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BanditLuke · 25-02-2020 02:40PM

turbbo wrote: »

Yeah mad to think that the conspiracy people are on the other side of this. I think the conspiracy here is this is way worse than "they" are letting on.

Personally I don't see any conspiracy. All I see is the West like a stranded deer in the headlights.

facehugger99 · 25-02-2020 02:40PM

Is it true that the virus only kills old people and vegans?

Mic 1972 · 25-02-2020 02:40PM

Comix wrote: »

A HSE worker.
You can believe it or not, the truth will out in the end and you will see i am correct about this

that's your source... right
I actually read the article my self, it does say they are Italians, but hey... the journalists probably forgot to check facts with your HSE friend

cnocbui · 25-02-2020 02:40PM

Shuhada Davitt wrote: »

IT IS ALL A SCAM. there's no such thing as coronavirus

If I had the power, I'd make you go clean the kitchens and crew areas on the Diamond Princess.

touts · 25-02-2020 02:40PM

KWAG2019 wrote: »

Thread is moving quickly here. Did I see a post about a school group recently returned from Northern Italy? Sky saying a school in Cheshire closed after similar.

I know of one school group in Waterford that returned over the weekend from Northern Italy after a transition year skiing trip over mid term. I'm sure there were others. And Mid-term is a popular time for families to go either skiing in Italy or to Tenerife for some winter sun.

darjeeling · 25-02-2020 02:41PM

Comix wrote: »

A HSE worker.
You can believe it or not, the truth will out in the end and you will see i am correct about this

The paper I cited concludes the opposite:

'Based on the available data, we conclude that Asians do not express ACE2 at a
higher level and do not bear unique genetic polymorphisms in ACE2.'

wakka12 · 25-02-2020 02:41PM

KWAG2019 wrote: »

Thread is moving quickly here. Did I see a post about a school group recently returned from Northern Italy? Sky saying a school in Cheshire closed after similar.

Yeh a South Dublin secondary school, 100 5th year pupils returned from a week long holiday a day before the lockdown, were in Milan, Verona and at the Austrian border where a case was confirmed today. They recieved a text from the school saying to look out for symptoms but thats it. More than likely they are all free of it but the lack of consideration from authorities in Ireland regarding this issue is a bit worrying, seems no measures will be taken until an outbreak occurs here. And as we can see in China, Korea, Italy, Iran, by then it is too late

BanditLuke · 25-02-2020 02:42PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

He was, until he started reporting on hearsay from Iran and being disingenuous with the italian figures. It's starting to come across like he's playing up to his audience more than dealing in hard facts now.

The Iranian deputy minister of health has it, i think he's accurate on the Iranian estimate

BanditLuke · 25-02-2020 02:42PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Is it true that the virus only kills old people and vegans?

No

givyjoe · 25-02-2020 02:42PM

keane2097 wrote: »

That's a great apology for calling people pathetic clowns for posting news you hadn't personally seen :pac:

Could have literally done a google search quicker than the time it took to abuse the other poster.

wylo · 25-02-2020 02:44PM

The gap between number of infections and deaths in Iran seems to be widening which is somewhat welcoming if its lining up with elsewhere, tomorrow will really tell.

25-02-2020 02:45PM

Quote: Comix
No need to panic yet! Simple rundown is that it infects Ace-2 receptors in lungs, the further East you are from the more of these you have (China), the further West you are from the less you have(Ireland). Off all the dead so far in Italy they have only made public the ID of one victim, a 80+year old Italian man with already bad health. The question you should be asking is who are the other 6 victims? I can tell you now they were Chinese, so unless it mutates if you are not Asian , no need to panic. Your own eyes will show you Western government don't seem to be taking it as serious as they should if it was going to be as bad in the west as in Asia.

Genuinely can we have a sticky explaining why this is absolute nonsense based on one dodgy 8 person study. Sick of it coming up time and again.

Sigma101 · 25-02-2020 02:45PM

touts wrote: »

I know of one school group in Waterford that returned over the weekend from Northern Italy after a transition year skiing trip over mid term. I'm sure there were others. And Mid-term is a popular time for families to go either skiing in Italy or to Tenerife for some winter sun.

Yep, lots of TY students in Austria and South Tyrol last week but no relevant advice from the HSE to the schools yet. A completely different approach in the UK. From the Guardian:

Schools across the UK are sending pupils home as they struggle to comply with the latest official advice on Covid-19 for students and staff who spent last week’s half-term holiday in northern Italy.

Mic 1972 · 25-02-2020 02:46PM

Comix wrote: »

Look at the news, if it was going to be as bad in the West as in Asia, would the reaction be so underwhelming from the governments?
Remember the English flown back 2 week ago?
Remember the bus transfers to the quarantine?
Remember the White bus drivers with ZERO PPE?

The further East you are from the higher ACE-2 receptors you have, the further West the less, hence the lack of response from the powers that be in the West.
The West will get the flu, be sick and recover, Asians will be touch and go

you should look at the numbers instead but we are banned from providing facts here, so... maybe yes it only kills Asians, vegans and maybe transgender people, that's what my source told me

The chan chan man · 25-02-2020 02:46PM

Comix wrote: »

Look at the news, if it was going to be as bad in the West as in Asia, would the reaction be so underwhelming from the governments?
Remember the English flown back 2 week ago?
Remember the bus transfers to the quarantine?
Remember the White bus drivers with ZERO PPE?

