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  • #1652
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,730 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »







    It is the usual SF tactic you are exhibiting deflect, deny, discredit.

    This must be approaching a 48 hr tirade Gormdubh. Relax.


  • #1653
    GreenandRed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭GreenandRed


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    Not true any so called lying is manufactured by you unfortunately.
    Read my previous posts on this thread I clearly metioned Mary Lou banner NY
    Again no answer to the question of why Mary Lou had to apologise.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=112511355








    It is the usual SF tactic you are exhibiting deflect, deny, discredit.


    More trolling. Ignoring my original message, fabricating the banner slogan, no mention of any of the stuff you reply with. If I ask you is it raining you'd reply with the history of Met Eireann and avoid the question.


  • #1654
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,249 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    The FG shills are so busy being ignorant and plain rude about the people voted SF they are giving FF a pass. But that's the FF/FG plan.
    A party that have put us in generational debt looking to be back in after FG creating and exacerbating crises.
    We know what FF are like in government, but go on sure....

    Obviously you give all of the following a 'pass' do you?

    SF have actually widened the gap between rich and poor in NI

    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/02/10/celebrating-sinn-fein-election-surge-consider-their-pro-austerity-record-north



    Health NI:

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2019/1204/1097090-northern-ireland-health/

    https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:RVTQ7CyHeagJ:https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/thousands-of-nurses-in-northern-ireland-strike-over-pay-1.4133733+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie

    Housing NI:

    https://thedetail.tv/articles/social-housing-bb946a8a-43df-450d-b8cd-66d71030cdf3

    Homelessness NI:

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/more-quarter-recent-uk-homeless-21114251

    Social Welfare NI:

    https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3Kdvi9pOC4gJ:https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/sinn-f%25C3%25A9in-under-fire-over-welfare-cuts-move-1.2435441+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie


    No governance in Stormont for over three years


    Worse still SF sat on thier hands for three years playing games with the DUP in Stormont.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/10/pressure-mounts-northern-irish-parties-restore-power-sharing-sinn-fein-dup

    That is before we get into murderers and/or cover ups of murderers.

    I notice you still have found nothing comparable that current members of FF FG labour in the dail have done like SF murder and cover up of same that a poster asked of you before.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #1655
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,249 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    GreenandRed wrote: »
    More trolling. Ignoring my original message, fabricating the banner slogan, no mention of any of the stuff you reply with. If I ask you is it raining you'd reply with the history of Met Eireann and avoid the question.

    There was no fabricating you are only seeing what you want to see and/or clearly cannot read.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #1656
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Gynoid wrote: »
    We know what SF are like in a barn, but go on sure....

    Could have been Fine Gael. The shadowy figures run FG from the K club.


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  • #1657
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    The majority of people iv'e spoken with this morning could care less about the up the Ra comments or SF's past. The usual suspects in the media are lapping it up though (Newstalk's morning show where creaming themselves over it earlier) but people have moved past that and are only interested in the country being fixed.


  • #1658
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    That is what SF played on ROI ignorance of their policeis in NI and cluelessness on Brexit, and it worked the dual strategy.
    ..

    They supported and backed Coveney on Brexit. Quit lying.
    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    Not true any so called lying is manufactured by you unfortunately.
    Read my previous posts on this thread I clearly metioned Mary Lou banner NY
    Again no answer to the question of why Mary Lou had to apologise.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=112511355It is the usual SF tactic you are exhibiting deflect, deny, discredit.

    Nobody give a f*** gorm. No deflection, not arsed.


  • #1659
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,249 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    This must be approaching a 48 hr tirade Gormdubh. Relax.

    You describe is as a tirade I see it as a push back against the myth-making cohort of yourself Matt Barrett, Green and Red and KWAG2019.

    Granted there may be no hope for this cohort either, duped, brainwashed, indoctrinated or naive.

    Not only that the amount of double talking by some of that cohort is saddening and dismissal of serious issues.

    But I do hope I have educated others who may have voted for SF blindly, on the basis of vague promises. If only one of those feels regret or shame for voting SF I feel justified.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #1660
    GreenandRed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭GreenandRed


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    There are messages on this from SF -

    2002 AENGUS Ó SNODAIGH open letter to the times on SF racism policy

    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/sinn-fein-policy-on-racism-1.1050135


    "Any member of Sinn Féin who makes racist remarks or is involved in any activity, which is racist, will be immediately expelled from the party"

    Yet they have had to use those procedures this very year 2020.
    Note not 1920, not 1970, not 1990.

    https://www.irishpost.com/news/sinn-fein-councillor-accused-racism-leo-varadkar-says-comments-misinterpreted-177445

    There is no doubt that SF attracts the disenchanted, foreigners out/taking our jobs types - working class - types like Paddy Holohan. They always will.
    It happens when the mantra is to tell people to get out rather than inclusiveness.

