Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

Graces7 · 25-02-2020 03:08PM

The chan chan man wrote: »

I wouldn’t call Italy’s response underwhelming..

Some here would have had Ireland on total lockdown for weeks, Sheer panic
Italy did right at the right time, and anything else would have been unworkable , As it would here.

KWAG2019 · 25-02-2020 03:08PM

Bot1 wrote: »

Supposed to be going skiing next Friday in Northern Italy with the wife and two kids.
Flying in to Bergamo.
What's people's opinions? Go? Don't go?

Don’t go. Whatever about risk of infection and age group health issues the risk of a lock down is the straw that would break the camels back.

GooglePlus · 25-02-2020 03:08PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Dust masks used by construction workers won't protect you from anything, apart from breathing in dust from working on a building site.

They're not just dust masks, they're for particles 0.3 microns and up.

I know the virus itself is smaller but they will protect against fluid droplets containing the virus.

If you find a mask that stops the virus of roughly 0.2 microns, let me know.

celt262 · 25-02-2020 03:09PM

Louche Lad wrote: »

Children and teachers sent home from NI schools after Italy trips

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/coronavirus-children-teachers-sent-home-17810969

If right was right should all the people that those kids have been in contact with since they came home self isolate, and what about the people who have been in contact with the people who have been in contact with the kids?

BanditLuke · 25-02-2020 03:09PM

Bot1 wrote: »

Supposed to be going skiing next Friday in Northern Italy with the wife and two kids.
Flying in to Bergamo.
What's people's opinions? Go? Don't go?

If you have to ask you already know the answer.

cnocbui · 25-02-2020 03:15PM

keane2097 wrote: »

That's a great apology for calling people pathetic clowns for posting news you hadn't personally seen :pac:

In fairness, her reaction was pretty justified given the trolling by that self-satisfied ratbag, Ads By Google.

Mic 1972 · 25-02-2020 03:17PM

cnocbui wrote: »

In fairness, her reaction was pretty justified given the trolling by that self-satisfied ratbag, Ads By Google.

Trolling has become an issue, i'll give you that

charlietheminxx · 25-02-2020 03:19PM

cnocbui wrote: »

If you are under 50 and reasonably healthy, just go.

I am, but like I said I'm responsible for a person who would be considered high risk for a few days afterwards. Maybe I'm just being paranoid. I'll see how things unfold in the next 24 hours.

facehugger99 · 25-02-2020 03:20PM

Bot1 wrote: »

Supposed to be going skiing next Friday in Northern Italy with the wife and two kids.
Flying in to Bergamo.
What's people's opinions? Go? Don't go?

Why would you be looking for advice from non-medically qualified randomers on an internet forum?

cnocbui · 25-02-2020 03:20PM

Bot1 wrote: »

Supposed to be going skiing next Friday in Northern Italy with the wife and two kids.
Flying in to Bergamo.
What's people's opinions? Go? Don't go?

Go, use hand sanitizer a lot and maybe self isolate for a while when you get back. The only people at serious risk from this are the elderly and immuno-suppressed.

notobtuse · 25-02-2020 03:20PM

A cure for the WuFlu might already exist in the US. But our massive bureaucracy and huge amounts of money needed for testing because of rampant litigation woes might just cause it to sit idle in some Houston lab for a very long time.

https://hotair.com/archives/karen-townsend/2020/02/24/vaccine-stored-houston-may-work-coronavirus-awaits-testing/

BanditLuke · 25-02-2020 03:22PM

The hotel in Tenerife is being surrounded by police and nobody is allowed leave. Diamond Princess 2

Mic 1972 · 25-02-2020 03:22PM

an entire village is being tested in Italy, all 4,000 inhabitants, first time this happens

https://www.corriere.it/esteri/20_febbraio_24/coronavirus-vo-l-intero-paese-fila-il-tampone-ma-io-devo-lavorare-e5e71518-5749-11ea-b89d-a5ca249e9e1e.shtml

LadyMayBelle · 25-02-2020 03:22PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Go, use hand sanitizer a lot and maybe self isolate for a while when you get back. The only people at serious risk from this are the elderly and immuno-suppressed.

What's "a while" though?!

dublin99 · 25-02-2020 03:22PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

They're not just dust masks, they're for particles 0.3 microns and up.

I know the virus itself is smaller but they will protect against fluid droplets containing the virus.

If you find a mask that stops the virus of roughly 0.2 microns, let me know.

The basic nuisance dust mask is of no use.
You need at least ffp2 mask (equivalent to US standard N95) or better still a ffp3 for protection. FYI ffp3 masks were recommended by WHO for protection against Ebola as part of a PPE package.

***Most importantly, the mask must be right size and well fitted and forms a seal around mouth area, ie you are not breathing through the gap at the edges.

https://www.dustmasksdirect.co.uk/different-types-of-dust-masks-29-w.asp

gozunda · 25-02-2020 03:23PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

CNN blaming Trump in

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New Iran is best Iran!

Fear not Coronavirus, Iran ‘endures hardships to make enemy regretful’: Rouhani...

“We will, God willing, get past this virus,” said Rouhani.

“Influenza B virus had 16,000 causalities in America, while it had just over 100 casualties in Iran,” he said. “Coronavirus spreads more quickly but it is not tougher than influenza.”

He called on Iranians to follow the health ministry’s instructions and added that they should not be afraid of coronavirus.

