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Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Chap in Korea recently but HSE won't test him. Missed the start of it, did he say his colleagues were already tested positive?

    They probably can't test him, I wouldn't be surprised if we actually have no test kits here for this.

    Of course a comprehensive and honest communication from HSE might prove that wrong but there's been nothing solid forthcoming, probably a memo sent around internally and that's about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    I think its overwhelmingly unlikely that the flu anyone had here recently is related to covid but it's easy enough to create a narrative that shows it to be possible, albeit extremely improbable:

    It started in Wuhan in November. A lot of people around Xmas and after were talking about the flu they had being the worst flu theyve ever had and there were reports mentioning it not being covered by the vaccine - which would make sense if it's a different virus.

    According to HSE flu reports, one of the highest prevalence flu strains we had over winter was an A H3N2 type, and that is associated with higher disease severity, hospitalisation and mortality.

    I had it in early December, and whilst sitting at home nursing a fever and a grudge against whoever gave it to me, I actually read the weekly HSE & UK flu reports to see what I'd got. Because that's the kind of person I am, I know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,111 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Time to close all routes in from Italy - they are trying to infect the whole of Europe

    Edit to add

    /s

    Some people read everything too seriously


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    weser777 wrote: »
    Due to fly to Venice in just over two weeks...what do ya’s reckon the chances of this happening will be?

    Can't see Northern Italy not being locked down in two weeks time. They aren't going to shift policy after committing to this and they aren't going to have enough of a slowdown given the starting numbers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭5555555555


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Is he on the show


    He was on Skype.



    He tried to ring the HSE on their number yesterday but it wasn't working.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,682 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Time to close all routes in from Italy - they are trying to infect the whole of Europe

    This is sensationalism. You make it sound like it's some sort of alternative organised Italian Job on Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Time to close all routes in from Italy - they are trying to infect the whole of Europe
    Who exactly ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Andrew00 wrote: »
    The HSE haven't a clue how to deal with Coronavirus or how to tell the symptoms or how to test. "ah sure you'll be grand" is the mentality

    Politicians need to stop there bickering, put government formation to the side and work together on a cross party basis pronto until the threat is gone.

    Leo stop sulking on all media platforms for a start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Kaisr Sose wrote: »
    This is sensationalism. You make it sound like it's some sort of alternative organised Italian Job on Europe.

    I think it’s a piss take


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,111 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    Who exactly ?

    Exactly WHO?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Like I said - they don't want to test anyone
    By testing no one they can claim it's not in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    They probably can't test him, I wouldn't be surprised if we actually have no test kits here for this.

    Of course a comprehensive and honest communication from HSE might prove that wrong but there's been nothing solid forthcoming, probably a memo sent around internally and that's about it.

    You really think that's possible, no test kits. But what about all the ones they've tested negative thus far?? I know the HSE is a joke organization but surely they wouldn't outright lie about something this serious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Like I said - they don't want to test anyone

    I'd say the HSE would rather people stay at home and die with the absolute state of the health system.

    They know with hospitals already overcrowded and under resourced its a catastrophe in waiting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    I'd say the HSE would rather people stay at home and die with the absolute state of the health system.

    They know with hospitals already overcrowded and under resourced its a catastrophe in waiting.

    Sure they would...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    Could the sickness going around in Dec have been the Virus?

    I had it & could not stop coughing & was the worst I felt in along time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    MD1990 wrote: »
    Could the sickness going around in Dec have been the Virus?

    I had it & could not stop coughing & was the worst I felt in along time

    Could well be. So this could be all your fault!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Like I said - they don't want to test anyone

    You know what I laughed when I read that earlier in your post now I'm beginning to wonder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,111 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    You really think that's possible, no test kits. But what about all the ones they've tested negative thus far?? I know the HSE is a joke organization but surely they wouldn't outright lie about something this serious.

    Italy ran out of test kits in certain areas in the past day - it's not that unbelievable
    On top of that it's only about 40% reliable so every person you test needs multiple tests done if they show negative and you have a high degree of certainty they probably are positive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    MD1990 wrote: »
    Could the sickness going around in Dec have been the Virus?

    I had it & could not stop coughing & was the worst I felt in along time

    No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    MD1990 wrote: »
    Could the sickness going around in Dec have been the Virus?

    I had it & could not stop coughing & was the worst I felt in along time

    That sickness was absolutely terrible. Felt like I was going to die as the NYE countdown went on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    No

    Why not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Why not?

    Explained earlier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,726 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Can't see Northern Italy not being locked down in two weeks time. They aren't going to shift policy after committing to this and they aren't going to have enough of a slowdown given the starting numbers.


    Would be one of the easier regions to close off from a logistical perspective given the relative paucity of entry points to it for its size.
    But a logistical nightmare if it happened, both for the amount of stuff that's produced there and trucked/railed/shipped out, and for the stuff that's transported through either north south or east west.
    Very hard to avoid that region when traveling across southern Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,111 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Why not?

    If you believe the China timeline then there wouldn't have been enough time elapsed for that to happen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭wylo


    Ok, time for some perspective. Taking away very elderly, people on their death beds and people who were very sick already with serious pre-existing conditions then the danger of this disease is proving to not be insanely dramatic at all.

    Taking into account 800/900 people died in France last June due to heatwaves, mostly of the same category as above , but we didn’t panic because we understood exactly what happened and why.

    The damage psychologically that this is doing is what’s giving it it’s most potency. The adult generation now come from a generation who have access to news, media, have seen lots of doomsday movies but are also a lot more knowledgable about disease spread.

    So I am not suggesting we change our actions and stop taking it seriously, but I am suggesting we stop panicking and being too dramatic about this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Explained earlier.

    Couldn’t be bothered reading back. You have absolutely no idea what the poster was suffering with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Andrew00 wrote: »
    His colleagues tested positive but HSE said to him you'll be grand

    Fantastic. It's a good job this thing isn't contagious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    wylo wrote: »
    Ok, time for some perspective. Taking away very elderly, people on their death beds and people who were very sick already with serious pre-existing conditions then the danger of this disease is proving to not insanely dramatic at all.

    Taking into account 800/900 people died in France last June due to heatwaves, mostly of the same category as above , but we didn’t panic because we understood exactly what happened and why.

    The damage psychologically that this is doing is what’s giving it it’s most potency. The adult generation now come from a generation who have access to news, media, have seen lots of doomsday movies but are also a lot more knowledgable about disease spread.

    So I am not suggesting we change our actions and stop taking it seriously, but I am suggesting we stop panicking and being too dramatic about this.

    Tell that to the governments locking people in their homes from China to Italy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    I'm beginning to feel like the HSE want to bury their heads in the sand on this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    fritzelly wrote: »
    If you believe the China timeline then there wouldn't have been enough time elapsed for that to happen

    We don’t know enough to say whether or which. But people on here have their agendas so leave them off.


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