagnosed with the virus....

    Didn’t we hear this yesterday?


  • Administrators Posts: 55,024 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Oh Lord they probably got a bus from the train to the airport as well. :(

    What?

    People travelling between Belfast and Dublin Airport do not get the train.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Not enough ventilators, not enough beds, not enough staff, not enough doctors, not enough nurses etc...

    Yeah but let's keep letting flights come in from Italy great idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭eeepaulo


    This thread is so addictive.

    Must.... Stop.... Hitting.... Refresh....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,390 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Cupatae wrote: »
    drones.

    Have you ever heard how annoying the buzzing is from one drone flying overhead?

    Remember the vuvuzelas during the world cup? Imagine what a sky full of them would sound like.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,384 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Fireball81 wrote: »
    Clayton Hotel Pearse St appararantkly on lock down, some Italians staying there diagnosed with the virus....

    A few other posters have mentioned this too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,006 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    scotchy wrote: »
    Quick question.
    I have a bar of fruit and nut in my food stockpile, is it OK to eat it now? Or do I have to wait for a Corona case in the Republic?
    :o

    Not safe to eat, you should have bought rum and raisins.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Fireball81 wrote: »
    Clayton Hotel Pearse St appararantkly on lock down, some Italians staying there diagnosed with the virus....

    Oh ****. A disaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,612 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Cupatae wrote: »
    drones.

    call in a drone strike might be one idea to get a handle on this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,680 ✭✭✭Chong


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    A few other posters have mentioned this too.

    I believe it’s the Maldron across from Gertrude restaurant on Pearse St


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Save the nuts man, save the nuts. Protein and fat. Fatty.

    So I was sitting on the bus just reading a book when somebody tapped me on the shoulder.

    I turned around and saw an old lady. She said to me, "Sonny, would you like some nuts? I've got a couple hazelnuts and almonds if you'd like."
    "Sure.", I replied. Then she gave me a handful of nuts and went back to sit with her friends.

    "What a nice lady", I thought, while happily munching on the nuts.
    A few minutes later, I felt another tap on my shoulder and there she was again, offering some nuts. I gladly accepted and she went back to her seat.
    After about 10 minutes, she tapped me on the shoulder, once again offering some nuts.

    I asked her, "Why don't you eat them yourself?"
    "Because we've got no teeth", she replied.
    "Then why do you buy them?", I asked.
    "Oh, because we just love the chocolate around them."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,385 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Can do that there as the mothers are predominately stay-at-home. Here, closing the schools would just redirect hoards of kids to childcare. So no benefit
    Quick Google 70 percent of Japanese mother work.
    Probably higher here true, but still seems like a possibility here to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭Osborne


    Fireball81 wrote: »
    Clayton Hotel Pearse St appararantkly on lock down, some Italians staying there diagnosed with the virus....

    Maldron. Can book a room for €160 tonight. Just checked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    Clayton Hotel again? New material required.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,310 ✭✭✭pad199207


    ALL air travel needs to be stopped or at least screened into all airports. Ditto for Seaports.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Schools are probably the most contagious part I'd imagine especially younger kids and creche as they would have more contact with other kids and parents.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Crikey.

    The Dow Jones index of leading US shares has suffered its biggest points fall in history amid the coronavirus crisis, closing down 1,190.95 in New York.

    As already stated, this is a misleading statistic. It needs to be looked at percentage-wise. It doesn't even make the top 50 at that.


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