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James Brown · 11-02-2020 09:09PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Which is what the SF voters around here actually want. They want FG back in power. An astonishing loss of face to be honest. Terrified of the prospect of government. Barstool republicans.

‘These are my principles. If you don’t like them I have others’ springs to mind as an apt quote.

If FG and Lab end up in opposition at least they can't rubber stamp any sweet deals at a loss to the tax payer.

Plumbthedepths · 11-02-2020 09:14PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

Reality has set in. I don’t want a bunch of scumbags in power . Imagine the holy show they would make of the country trying to do trade deals etc

We as part of the EU cannot do trade deals on our own. This is a restriction on whoever is in government. You still going to double down on the BS I see.

Loafing Oaf · 11-02-2020 09:14PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

He declared it many times. Then, yes, gave the merest hint of a wobble. But you have to see the overall context. FF will no do a deal with SF. Even if MM were still ruling the option out categorically, some would not accept it - they would just move their line of denial to one of 'well, FF will replace him as leader, and then do a deal'.

But if Martin had simply reiterated the party line re SF on Sunday nobody would be paying any heed to the O'Cuivs and McGuinesses. Until he comes out and does that we're still in limbo AFAICS...

Plumbthedepths · 11-02-2020 09:16PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

Fair enough that girl in Roscommon no problem, what about the ones that are nothing short of thugs?

Why don't you do some research instead of making an absolute idiot of yourself .

Wanderer78 · 11-02-2020 09:27PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

The yoke in Clare owes thousands of unpaid rent her partner is a drug dealer. Dessie Ellis well......,. Up the ra Cullinane. The one in Kildare pissed off on holidays came home elected never even tried. It was a protest vote that went too far and now we are ****ed big time .

relax, sf arent in government yet, and may not make it there at all, even if they get in, they ll be lucky to implement half of their manifesto

Plumbthedepths · 11-02-2020 09:30PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

The yoke in Clare owes thousands of unpaid rent her partner is a drug dealer. Dessie Ellis well......,. Up the ra Cullinane. The one in Kildare pissed off on holidays came home elected never even tried. It was a protest vote that went too far and now we are ****ed big time .

As I told you Dublin airport has good transport links, nothing stopping you. Off you go.

smurgen · 11-02-2020 09:30PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

The yoke in Clare owes thousands of unpaid rent her partner is a drug dealer. Dessie Ellis well......,. Up the ra Cullinane. The one in Kildare pissed off on holidays came home elected never even tried. It was a protest vote that went too far and now we are ****ed big time .

Well if that's what you really think then just remember they're still better than fine Gael.

11-02-2020 09:30PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

The yoke in Clare owes thousands of unpaid rent her partner is a drug dealer. Dessie Ellis well......,. Up the ra Cullinane. The one in Kildare pissed off on holidays came home elected never even tried. It was a protest vote that went too far and now we are ****ed big time .

Thought RTE and the media were running a smear campaign against sf according to yourself over the last few weeks of your posts

Water John · 11-02-2020 09:33PM

That must have been Zetor 18

JohnnyFlash · 11-02-2020 09:37PM

efanton wrote: »

Complete B0ll0x and you know it.

If this is the FG view point then here's a proportion that Mary Lou would jump at.

SF forms a minority government with an agreement that FG not force or support a general election within 3 years through a confidence motion.

Would you support that?

No. Why would I when there’s a perfectly valid coalition available which includes the parties who were given a mandate for change - SF, Greens, Soc Dems. People don’t want FG involved in government. We need to respect the wishes of the people.

SF now need to represent these people and enter government. Shouting from the sidelines isn’t going to cut the mustard.

Plumbthedepths · 11-02-2020 09:39PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

I just said it was a protest vote that went too far. Most of the scummers elected were never heard of, couldn’t even get a few dozen votes in the local elections a few months ago. And I would get a one way ticket but unfortunately it’s not possible so I’m going have to stay working and have half my pay go to anto on the dole in his Celtic jersey .

Half your pay? You don't lose half your pay in tax. Your trolling is pathetic.

Dravokivich · 11-02-2020 09:41PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Half your pay? You don't lose half your pay in tax. Your trolling is pathetic.

V.A.T?

The Rape of Lucretia · 11-02-2020 09:42PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

No. Why would I when there’s a perfectly valid coalition available which includes the parties who were given a mandate for change - SF, Greens, Soc Dems. People don’t want FG involved in government. We need to respect the wishes of the people.

SF now need to represent these people and enter government. Shouting from the sidelines isn’t going to cut the mustard.

No party was given a mandate. 159 TDs were elected, only.

The wishes of the people kept 132 seats as they were. 26 movers is not an earthquake of change. Rather, its a strong vote for the status quo.

Not sure if you are one of those peddling the change illusion Johnny, or you have been actually taken in by it.

Plumbthedepths · 11-02-2020 09:42PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

No. Why would I when there’s a perfectly valid coalition available which includes the parties who were given a mandate for change - SF, Greens, Soc Dems. People don’t want FG involved in government. We need to respect the wishes of the people.