    _106055664_marylou_england.jpg




    'Mary Lou in NY with the banner - get the english out of Ireland'


    Remarkably bad reading or lying or both?


  • #1661
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,249 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Mixed with more deflection, while claiming it is not deflection

    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    They supported and backed Coveney on Brexit. Quit lying.



    Nobody give a f*** gorm. No deflection, not arsed.



    Probably the greatest SF rhetoric since David Cullinane.....

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • #1662
    GreenandRed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭GreenandRed


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    You describe is as a tirade I see it as a push back against the myth-making cohort of yourself Matt Barrett, Green and Red and KWAG2019.

    Granted there may be no hope for this cohort either, duped, brainwashed, indoctrinated or naive.

    Not only that the amount of double talking by some of that cohort is saddening and dismissal of serious issues.

    But I do hope I have educated others who may have voted for SF blindly, on the basis of vague promises. If only one of those feels regret or shame for voting SF I feel justified.


    You're full of it. Thankfully Fine Gael have plenty of decent honest members. You let them down with your attitude and the rubbish you post here


  • #1663
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    You describe is as a tirade I see it as a push back against the myth-making cohort of yourself Matt Barrett, Green and Red and KWAG2019.

    Granted there may be no hope for this cohort either, duped, brainwashed, indoctrinated or naive.

    Not only that the amount of double talking by some of that cohort is saddening and dismissal of serious issues.

    But I do hope I have educated others who may have voted for SF blindly, on the basis of vague promises. If only one of those feels regret or shame for voting SF I feel justified.

    You are boards own Hedda Hopper.
    Might you not have been better posting all this bile and ignorance before the election? If you want to educate stop misrepresenting other posters and calm yourself.
    You not worried about FF at all?


  • #1664
    GreenandRed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭GreenandRed


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    Mixed with more deflection, while claiming it is not deflection

    Probably the greatest SF rhetoric since David Cullinane.....




    Maybe you're Maria Bailey.


  • #1665
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,249 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    You are boards own Hedda Hopper.
    Might you not have been better posting all this bile and ignorance before the election? If you want to educate stop misrepresenting other posters and calm yourself.
    You not worried about FF at all?

    More Matt Barrett deflection nothing answered as per.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #1666
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    More Matt Barrett deflection nothing answered as per.

    Says the lad/lady deflecting...
    Ask me anything Gormo.
    You are lying and pretending and inferring.


  • #1667
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,730 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    You describe is as a tirade I see it as a push back against the myth-making cohort of yourself Matt Barrett, Green and Red and KWAG2019.

    Granted there may be no hope for this cohort either, duped, brainwashed, indoctrinated or naive.

    Not only that the amount of double talking by some of that cohort is saddening and dismissal of serious issues.

    But I do hope I have educated others who may have voted for SF blindly, on the basis of vague promises. If only one of those feels regret or shame for voting SF I feel justified.

    What 'mythmaking' have I engaged in?


  • #1668
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,249 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    GreenandRed wrote: »
    'Mary Lou in NY with the banner - get the english out of Ireland'


    Remarkably bad reading or lying or both?

    I fail to see where you are having difficultly with this.

    Mary Lou was in New York - NY is short for NY.

    I also mentioned naive rich Irish Americans relating to it in another post - but for some reason you seem confused.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #1669
    GreenandRed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭GreenandRed


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Ask me anything Gormo.
    You are lying and pretending and inferring.


    Matt. He's best ignored. Just a troll looking for a reaction.


  • #1670
    GreenandRed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭GreenandRed


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    I fail to see where you are having difficultly with this.

    Mary Lou was in New York - NY is short for NY.

    I also mentioned naive rich Irish Americans relating to it in another post - but for some reason you seem confused.




    No you don't. You made up what the banner say, invented a new context. That's all I replied to you about. You're a troll. CU next Tuesday.


  • #1671
    Yurt2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Whatever about a housing shortage, there's definately going to be a psychologist shortage in Ireland with all the shattered psyches among FG supporters. In the seven stages of grief, I think we're witnessing anger and bargaining at the moment - acceptance is a long way off, but the poor craythurs will get there someday.


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  • #1672
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    The majority of people iv'e spoken with this morning could care less about the up the Ra comments or SF's past. The usual suspects in the media are lapping it up though (Newstalk's morning show where creaming themselves over it earlier) but people have moved past that and are only interested in the country being fixed.


    Sure that is just limited to the circles in which you yourself move. It might be more of a reflection of that rather than general population.


  • #1673
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    GreenandRed wrote: »
    Matt. He's best ignored. Just a troll looking for a reaction.

    I think the memo 'ignore FF, go after SF' from the shadowy figures in FG HQ needs updating.


