Plastic waste gonemad - everybody do one thing now,!

Xwebstar2. · 19-02-2020 09:19PM #1

I'm cutting back totally on milk

Xwebstar2. · 19-02-2020 09:19PM

Pledge here

Allinall · 19-02-2020 09:23PM

Xwebstar2. wrote: »

I'm cutting back totally on milk

Buy cartons of milk.

Fakediamond · 19-02-2020 09:23PM

Stop putting bananas in plastic bags, it drives me bananas!

corner of hells · 19-02-2020 09:25PM

Xwebstar2. wrote: »

I'm cutting back totally on milk

Totally back to what ?

Doctors room ghost · 19-02-2020 09:26PM

corner of hells wrote: »

Totally back to what ?

Skim milk

Quantum Erasure · 19-02-2020 09:34PM

Allinall wrote: »

Buy cartons of milk.

drink straight from the cow

Airyfairy12 · 19-02-2020 09:38PM

It's a bit ridiculous how much plastic is used for everything to be fair. Fruit and veg dont need to be wrapped and bagged in plastic.
Theres other really good alternatives, recently bought a chocolate bar wrapped in a clear 'plastic' made from wood chippings. I genuinely thought it was real plastic until I read the label, I could literally throw it on the ground or in a compost heap and it would decompose and probably do the soil a bit of good. Theres also a hemp alternative that is really cheap to make. Either of these options, if mass produced, would result in millions of tree and plants being grown for the purpose of making packaging.
Companies and businesses dont care about producing less plastic unless we stop buying their products that are wrapped and packaged in it.

Xwebstar2. · 19-02-2020 09:43PM

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

It's a bit ridiculous how much plastic is used for everything to be fair. Fruit and veg dont need to be wrapped and bagged in plastic.
Theres other really good alternatives, recently bought a chocolate bar wrapped in a clear 'plastic' made from wood chippings. I genuinely thought it was real plastic until I read the label, I could literally throw it on the ground or in a compost heap and it would decompose and probably do the soil a bit of good. Theres also a hemp alternative that is really cheap to make. Either of these options, if mass produced, would result in millions of tree and plants being grown for the purpose of making packaging.
Companies and businesses dont care about producing less plastic unless we stop buying their products that are wrapped and packaged in it.

It's getting worse

The supermarket meat counters are closing and they're packaging mince and pork chops

All this plastic crap is being shipped out to under resourced countries, half of it burnt

Jeff bezos is posting his crap everywhere too

BanditLuke · 19-02-2020 09:46PM

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

It's a bit ridiculous how much plastic is used for everything to be fair. Fruit and veg dont need to be wrapped and bagged in plastic.
Theres other really good alternatives, recently bought a chocolate bar wrapped in a clear 'plastic' made from wood chippings. I genuinely thought it was real plastic until I read the label, I could literally throw it on the ground or in a compost heap and it would decompose and probably do the soil a bit of good. Theres also a hemp alternative that is really cheap to make. Either of these options, if mass produced, would result in millions of tree and plants being grown for the purpose of making packaging.
Companies and businesses dont care about producing less plastic unless we stop buying their products that are wrapped and packaged in it.

Can you smoke those hemp wrappers? Asking for eh a friend.

risteard7 · 19-02-2020 09:46PM

It's just the cool Hipster trend atm, it'll go away shortly. The same with Veganism

Airyfairy12 · 19-02-2020 09:49PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Can you smoke those hemp wrappers? Asking for eh a friend.

Try it and get back to me haha

pgj2015 · 19-02-2020 09:51PM

what gets me is the packaging that says not yet recyclable, one well know supermarket has a load of products with this message written on them. like when is it going to be recyclable? its not good enough in this day and age.

Ubbquittious · 19-02-2020 09:52PM

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

It's a bit ridiculous how much plastic is used for everything to be fair. Fruit and veg dont need to be wrapped and bagged in plastic.
Theres other really good alternatives, recently bought a chocolate bar wrapped in a clear 'plastic' made from wood chippings. I genuinely thought it was real plastic until I read the label, I could literally throw it on the ground or in a compost heap and it would decompose and probably do the soil a bit of good. Theres also a hemp alternative that is really cheap to make. Either of these options, if mass produced, would result in millions of tree and plants being grown for the purpose of making packaging.
Companies and businesses dont care about producing less plastic unless we stop buying their products that are wrapped and packaged in it.

Was it 99 or 100% cocao?

Xwebstar2. · 19-02-2020 09:53PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

what gets me is the packaging that says not yet recyclable, one well know supermarket has a load of products with this message written on them. like when is it going to be recyclable? its not good enough in this day and age.

When they're forced to make it recyclable

And when are we all going to take responsibility for all the waste and cut back and stop sending all our crap to Malaysia and other backwaters

Airyfairy12 · 19-02-2020 09:58PM

Ubbquittious wrote: »

Was it 99 or 100% cocao?

It was 'milk' chocolate but branded as vegan. I dont think thats any reason to dismiss it. Its a really good alternative to plastic. Just goes to show it can be done.

Ubbquittious · 19-02-2020 10:00PM

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

It was 'milk' chocolate but branded as vegan. I dont think thats any reason to dismiss it. Its a really good alternative to plastic. Just goes to show it can be done.

