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GE Exit Poll 10 pm

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Well if Ireland is booming again, the LPT can surely be abolished now. Friday you were all saying FG fixed the economy!

    Where did all the wasters who voted for SF come from if we have full employment?
    What exactly is the purpose of the LPT in your opinion?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,264 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Just wondering did the whole vote mess hurt lisa chambers ? I was surprised to hear her lose her seat but I’m wondering what role that played. I see Niall Collins of FF got in so didn’t hurt him but I see Timmy Dooley in RTE saying he’s in a bit of bother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Have to fill in the gap between votes I suppose

    Just not those two


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,108 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Some projections now saying it will be FF 41 FG 39 and SF 38
    FF/fg plus ceann comhairle plus grealish and Lowry and Naughten.
    There's a govt right out of the civil war gene pool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    You can't use a true like for like example, it doesn't fit their narrative!

    NOT VALID! Evreyone knows societies North of 55 degrees latitude have optimal conditions for decent healthcare and societal conditions, and Ireland is effected by the North Atlantic Current which means WE SHOULDN'T EVEN TRY.

    Honestly, try reading a book sometime dole sponger.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,264 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Some projections now saying it will be FF 41 FG 39 and SF 38

    Sure wasn’t it said by at least one maybe two experts that FF would be getting 60 seats or there abouts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Ah ok. Right, so we should tax the public service high earners more than the private sector earners, or how would that work?

    By the way, did you actually read the Sinn Fein manifesto? Because you’re in for a shock when you do!

    they already allow certain private sector high paid workers, a lower rate of income tax. the SF will actually force those massively overpaid in the case of the PS and CS and rte to stump up thousands more. its with the private sector , this creates an issue...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Plenty of gene pool Independents as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    is_that_so wrote: »
    That's a straight off tax loss and LPT screws council funding. Their "costed" bill is €18bn, most of which Apple apparently will pay for.

    these councils cost themselves a fortune every year. DCC even now are trying to stop johnny ronan from putting a few more floors on a low rise building in the docklands. Not enough money here for everything and they for decades here have cost us billions in investment and this is still the case now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,264 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I’m probably getting ahead of myself but it’ll be interesting to see who is elected Ceann Comhairle in the next dail. You’d assume a SF candidate would be in the mix. Dessie Ellis maybe ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    these councils cost themselves a fortune every year. DCC even now are trying to stop johnny ronan from putting a few more floors on a low rise building in the docklands. Not enough money here for everything and they for decades here have cost us billions in investment and this is still the case now!
    But they still cost and we're back to scraping the general expenditure pot for even more things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭Jizique


    https://twitter.com/john_mcguirk/status/1226844404691939328

    Agree completely with this.

    If you're struggling to put a roof over your head or food on the table do you really give a damn how many women may be elected?

    Out of touch.

    Those issues will really kick in when the loony left get in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    is_that_so wrote: »
    What exactly is the purpose of the LPT in your opinion?

    to fund the reckless councils, nearly all of whom vote to reduce it every chance they can. Then complain there isnt enough for social housing! But it gets better, they then source the most expensive housing possible on a twenty five year lease in the case of dundrum luxury apartments, the start of many!

    the councils here are morons! they need a new housing agency...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    I’m probably getting ahead of myself but it’ll be interesting to see who is elected Ceann Comhairle in the next dail. You’d assume a SF candidate would be in the mix. Dessie Ellis maybe ?

    That would be fcuking hilarious. Would definitely generate some imaginative headlines such as "explosive scenes in the dail last night":pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,264 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I see Danny Healy rae has apologised to the planet for his comments yesterday evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    they already allow certain private sector high paid workers, a lower rate of income tax. the SF will actually force those massively overpaid in the case of the PS and CS and rte to stump up thousands more. its with the private sector , this creates an issue...

    Which private sector high paid workers are allowed a lower rate of income tax?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,264 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    McMurphy wrote: »
    That would be fcuking hilarious. Would definitely generate some imaginative headlines such as "explosive scenes in the dail last night":pac:

    As I said I’m getting ahead of myself trying to not listen to Ruth Coppinger, Shane Ross and James Reilly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    The RTE player, could you play a more interesting tune, while on a break from election coverage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,443 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Well if Ireland is booming again, the LPT can surely be abolished now. Friday you were all saying FG fixed the economy!

    Where did all the wasters who voted for SF come from if we have full employment?

    LPT is a very sensible tax.

    We lead Europe in non-working.