SF now need to represent these people and enter government. Shouting from the sidelines isn’t going to cut the mustard.

Johnny I know you're not an idiot but SF or any other party cannot form a government without the numbers. The numbers in the parties you have mentioned just don't stack up. 54 based on your suggestion. Just 26 seats short. 20% of the voters voted for FG I assume on the basis they would be in government.

JohnnyFlash · 11-02-2020 09:50PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Johnny I know you're not an idiot but SF or any other party cannot form a government without the numbers. The numbers in the parties you have mentioned just don't stack up. 54 based on your suggestion. Just 26 seats short. 20% of the voters voted for FG I assume on the basis they would be in government.

I meant with FF. Sorry I didn’t make that clear. SF, Greens and Soc Dems would have far more seats than FF and could use that to implement the radical change people voted for.

The will of the people needs to be respected, and SF have been given a huge vote by people who were won over by their manifesto and story of change. People don’t want more of the same. They rejected that.

Water John · 11-02-2020 09:55PM

FF are the ultimate, pragmatic party. If it can fly at all, they'll go with it. All about power.

Plumbthedepths · 11-02-2020 09:55PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I meant with FF. Sorry I didn’t make that clear. SF, Greens and Soc Dems would have far more seats than FF and could use that to implement the radical change people voted for.

The will of the people needs to be respected, and SF have been given a huge vote by people who were won over by their manifesto and story of change. People don’t want more of the same. They rejected that.

You may have missed this but FF are adamant they are not going into government with SF. That huge vote is two seats more than FG and one less than FF.
Now read the above again. Any big words let me know and I 'll try to break it down in a simpler manner for you.
The numbers don't work.

jimmycrackcorm · 11-02-2020 09:57PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I meant with FF. Sorry I didn’t make that clear. SF, Greens and Soc Dems would have far more seats than FF and could use that to implement the radical change people voted for.

The will of the people needs to be respected, and SF have been given a huge vote by people who were won over by their manifesto and story of change. People don’t want more of the same. They rejected that.

If it's the will of the people then why are there almost twice as many FG and FF TDs than SF?

campo · 11-02-2020 10:01PM

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

If it's the will of the people then why are there almost twice as many FG and FF TDs than SF?

Because SF did not run enough candidates.

limnam · 11-02-2020 10:05PM

Now the election is over harris is allowed back on the tele

shenanagans · 11-02-2020 10:06PM

campo wrote: »

Because SF did not run enough candidates.

SF got 24.5% of vote......so 3 out of 4 people did not vote for SF.

SF will get a couple of weeks to mess around, made look like fools as they realise the maths doesn't work out......before the FF/FG/Greens coalition is announced.

jos28 · 11-02-2020 10:07PM

shenanagans wrote: »

SF got 24.5% of vote......so 3 out of 4 people did not vote for SF.

SF will get a couple of weeks to mess around, made look like fools as they realise the maths doesn't work out......before the FF/FG/Greens coalition is announced.

Fingers crossed that you are right

shenanagans · 11-02-2020 10:09PM

jos28 wrote: »

Fingers crossed that you are right

They couldn't implement their policies of they have to satisfy the shopping list of a dozen independent TDs...

Plumbthedepths · 11-02-2020 10:10PM

shenanagans wrote: »

SF got 24.5% of vote......so 3 out of 4 people did not vote for SF.

SF will get a couple of weeks to mess around, made look like fools as they realise the maths doesn't work out......before the FF/FG/Greens coalition is announced.

Then SF become the largest party on the opposition benches which I suspect is their true goal . ....Hint they already know the maths don't work as does everyone with half a brain.

shenanagans · 11-02-2020 10:14PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Then SF become the largest party on the opposition benches which I suspect is their true goal . ....Hint they already know the maths don't work as does everyone with half a brain.

Well they need a govt in place to see the Brexit trade deal agreed......then another election next year I'd say.

JohnnyFlash · 11-02-2020 10:16PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Then SF become the largest party on the opposition benches which I suspect is their true goal . ....Hint they already know the maths don't work as does everyone with half a brain.

SF aiming to become the lead party of opposition is a cowardly act and a complete volte face for the people who voted for their candidates to top the poll in almost every constituency.

Zetor19 · 11-02-2020 10:16PM

I doubt they do know the maths to be honest. 65 k for a house . Sure you wouldn’t get a bathroom for it.

Eric Cartman · 11-02-2020 10:16PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

I doubt they do know the maths to be honest. 65 k for a house . Sure you wouldn’t get a bathroom for it.

this is my thing, how the hell are they going to build these cheap houses, how is the construction cost going to go down.

Plumbthedepths · 11-02-2020 10:17PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

SF aiming to become the lead party of opposition is a cowardly act and a complete volte face for the people who voted for their candidates to top the poll in almost every constituency.

The numbers don't work for a SF lead government, surely a clever lad like you can operate the adding function of a calculator?

Plumbthedepths · 11-02-2020 10:19PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

I doubt they do know the maths to be honest. 65 k for a house . Sure you wouldn’t get a bathroom for it.

Can you provide a link for these 65k house's?

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