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2020/02/25/Fear-not-Coronavirus-Iran-endures-hardships-to-make-the-enemy-regretful-Rouhani.html

tuxy · 25-02-2020 03:24PM

notobtuse wrote: »

A cure for the WuFlu might already exist in the US. But our massive bureaucracy and huge amounts of money needed for testing because of rampant litigation woes might just cause it to sit idle in some Houston lab for a very long time.

https://hotair.com/archives/karen-townsend/2020/02/24/vaccine-stored-houston-may-work-coronavirus-awaits-testing/

No mention of a cure in that article.

BanditLuke · 25-02-2020 03:25PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Go, use hand sanitizer a lot and maybe self isolate for a while when you get back. The only people at serious risk from this are the elderly and immuno-suppressed.

Isolate for a while :rolleyes: Jesus why are people being encouraged to take these risks?

Bot1 · 25-02-2020 03:27PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Why would you be looking for advice from non-medically qualified randomers on an internet forum?

Not looking for advice.

I asked for opinions on whether I should go or not.

You do realise there are people at this very moment travelling to Northern Italy and arriving from Northern Italy, it's not clear cut.

charlietheminxx · 25-02-2020 03:29PM

DFA need to update their website so people can make proper, informed decisions.

cameramonkey · 25-02-2020 03:29PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Is it true that the virus only kills old people and vegans?

Old people and virgins I think.

notobtuse · 25-02-2020 03:29PM

tuxy wrote: »

No mention of a cure in that article.

You're correct. I should have said 'vaccine.'

VinLieger · 25-02-2020 03:29PM

Bot1 wrote: »

Not looking for advice.

I asked for opinions on whether I should go or not.

You do realise there are people at this very moment travelling to Northern Italy and arriving from Northern Italy, it's not clear cut.

Its incredibly clear cut its just our politicians are unwilling to make the right decisions and stop these flights. The number of infected in Italy mean its been there for at least 1-2 weeks prior to detection last weekend which means its not possible to contain it as its already beyond the current quarantine. I wouldnt go if I were you.

However i also already believe the virus is here and its too late to stop the spread anyway so.....

odyssey06 · 25-02-2020 03:30PM

Bot1 wrote: »

Not looking for advice.
I asked for opinions on whether I should go or not.
You do realise there are people at this very moment travelling to Northern Italy and arriving from Northern Italy, it's not clear cut.

Even if you don't get sick there's a very real chance that:
(a) You can't get back home on schedule as flights are cancelled
(b) If you get back home you won't be able to go to work for 2 weeks or children attend school

So factor those into your decision.

Bot1 · 25-02-2020 03:31PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Even if you don't get sick there's a very real chance that:
(a) You can't get back home on schedule as flights are cancelled
(b) If you get back home you won't be able to go to work for 2 weeks or children attend school

So factor those into your decision.

Good points.

Those are the kind of opinions I was looking for.

BanditLuke · 25-02-2020 03:31PM

Bot1 wrote: »

Not looking for advice.

I asked for opinions on whether I should go or not.

You do realise there are people at this very moment travelling to Northern Italy and arriving from Northern Italy, it's not clear cut.

Okay let's say for a minute you go and the outbreak get's worse and your hotel is suspected of a case or two and nobody is allowed leave for 2 weeks. That's not that far fetched a scenario. Saying that by the time you leave we most likely will have multiple cases here but it's going to be easier to ride this out at home in your house/apartment than some hotel in Italy.

Nijmegen · 25-02-2020 03:31PM

Bot1 wrote: »

Not looking for advice.

I asked for opinions on whether I should go or not.

You do realise there are people at this very moment travelling to Northern Italy and arriving from Northern Italy, it's not clear cut.

The Department of Foreign Affairs has a limited no-travel advisory, with the proviso that their list of places to not travel to is expanding rapidly in line with the outbreak. Given it has jumped into neighboring countries like Austria and Croatia, let alone neighboring towns, I wouldn't be going.

https://www.dfa.ie/travel/travel-advice/a-z-list-of-countries/italy/

There has been an increase in the number of confirmed cases of Coronavirus in Italy. As a result of this, the Italian government has placed travel restrictions on the towns of Codogno, Castiglione d’Adda, Casalpusterlengo, Fombio, Maleo, Somaglia, Bertonico, Terranova dei Passerini, Castelgerundo and San Fiorano). For the moment, therefore, we are advising citizens not to travel to these towns.

You are advised to monitor developments regularly. Further information (including in english) is available at www.salute.gov.it/nuovocoronavirus.

The regions of Lombardy, Veneto, Friuli Venezia Giulia, Piemonte and Emilia Romagna have put certain restrictions in place, including in relation to events, and the temporary closure of educational and cultural institutions.

fritzelly · 25-02-2020 03:34PM

So it continues

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1232310081548627968

wakka12 · 25-02-2020 03:35PM

fritzelly wrote: »

So it continues

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1232310081548627968

The first of many I would say. Theres literally a thousand people who left that boat after just one negative test

cnocbui · 25-02-2020 03:35PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Isolate for a while :rolleyes: Jesus why are people being encouraged to take these risks?

Personally I think it's now a pandemic, so no longer stoppable. Most people who get it are entirely asymptomatic or barely have a sniffle. Out of the hundred thousand plus people infected, the reported deaths for people under 40 is in the single digits, of which I only know 2, and they were Chinese doctors who were overworked to the max in Wuhan. The vast majority of deaths and serious cases, as far as i am aware, is among the elderly who also have underlying health problems. They probably stand a greater risk of a skiing injury than any adverse effects from the virus.

If I didn't think the cat was already out of the bag, I'd probably say don't go, as a precaution, but they might as well now.

Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

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