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Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

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  • #1502
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    billybonkers wrote: »
    Tempted to book the cheap flights to Italy for a one day trip just for the two weeks off work

    Sshhhh, don’t tell everyone....


  • #1503
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,385 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    So, I see that some sports organisation is getting a bit annoyed about events being cancelled.

    They even see fit to meet one of our ministers.

    How dare they put their business over the health of our population?


  • #1504
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    joe_99 wrote: »
    At least 6.8 percent of people who developed the flu during the 2019–2020 flu season in the United States have died (as of February 2020), compared to around 2 percent of those diagnosed with the 2019 coronavirus.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2

    Jaysus - way to word something to suit your agenda
    Look at the actual flu related deaths - your 6.8% becomes nonsense


  • #1505
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    all about the mane wrote: »
    How do you work that out?

    Because 10-20% of the world population get flu every year . Death rate of 6.8% in 1.4 billion flu cases is just shy of a hundred million dead

    Suffice to say that clearly hasn't been the case. Despite what CDC said that post , I'm sure it is the poster just saying what CDC said arseways and completely out of context


  • #1506
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    2Mad2BeMad wrote: »
    I use to watch a programme that showed americans who built underground bunkers and its fully stocked with food water guns etc..

    thought they were mad, but if this was to turn into a pandemic, well that would be quite ironic for me laughing at them thinking they are nuts.

    They are.


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  • #1507
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Jaysus - way to word something to suit your agenda
    Look at the actual flu related deaths - your 6.8% becomes nonsense


    https://www.healthline.com/health/coronavirus-covid-19 - direct quote. Read the article. Not my agenda.


  • #1508
    babybuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    Dotsie~tmp wrote: »
    Thats was VERY interesting when they did that. They were asked what they though should be done. The gave a counter argument to their field of knowledge. Theres a particular reason when people do such things. Its when they know if they tell someone what they are thinking its will hurt their feelings/scare them. They had an actual opinion, they wouldn't say it. Maybe they are scared to contemplate it themselves.

    Don't bite the hand that feeds. Continue the narrative that nothing can be done.


  • #1509
    Jin luk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The annual flu is an epidemic.....
    Worst case scenario, this joins it.

    Last time i checked a pandemic is worse than an epidemic


  • #1510
    Dotsie~tmp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Dotsie~tmp


    all about the mane wrote: »
    They are mad.

    Until the day maybe they are not. And some of the formally certified sane are feeling the pinch or mortality and wonder who the fool really was.


  • #1511
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Dotsie~tmp wrote: »
    Thats was VERY interesting when they did that. They were asked what they though should be done. The gave a counter argument to their field of knowledge. Theres a particular reason when people do such things. Its when they know if they tell someone what they are thinking its will hurt their feelings/scare them. They had an actual opinion, they wouldn't say it. Maybe they are scared to contemplate it themselves.

    I agree. I have been watching Dr Cillian Gascun for the past while, advising on the characteristics of the virus and I was impressed with his knowledge and method of information delivery. I trusted him.

    Tonight, while straying in to the 'what we are going to do' territory .... he scared me and I didn't trust him. To clarify, the scare factor is that we don't have a clue about how to deal with this - arguments presented that were too easily contradicted and didn't stack up.

    Own goal scored live on Primetime and more harm done than good.


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  • #1512
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    joe_99 wrote: »
    https://www.healthline.com/health/coronavirus-covid-19 - direct quote. Not my agenda.

    This is a percentage of all deaths that week. Not a percentage of all people with flu. Also, I can't figure it out out but it might include bacterial pneumonia.


  • #1513
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    joe_99 wrote: »
    https://www.healthline.com/health/coronavirus-covid-19 - direct quote. Not my agenda.

    You are spreading false information about the flu - In America flu related deaths range from 0.01 to 0.1% death each year
    If you had bothered to actually even read the CDC article you linked you would know that but better for Headline grabbing trash


  • #1514
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    50 year old man in Germany in a critical condition
    https://www.wz.de/nrw/erster-coronavirus-fall-in-nrw-person-aus-erkelenz-in-uniklinik-duesseldorf_aid-49191687


  • #1515
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,387 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    joe_99 wrote: »
    Direct quote https://www.healthline.com/health/coronavirus-covid-19
    I think your reading that wrong ..
    Maybe make more sense to look at something like the below.

    Conclusion. CDC estimates that influenza was associated with more than 35.5 million illnesses, more than 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths during the 2018–2019 influenza season.Jan 8, 20

    So a tiny percentage of deaths.
    Coronavirus is in no way comparable


  • #1516
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    joe_99 wrote: »
    https://www.healthline.com/health/coronavirus-covid-19 - direct quote. Not my agenda.

    "6.8% of the deaths occurring during the week ending February 8, 2020"

    From what you quoted before. Can you read? It says that 6.8 percent of the people who died of flu died in that week!! Not that the death rate from flu was 6.8%. Cop on spouting ****e like this.