  • #1674
    bladespin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭bladespin


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    Sure that is just limited to the circles in which you yourself move. It might be more of a reflection of that rather than general population.

    Don't think so, the faux outrage is getting more commentary than the Ra comment itself.
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  • #1675
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    bladespin wrote: »
    Don't think so, the faux outrage is getting more commentary than the Ra comment itself.

    It's very bratty. I'd expect if from the likes of Varadkar, but I assumed the average FG'er would have a little more common or garden grace in defeat.


  • #1676
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,249 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Says the lad/lady deflecting...
    Ask me anything Gormo.
    You are lying and pretending and inferring.

    Rubbish you have answered nothing -

    1) Why chose the name of Leo's partner if you are so vehemently anti-FG?

    2) Why claim that you are a first time SF voter prior to the election?

    3) Then after the election why imply that you did not vote SF?

    4) Why have you not found anything comparable to SF murders and/or cover ups of same with current representatives in the dail - other than SF?

    5) Why do you try and deflect these issues by claiming FG damaged the country? When they renegotiated Brexit, recovered the economy. Why the denial of FG achievements?

    6) Not only that you have the gall to claim and/or imply that anything FG reps may have done - aka Maria Bailey is much worse than murder or cover ups of same?
    Why the dismissal of murders cover ups and a questionable approach to justice by SF in such a glib manner?

    7) You have notably given no comment on SF's record in governance in NI for the last 22 years. Which have many of the problems or worse which you claim FG caused in the ROI. Why no comment on this?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #1677
    jmayo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,227 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    I see sheep wrote: »
    I was born in the 80s and both my parents had solid public service jobs straight out of Uni/College and owned a house in south Dublin at age 24.

    'There were no iPhones, Xboxes'

    Owning a house / secure long term rent is more important that having an Xbox I think.

    And luckily a lot of voters agree.

    It's why SF won! :cool:

    Housing crisis deniers keep pretending there's no problem.

    Sunshine you were born into a pretty priviledged position because the vast vast majority of people born in the 80s hadn't two parents who had been to college nor two parents who walked into "solid public service jobs" upon leaving it, never mind were able to buy a house in South Dublin by age 24.

    And the fact that you spew that out as some sort of norm really highlights how little you know of our history.
    I suppose that makes you an ideal voter for sinn fein.

    BTW no one is denying there is a housing problem, but as shure as hell we aint claiming that years ago was some utopia like you had the priviledge of being born into.

    BTW can the sinn fein supporters please tell us how exactly they are going to solve housing and healthcare?

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • #1678
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    Yurt! wrote: »
    Whatever about a housing shortage, there's definately going to be a psychologist shortage in Ireland with all the shattered psyches among FG supporters. In the seven stages of grief, I think we're witnessing anger and bargaining at the moment - acceptance is a long way off, but the poor craythurs will get there someday.

    Those psychologists will have a bit of practice under their belt so, because they are going to need it when Matt and yourself turn up in your berets wondering why Sinn Fein did not fix housing or health or .....well....practically anything :D


  • #1679
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,249 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    What 'mythmaking' have I engaged in?

    That is more your two comrades who thanked your post - Matt Barrett, and Green and Red- that is thier strengths.

    Yours is the man of straw argument so you can keep moving the goal posts - National Anthem - Leo and the Collins pic etc etc

    By far the best at deflection artist and mythmaker has to be Matt Barrett not only does he/she not answer questions directly - but distorts the truth.
    Does things like telling people to forget the past, then brings up the past when it suits.
    A SF Councillor in the making at least

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #1680
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,499 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    GreenandRed wrote: »
    Matt. He's best ignored. Just a troll looking for a reaction.
    GreenandRed wrote: »
    No you don't. You made up what the banner say, invented a new context. That's all I replied to you about. You're a troll. CU next Tuesday.

    If you have a problem with a post or poster report it and leave the modding to the mods


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  • #1681
    patmac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,591 ✭✭✭patmac


    Anyway thoughts of a Squeezed Middle culchie ‘never going to vote for Sinn Fein’ 58 year old. I was watching prime time last night and it’s all so depressing. The current shower have a look outside the Dail windows and see the cranes and the place awash with money and think everything is grand.
    I’m as badly off as I was in 2008 except I’m expected to work more and for another 3 years before I can retire.
    I’m fortunate and I’m pissed of with the government, I can only imagine how the younger generation feel living to survive, although anyone who left school in the early 80’s will relate.

    I thought give Sinn Fein a go until that fool started singing ‘up the ra’ and you think oh yeah this is why I didn’t vote for them.
    Anyway the next government will be FF-FG or most likely FF-SF so telpis (Dublin inner City Centre Facebook word for God Help Us)


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