Think i saw it on a pack of 100% wondering now what yhe brand is and if tis the same stuff

19-02-2020 10:04PM

risteard7 wrote: »

It's just the cool Hipster trend atm, it'll go away shortly. The same with Veganism

You know what will disappear soon? Various species of sealife.

I'm sure you'll have an edgy comment when that happens too.

Airyfairy12 · 19-02-2020 10:05PM

Ubbquittious wrote: »

Think i saw it on a pack of 100% wondering now what yhe brand is and if tis the same stuff

It was galaxy but im sure different brands are doing it.
it was really nice, id recommend it

Alf Veedersane · 19-02-2020 10:13PM

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

It's a bit ridiculous how much plastic is used for everything to be fair. Fruit and veg dont need to be wrapped and bagged in plastic.
Theres other really good alternatives, recently bought a chocolate bar wrapped in a clear 'plastic' made from wood chippings. I genuinely thought it was real plastic until I read the label, I could literally throw it on the ground or in a compost heap and it would decompose and probably do the soil a bit of good. Theres also a hemp alternative that is really cheap to make. Either of these options, if mass produced, would result in millions of tree and plants being grown for the purpose of making packaging.
Companies and businesses dont care about producing less plastic unless we stop buying their products that are wrapped and packaged in it.

But you won't throw it on the ground but you'll put it in a bin and it will likely be landfilled.

There are a lot of these 'compostable' materials on the market aren't as great as they make out...the time taken to fully decompose. If they end up a composting facility, yeah they can decompose in 3 months. If you drop then on the ground or throw them on a compost heap at home, it will take more than a year.

Biodegradable is largely meaningless.

railer201 · 19-02-2020 10:14PM

Go back to the source - stop manufacturing non-recyclable plastics !

Alf Veedersane · 19-02-2020 10:23PM

The worst example of the nonsense is a hotel café supplying individually-wrapped sugar cubes with a cup of tea or coffee. Madness.

Ubbquittious · 19-02-2020 10:24PM

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

It was galaxy but im sure different brands are doing it.
it was really nice, id recommend it

Twas this crowd I saw it with first. Looked jist like plastic film

https://vivani.de/en/vivani-en/

Ubbquittious · 19-02-2020 10:25PM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

But you won't throw it on the ground but you'll put it in a bin and it will likely be landfilled.

There are a lot of these 'compostable' materials on the market aren't as great as they make out...the time taken to fully decompose. If they end up a composting facility, yeah they can decompose in 3 months. If you drop then on the ground or throw them on a compost heap at home, it will take more than a year.

Biodegradable is largely meaningless.

Sure once it isnt 100s of years tis a big improvement. Better still if it doesnt come from crude oil

Lemsiper · 19-02-2020 10:26PM

Get mine in glass bottles.

Airyfairy12 · 19-02-2020 10:26PM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

But you won't throw it on the ground but you'll put it in a bin and it will likely be landfilled.

There are a lot of these 'compostable' materials on the market aren't as great as they make out...the time taken to fully decompose. If they end up a composting facility, yeah they can decompose in 3 months. If you drop then on the ground or throw them on a compost heap at home, it will take more than a year.

Biodegradable is largely meaningless.

I didnt throw it in the bin and thats not the point.. compared to plastic, which will likely never decompose, 3 months to a year decomposition sounds good to me.

the_pen_turner · 19-02-2020 10:30PM

it would go a long way if the governemnt just banned all unneccisery plastic . make it so you have to justify its use.
i hve no problem using plastic when its required and the best material for its job.
the problem is unneccisery plastic. . everything is wraped several times for no reason.

look at the drinking straw ban. the straw needs to be durable etc and plastic is a good material for that . it is justified to a point using plastic until we can replace it with something better. cardboard or paper that is being use is just a waste . it doesnt do the job and just ends up a soggy mess. . look at the plastic lid you get on a milkshake or sofdrink that lid doesnt need to be plastic. being plastic is way over kill and unnessisery.
we need proper control over all packaging not just ban everything

the biggest problem is that it is the consumer who has to dispose of it but has almost no control over it

Alf Veedersane · 19-02-2020 11:35PM

Ubbquittious wrote: »

Sure once it isnt 100s of years tis a big improvement. Better still if it doesnt come from crude oil

Yes and no.

Yes, it's better that it isn't produced from crude oil.
No, insofar as they will likely end up in a landfill/incinerator anyway.

Crock Rock · 19-02-2020 11:36PM

Why don't we have a return system for plastic and glass like on most of the mainland?

20c a bottle adds up.

Alf Veedersane · 19-02-2020 11:41PM

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

I didnt throw it in the bin and thats not the point.. compared to plastic, which will likely never decompose, 3 months to a year decomposition sounds good to me.

The point I was making was that items sold as greener options aren't hugely better in some cases. I have seen materials peddled as compostable but the claims are dubious and is little more than greenwashing.

For example, I don't think cafes should be allowed sell compostable cups or the standard disposable cups. There should be a ban on all of them and they only have reusable cups on sale so you either bring your own or buy a reusable cup.

Rufeo · 19-02-2020 11:46PM

Xwebstar2. wrote: »

I'm cutting back totally on milk

I don't know.... Is there something to be said for recycling?

Plastic waste gonemad - everybody do one thing now,!

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