  • #1517
    babybuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    The 6.8% relates to 6.8% of the total flu deaths that occurred over a certain period in February. It's nothing to do with the flu death rate being 6.8%
    Edit Sorry you got ahead of me


  • #1518
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Jin luk wrote: »
    Last time i checked a pandemic is worse than an epidemic

    Now you're just taking de mic.


  • #1519
    Indestructable
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭Indestructable


    Oh no. Not more stats


  • #1520
    BLIZZARD7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭BLIZZARD7


    joe_99 wrote: »
    At least 6.8 percent of people who developed the flu during the 2019–2020 flu season in the United States have died (as of February 2020), compared to around 2 percent of those diagnosed with the 2019 coronavirus.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2

    6.8% of ALL deaths were related to the Flu AND Pneumonia, NOT that the mortality rate from the flu is 6.8%. Actually read properly before spreading false news.

    From the CDC - "Based on National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) mortality surveillance data available on February 20, 2020, 6.8% of the deaths occurring during the week ending February 8, 2020 (week 6) were due to P&I. This percentage is below the epidemic threshold of 7.3% for week 6. "


  • #1521
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,385 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Jin luk wrote: »
    Last time i checked a pandemic is worse than an epidemic

    Not necessarily, we have seasonal flu each year, which has a high death toll, unfortunately.

    Pandemic is a new disease that spreads globally, yet does not necessarily cause high rates of deaths as flu.

    Now, I hear that the WHO has changed their definition of pandemic, at just this point in time, to make the definition worthless.


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  • #1522
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    fritzelly wrote: »
    You are spreading false information about the flu - In America flu related deaths range from 0.01 to 0.1% death each year
    If you had bothered to actually even read the CDC article you linked you would know that but better for Headline grabbing trash

    Read the healthline article. I quoted directly from this. I made no other comment. https://www.healthline.com/health/coronavirus-covid-19

    COVID-19 versus the flu

    The symptoms of COVID-19 are similar to that of the influenza (flu) virus.

    The flu virus is much more common and much more deadly than the 2019 coronavirus.

    At least 6.8 percentTrusted Source of people who developed the flu during the 2019–2020 flu season in the United States have died (as of February 2020), compared to around 2 percentTrusted Source of those diagnosed with the 2019 coronavirus.


  • #1523
    Sean 18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Sean 18


    All these people saying it's like flu no it is not there's a vaccibt for the flu theirs a lot on Ireland on dialysis and receiving cancer treatment at least their somewhat protected from the flu with the vaccine there's no protection against this


  • #1524
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The annual flu is an epidemic.....
    Worst case scenario, this joins it.

    You assume the death rate won't be more than 2% and 1%? Say it's 1%, how many times more deadly would that be than the flu? I know the flu has a vaccine which lowers it.


  • #1525
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    joe_99 wrote: »
    Read the healthline article. I quoted directly from this. I made no other comment. https://www.healthline.com/health/coronavirus-covid-19

    Then they have a dumbass reporter

    7% of the population dying every year we would be extinct by now lmao


  • #1526
    Dave0301
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    joe_99 wrote: »
    At least 6.8 percent of people who developed the flu during the 2019–2020 flu season in the United States have died (as of February 2020), compared to around 2 percent of those diagnosed with the 2019 coronavirus.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2

    That value of 6.8% is just for that week...Once the flu season ends, it will probably drop down to about 0.1% for all closed cases.

    Using that logic, the case fatality rate for COVID-19 is 9% right now. However, it will be lower than that once all the cases are closed.


  • #1527
    Dotsie~tmp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Dotsie~tmp


    fr336 wrote: »
    What even are these "serious health conditions"?

    Novel, unusual viruses can do unusual things unfortunately.

    https://www.newsweek.com/chinese-scientists-coronavirus-male-fertility-1488235


  • #1528
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    The article does say that.

    The source it's using to back up the claim does not.

    Blame article in Healthline


  • #1529
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    joe_99 wrote: »
    At least 6.8 percent of people who developed the flu during the 2019–2020 flu season in the United States have died (as of February 2020), compared to around 2 percent of those diagnosed with the 2019 coronavirus.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2

    please read stuff carefully before you post. that 6.8% figure is from patients presenting with both flu and pneumonia. i.e the serious cases. most flu cases do not lead to pneumonia.


  • #1530
    Kaisr Sose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    So, I see that some sports organisation is getting a bit annoyed about events being cancelled.

    They even see fit to meet one of our ministers.

    How dare they put their business over the health of our population?

    We have no idea what the talks are about. They may propose to play the game in an empty stadium. Unless they close the border, game or no game, a lot of Italian fans will travel anyway so we are kinda fecked anyway!


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  • #1531
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The annual flu is an epidemic.....
    Worst case scenario, this joins it.

    What are you basing this conclusion on?


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