    We lead Europe in inactive adults / inactive households.

    See here:

    https://www.esri.ie/sites/default/files/media/file-uploads/2020-01/Slides_1.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Which private sector high paid workers are allowed a lower rate of income tax?

    https://www.thejournal.ie/tax-scheme-multinationals-ireland-4815711-Sep2019/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    CC is the first job. If FF leave the same guy forward, don't think they'll be any major opposition. He has been very fair and popular.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Geuze wrote: »
    LPT is a very sensible tax.

    We lead Europe in non-working.

    We lead Europe in inactive adults / inactive households.

    See here:

    https://www.esri.ie/sites/default/files/media/file-uploads/2020-01/Slides_1.pdf

    yeah and house many of them in social housing for nothing , give them a few hundred a week and then, they dont even make a contribution to the local council!!! LOOOOLLLLLLLLLL!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,443 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    https://www.sinnfein.ie/files/2020/SF_GE2020_Manifesto.pdf

    GIVING WORKERS AND FAMILIES A BREAK – Tax Spend €2.4 BILLION
    - Abolish USC on the first €30,000 earned €1,219 million
    - Abolish Local Property Tax €485 million
    - Increase Earned Income Credit to €1,650 €35 million
    - 1 month rent relief €301 million
    - Retain Mortgage interest relief €35 million
    - Restore tax credit for trade union membership €40 million
    - End Motor tax surcharge for quarterly and 6-month payments €43 million
    - Abolish 3% stamp duty on non-life insurance policies €160 million
    - Abolish 2% levy on non-life insurance policies €69 million




    FUNDING REAL CHANGE AND A BETTER FUTURE – Tax Revenue €3.8 BILLION
    - End the corporation tax break for the banks €175 million
    - Increase income from the annual bank levy €50 million
    - Tax intangible assets onshored by multinationals €722 million
    - Introduce a 5% high income levy on individual incomes above €140,000 €452 million
    - Taper out tax credits on individual incomes over €100,000 to €140,000 €260 million
    - Introduce a wealth tax for the wealthiest 1% in the State at a rate of 1% on the
    portion of net wealth held over €1 million with a number of exemptions including farms €89 million
    Abolish the Special Assignee Relief Programme €23 million
    - Increase Capital Acquisition Tax by 3% to rate of 36% €45 million
    - Reduce subsidies to gold-plated pensions by reducing the earnings
    limit and reducing the Standard Fund Threshold to €1.2 million €494 million
    - Introduce a 15.75% rate of employer’s PRSI on portion of salaries
    over €100,000 €532 million
    - Increase excise duty on a packet of cigarettes over 5 years €175 million
    - Increase Stamp Duty on commercial property to 12.5% €440 million
    - Increase the Dividend Withholding Tax on REITs and IREFs to 33% €20 million
    - Increase the Vacant Site Levy to 15% to prevent land hoarding €107 million
    - Introduce a 2nd home charge at a rate of €400 €104 million
    - Replace Help-to-Buy scheme with pubic and affordable homes €102 million


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,443 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    ADDITIONAL CURRENT SPENDING MEASURES

    *Numbers may not add due to rounding
    € million
    Agriculture, Food and the Marine 90
    Business, Enterprise and Innovation 85
    Children and Youth Affairs 980
    Communications, Climate Action and the Environment 245
    Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht 45
    Defence 15
    Employment Affairs and Social Protection 3,332
    Education and Skills 1,142
    Foreign Affairs and Trade 50
    Health 4,514
    Housing, Planning and Local Government 227
    Justice and Equality 272
    Public Expenditure and Reform 982
    Rural and Community Development 4
    Transport, Tourism and Sport 265
    Irish Unity Forum and Referendum Preparation 10
    TOTAL 12,249*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    that SF proposal , on an individual level. Would actually reward workers more than the other parties propose and if they actually do something on housing , its a bonus...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Water John wrote: »
    CC is the first job. If FF leave the same guy forward, don't think they'll be any major opposition. He has been very fair and popular.

    Really depends on the end numbers

    FF prob can't allow him if they are only the largest party by 2 seats


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,179 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Increase inheritance tax from 3% to 36%!!!

    Wow!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,443 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Increase inheritance tax from 3% to 36%!!!

    Wow!!!

    Not surprising.

    SF want to tax wealth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,264 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Really depends on the end numbers

    FF prob can't allow him if they are only the largest party by 2 seats

    That's true they'll need every seat they can get.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,079 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science




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