Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Like seriously a few thousand sick in China is nothing really? There's what, 1.7bn people there. That's barely a drop in the ocean. A handful in Italy are sick and you can count on your hand how many died?? Normal flu does that.

10k in serious or critical condition - it's grand shure - you work for the HSE?

gozunda wrote: »

I believe that was one of the attenuated strains included in the Flu jab for this year

I presumed you didnt get the flu vaccine for this year?

Got the flu jab this year (or rather last year now) for the first time ever - last time I had flu is probably over 20 years ago and I was dying then. Thought I was chancing my arm to not get it again
So glad I got the jab this year.

wylo wrote: »

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“Secondly no one knows if this going to mutate to a worse strain - if you believe the Iran figures then half the worlds population could be dead this time next year.”

Not saying that’s panic in and of itself but it certainly would induce it!

And what would a person in 'panic' look like?..
What could they do, to help feel in control?

I ask because sooo many people on this thread are saying don't panic. Don't prepare. I don't know about you, but when I feel prepared, I panic less.

Someone telling me NOT to panic, has never worked.

Be that for an exam, a driving test, or a life event I cannot control.

And personally, since this bug appeared, I have been apprehensive.
There is no stopping a virus and the levels of 'control' in china have been unprecedented. The CCP has signed their own death warrant by trying to control this virus so viciously. And that worries me, I have never seen the global economy crash for a virus. Never seen a political party crucify itself to the flu.

So, I understand there is no stopping it. We will all have to roll the dice on this one. The world will stay turning, And life carries on. I am hoping that the deniers are right, that it will just be a bad flu.

But it looks like Spanish flu. Chinese docs are (anonymously not Peer reviewed) warning us, it behaves like Spanish flu, second time is more deadly. We can choose to listen, or not. Won't matter it's on its way.

Not a thing anyone here can do to change that. But if prepping helps to feel more in control. How is that a bad thing?

Andrew00 wrote: »

His colleagues tested positive but HSE said to him you'll be grand

BanditLuke wrote: »

The absolute state of this nations preparation's for this. Pathetic.

fritzelly wrote: »

Like I said - they don't want to test anyone

We really need to stop the self flagellation here!
One of the guys colleagues tested positive (not multiple contacts) He discussed his exposure with the HSE, and they deemed the exposure not to be significant. So much so that they didn’t even ask him to self quarantine. Only he and the HSE know what that contact was, so it’s difficult for anyone to second guess.
They didn’t test him because see they deemed it unnecessary, and importantly, presumably a waste of resources.
On the one hand, a poster says Italy ran out of tests. On the other hand, we should be wasting tests on people we have no expectation of being positive??.

This is a brand new test, which seems to be throwing up a lot of false positives and negatives. It’s PCR, so probably requires a significant viral load to be positive. What are the chances of an asymptomatic, insignificant contact being positive inside a 2 week incubation period?

No one here knows the extent of our ‘preparedness’. But there are plans and protocols in place. The HSE aren’t just sitting on their arses and hoping for the best. They’re not wilfully not bothering to test either. That’s just nonsense talk.

gozunda wrote: »

I've had full blown flu at least twice and as you said it's a nasty dose

Got the flu jab this year myself for the first time in a couple of years after hearing reports about people getting it. They are recommending anyone who hasnt got the vaccine - to do so. As no one needs to potentially get one and then the other tbh ..

Good idea actually - I shouldn't wait till next season. And I've heard that advice too - any small practical step to reduce demand on health services is sensible.

Theres a huge media misinformation going on downplaying this virus which could be compared to a bio.weapon
It will ravage the planet we need to lockdown the country before it's too late our resistance to flu is weak at the least vivid is flu on steroids there's no medicine to fight it your on your own with your immune system to beat it if your lucky.

MarkY91 wrote: »

So lads, why hasn't the Singapore dollar, Thai baht etc fallen against the Euro? SGD already fell against the USD.

Surely there's some Forex educated people here to explain.

In a pandemic, all countries suffer.

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm watching contagion. This might have been a bad idea.

Jude Laws character reminded me. Has that man in China who was filming the bodies in hospitals etc turned up yet? Sorry I can't remember his name.

Nope, the two of them are still persona incognita

Deleted User wrote: »

WHO have said virus has peaked in China. If this is true, it's great news and a hammerblow to the doom mongers in this thread:)

Expect that to turn on its head when everyone is forced back to work - the numbers have dropped due to forced isolation and only to be expected. That's not how epidemic plateauing works but the WHO are saying it is
There are reports of hospitals in Beijing shutting down due to new cases

all about the mane wrote: »

But people love a drama!

Xi: 'I'm bored, lock everyone in their homes and shutdown the economy'

Loves the drama!

Harry Freezing Bifocal wrote: »

They probably can't test him, I wouldn't be surprised if we actually have no test kits here for this.

Of course a comprehensive and honest communication from HSE might prove that wrong but there's been nothing solid forthcoming, probably a memo sent around internally and that's about it.

We do. Testing is being performed at the NVRL. This has already been covered in the previous thread. You can read about it here.
https://nvrl.ucd.ie/node/209

People are so quick to dismiss the HSE. Do people think the department of health are sitting around with their fingers in their ears.

No news is good news.

fritzelly wrote: »

And there is a third who are showing healthy acceptance of the news and playing it safe, hoping for the best and preparing for the worst

If the thread is depressing you stop reading it - being depressed affects your immune system

I hope more people will begin to see it this way.

Hearing people interviewed from the lockdown zone in Italy, there's a familiar ring to people's experiences.
They don't have enough information, they don't trust what the authorities are doing, and they don't really know what they should be doing themselves.

I don't know what measures the government here might put in place, so I can only hope that the right calls will be made.
As others have said, containment strategies such as those being elsewhere will likely not stop the spread, but will delay it, and that will save lives.
Any rapidly spreading epidemic here would overwhelm hospitals, and particularly intensive care units, so slowing it down will help.
Also, we will learn and get better at treating people as any epidemic progresses, and we might even have a vaccine before it is over.

As individuals at least we can do our bit to slow the spread by doing all the obvious sensible things -
stay home if you have symptoms, good hand washing & avoiding touching eyes/nose/mouth, consider working from home / limiting travel & socialising where practical & necessary,

One other I thing I expect we will see soon is the availability of antibody testing for rapid screening large numbers of people to see who has been exposed to the disease.
That will give us a much better idea of the size of the spread so far.
It might also be used in conjunction with the current RT-PCR tests for presence of active virus to give more accurate diagnoses.