Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Actually the videos that came out were ahead of the story and people called them fake almost as reflexively as the chinese government at every stage of the outbreak. There are some bull**** ones and there are idiots who try to interpret and extrapolate baselessly, but most of the imagery itself has been borne out to be true and predictive.

You're just getting loads of people really come online to this now so will be saying a lot of guff so I get that part

True imagery but taken completely out of context, and in most cases nothing to do with covid-9 at all. One video showed a woman on the ground dead from supposedly being shot by police for breaking through a barrier. Turns out the lump on the pavement, the moped on the ground and her dead body were the result of a traffic accident.

otnomart wrote: »

My main worry is undetected cases.
In Italy's first case with no known links to China, 1.5 days in hospital before testing resulted in the Lombardy epicentre with currently approx 250 cases.
The French case was in Creil hospital for 6 days before transfer to Paris and test there.
How many cases will those 6 days generate in the Oise epicentre ?
Scary as Creil is in the commuter area of Paris.

sounds like fear and paranoia, another poster had a good point, flu wipes out at least 100 people in Ireland each year easily preventable and treatable, so far about 100k infected 3k deaths and most in china, and given that recovery rate is 40%+ and well treatable, id like to know more about pre existing conditions like health age etc those had it, but media sells and papers sell on this crap so easier to push fear and paranoia, then rationale.

DrumSteve wrote: »

I'm more than happy to stock up on food and look like a massive thick if this thing blows over; rather than be left short because "ah shure, it'll be grand".

I've got no ego when it comes to this, I do not care how silly I look. Legitimately, the only thing we should care about as a society for the next month are the most vulnerable.

Basically cancel all non-essential activities across the state.

I don't understand this. What is it with irish people and panic buying food? Even in Wuhan in the epicentre of this where thousands have died the supermarkets stayed open and were stocked. If you think it's going be worse than that here you're completely mental. It was the same thing in the "snow" 2 years ago. People cleaned the shops out for no reason, deliveries were barely interupted they just didn't anticipate demand for no reason so they got cleaned out. You don't need to stock up on food and this better safe than sorry attitude is what had the shops cleared out last time.

I thought it was a whole new range of Lad Bible emojis...but no!

"CDC issues beard and mustache guide for coronavirus epidemic"

MadYaker wrote: »

I don't understand this. What is it with irish people and panic buying food? Even in Wuhan in the epicentre of this where thousands have died the supermarkets stayed open and were stocked. If you think it's going be worse than that here you're completely mental. It was the same thing in the "snow" 2 years ago. People cleaned the shops out for no reason, deliveries were barely interupted they just didn't anticipate demand for no reason so they got cleaned out. You don't need to stock up on food and this better safe than sorry attitude is what had the shops cleared out last time.

It's the clamour for bread I don't understand. I might have bread once a week? Maybe less even...

Is it really that big a staple in our diets that it's the first thing that sells out? Not like it has a long shelf life...

BanditLuke wrote: »

And that's in a region with an outstanding health service.

might as well be graph for death rate on m50 for the week or Dublin city.


point is in 14million city under 3k deaths over 2 months % wise in few billion population country its in deep 0.0000% territory, while the spread is real but if they can manage it million plus square mile territory seems over hyped, as total death toll WW is not even remotely close to flu vaccinated or not.

Death toll in Italy rises to 17

3 more deaths reported.

tillyfilly wrote: »

All my dreams came true this evening , I picked up the last bottle of Dettol in the local shop, I've never won anything in my life, thrilled!

Yeah drink that, you'll have zero chance of catching Corona.

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

My mother still buys extra bread and the like around Christmas. The shops are only closed for one day.

The biggest problem we're going to face in Ireland with this virus is shops running out of stock and emergency departments being clogged up thanks to people completely and utterly losing the run of themselves.

I suspect it's because we don't have regular extreme weather events here like they do in lots of other parts of the world where people have to stock up and stay indoors for a few days so were just not used to dealing with this sort of thing. It's an interesting social experiment though. I think I've learned that dumb people are more prone to panicking and social media is a disaster for the human race.

MadYaker wrote: »

It's only more infectious because nobody is vaccinated. We have no idea what the actual death rate is at this point so you can't say that its higher than regular flu. People will post numbers on twitter but there's a method that is used to determine the mortality rate and it's too early in this outbreak to do that yet. People don't necesarily require hospitalistion as most who get this won't be very ill but they do need to be quarantined to stop them infecting others and that generally happens in a hospital.

It's only more infectious because people aren't vaccinated?
Well that doesn't really change anything, does it? Still highly infectious.

It is too early to give an exact death rate, but the experts are estimating it at 1-2%.
The hospitalisation rate is about 18%. They generally require help breathing.

People keep talking about 100 flu deaths a year as if there's no chance we'll hit that number.
If this becomes an out of control pandemic then 50% of the Irish population could get the virus. That's 2.4 million people.
If we take the low end of the death rate 1%, then that would equate to 24,000 deaths and absolute havoc in our hospitals.

This is a much bigger deal than the typical flu. Read some articles from relaible sources and come back to me.

el Fenomeno wrote: »

It's the clamour for bread I don't understand. I might have bread once a week? Maybe less even...

Is it really that big a staple in our diets that it's the first thing that sells out? Not like it has a long shelf life...

It's the choice of idiots who live on "chipper". They'll be the first to starve, no harm.

tillyfilly wrote: »

I've noticed the birds are getting very antsy around my place , do they know something we don't?

Yeah, they have worked out it's Spring in bird time.