The further East you are from the higher ACE-2 receptors you have, the further West the less, hence the lack of response from the powers that be in the West.
The West will get the flu, be sick and recover, Asians will be touch and go

I wouldn’t call Italy’s response underwhelming...nor would I call them Asians..

Mic 1972 · 25-02-2020 02:48PM

Comix wrote: »

Italian nationals from a Chinese ethnic background, is that hard to understand?

Italians with Italian background, plenty of reports about it, case close
no more replies on this please

wakka12 · 25-02-2020 02:49PM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1232286717190733825
Next hotspot it seems

Mic 1972 · 25-02-2020 02:49PM

Comix wrote: »

OK , dont believe it, they are full blooded Italians who can trace their blood line back to the time of Nero, none of them are ethnic Chinese Italians!

where are the mods?? :rolleyes:

gozunda · 25-02-2020 02:49PM

pc7 wrote: »

Is that the President he is beside? Also their government in that room?

Its worse than that Jim - looks like the whole Iranian government may have been exposed ...:eek:

The Iranian parliament held a session behind closed doors today which was also attended by health minister Saeed Namaki.

Prior to the start of the session, the body temperature of MPs was checked as a precaution, and three MPs – including Amirabadi Farhani – were advised not to attend the session, ISNA quoted an unnamed MP as saying.

Despite that, all three MPs attended the session, the unnamed MP told ISNA.

Amirabadi Farhani was told that he needs to be quarantined, but he declined and went home, the MP added. A member of the parliament staff then disinfected his seat, according to ISNA.

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2020/02/24/Iranian-MP-50-dead-from-coronavirus-in-Qom-Health-Minister-to-blame-ILNA.html

BanditLuke · 25-02-2020 02:53PM

gozunda wrote: »

Its worse than that Jim - looks like the whole Iranian government may have been exposed ...:eek:

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2020/02/24/Iranian-MP-50-dead-from-coronavirus-in-Qom-Health-Minister-to-blame-ILNA.html

CNN blaming Trump in

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DrumSteve · 25-02-2020 02:53PM

gozunda wrote: »

Its worse than that Jim - looks like the whole Iranian government may have been exposed ...:eek:

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2020/02/24/Iranian-MP-50-dead-from-coronavirus-in-Qom-Health-Minister-to-blame-ILNA.html

Fuccccccccking hell.

Good thing they had an election recently.

cnocbui · 25-02-2020 02:53PM

charlietheminxx wrote: »

I've posted this over in travel already, but I am supposed to go to Costa Adeje in Tenerife on Thursday. I've been following this thread for weeks and am now stressing.

In desperate want of a holiday but I'm not sure it's worth going now.

We are going to hold tight and see how things develop today and tomorrow. If there are more cases in Tenerife, we will cancel. It's a bad blow as it's our first trip away together in a year and a half and we are unlikely to get anything back on the travel insurance if we don't go.

I'm not even that concerned about catching the virus over there, my fear is being put in lockdown/quarantine and not being able to get home. I have a vulnerable person to care for next week and I have to be back and obviously can't chance being infected.

If you are under 50 and reasonably healthy, just go.

cnocbui · 25-02-2020 02:57PM

gozunda wrote: »

Its worse than that Jim - looks like the whole Iranian government may have been exposed ...:eek:

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2020/02/24/Iranian-MP-50-dead-from-coronavirus-in-Qom-Health-Minister-to-blame-ILNA.html

Nice to have some good news for a change.

darjeeling · 25-02-2020 02:59PM

Comix wrote: »

look at the date published
PC Damage control
Time will reveal the truth?
Why is it not running wild in Africa?

The great thing about science is that it doesn't rely on rumour and speculation.

The paper used a large public data set that anyone can download, and did a pretty basic analysis.

It concluded that there is essentially no variation in ACE2 between ethnic groups represented in the dataset.

The early rumours began because of a tiny study with a chance finding. That is now seen to be false.

Louche Lad · 25-02-2020 03:02PM

Children and teachers sent home from NI schools after Italy trips

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/coronavirus-children-teachers-sent-home-17810969

wakka12 · 25-02-2020 03:05PM

Louche Lad wrote: »

Children and teachers sent home from NI schools after Italy trips

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/coronavirus-children-teachers-sent-home-17810969

That is exactly where Muckross Park College also had their recent ski trip. Exact same dates as well funnily enough. Must have been some tourism package marketed to Irish schools for that week or something.

Bot1 · 25-02-2020 03:06PM

Supposed to be going skiing next Friday in Northern Italy with the wife and two kids.
Flying in to Bergamo.
What's people's opinions? Go? Don't go?

BanditLuke · 25-02-2020 03:07PM

Louche Lad wrote: »

Children and teachers sent home from NI schools after Italy trips

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/coronavirus-children-teachers-sent-home-17810969

Surely they shouldn't have went to school this morning, bad parenting. Anyway better late than never.

Mic 1972 · 25-02-2020 03:08PM

Bot1 wrote: »

Supposed to be going skiing next Friday in Northern Italy with the wife and two kids.
Flying in to Bergamo.
What's people's opinions? Go? Don't go?

I don't want to sound smart but, why asking these questions?
There is outbreak in Italy, and potentially in the rest of Europe

DrumSteve · 25-02-2020 03:08PM

Bot1 wrote: »

Supposed to be going skiing next Friday in Northern Italy with the wife and two kids.
Flying in to Bergamo.
What's people's opinions? Go? Don't go?

If you have to ask, you already know the answer...

Personally, it seems to be the case that Kids are unaffected by it, but you could end up quarantined.

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