Woman raped while sleeping awarded €1m in damages

v638sg7k1a92bx · 06-02-2020 11:49PM #1

I don’t see how she is going to collect the €1m, he lives in Norway and probably doesn’t have the money https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0206/1113681-niamh-ni-dhomhnaill-court/

This is a genuine question and I haven’t followed the case closely, it says she was asleep when she was raped but how does she know she was raped if she was sleeping?

Rufeo · 06-02-2020 11:50PM

Didn't he admit it to her.

Fann Linn · 06-02-2020 11:51PM

Dope.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 06-02-2020 11:52PM

Kenley Rancid Stretcher wrote: »

I don’t see how she is going to collect the €1m, he lives in Norway and probably doesn’t have the money https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0206/1113681-niamh-ni-dhomhnaill-court/

This is a genuine question and I haven’t followed the case closely, it says she was asleep when she was raped but how does she know she was raped if she was sleeping?

It says in the article that he admitted it to her.

Hrududu · 06-02-2020 11:53PM

Kenley Rancid Stretcher wrote: »

This is a genuine question and I haven’t followed the case closely, it says she was asleep when she was raped but how does she know she was raped if she was sleeping?

From the article:

She said he admitted on 29 April 2012 that he had raped her and that this had been going on for some time.

One eyed Jack · 06-02-2020 11:54PM

Kenley Rancid Stretcher wrote: »

This is a genuine question and I haven’t followed the case closely, it says she was asleep when she was raped but how does she know she was raped if she was sleeping?

From the article you linked to:

She said he admitted on 29 April 2012 that he had raped her and that this had been going on for some time. In May 2012, he had admitted in an email that he had used her body for his own gratification.

Ms Ní Dhomhnaill told the jury that receiving the email was "extremely shocking" and disturbing as it laid out in a clinical manner how she had been repeatedly violated in her sleep by him.

TheValeyard · 06-02-2020 11:54PM

Doubt 1million would be enough.

Brussels Sprout · 06-02-2020 11:54PM

Saw this on the news and knew there'd be a thread about it.

sasta le · 06-02-2020 11:58PM

Did she wake when being raped or was she drugged

El_Duderino 09 · 07-02-2020 12:01AM

As Rufeo said, he told her in an email. It's in the article you linked.

P.S. Rufeo is an incredibly apt username for this discussion.

v638sg7k1a92bx · 07-02-2020 12:24AM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

It says in the article that he admitted it to her.

That doesn't mean it's true. I just find it a little bit odd that he admitted to raping someone in their sleep. So if he never told her about it and she was oblivious to what happened would she have suffered all that trauma?

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poisonated · 07-02-2020 12:28AM

Has proof been shown that he actually did admit this?

ohnonotgmail · 07-02-2020 12:37AM

poisonated wrote: »

Has proof been shown that he actually did admit this?

this enough for you?

Hustveit pleaded guilty at the Central Criminal Court to one count of rape and one count of sexual assault against Ms Ní Dhomhnaill between 2011 and 2012, when both were in their 20s.

v638sg7k1a92bx · 07-02-2020 12:38AM

poisonated wrote: »

Has proof been shown that he actually did admit this?

Apparently he admitted to it in an email...
Seems very odd.

v638sg7k1a92bx · 07-02-2020 12:41AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

this enough for you?

Innocent people confess to things they didn't do all the time.

I'm not questioning the verdict as I don't know much about the case but does nobody else think this bizarre that the woman would not be aware of the rape only for he admitted to it in an email and then she starts having panic attacks?

cloudatlas · 07-02-2020 12:43AM

Kenley Rancid Stretcher wrote: »

That doesn't mean it's true. I just find it a little bit odd that he admitted to raping someone in their sleep. So if he never told her about it and she was oblivious to what happened would she have suffered all that trauma?

Assuming you’re a guy. If you were one of the victims of Sinaga the Manchester rapist would you seek justice, I mean you were just passed out when you were anally raped so not traumatised just woke disorientated in a kindly mans flat feeling sore. So em just asking an innocent question here you understand but if you didn’t experience psychological problems after what’s the harm right? https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/01/06/world/europe/reynhard-sinaga-rape.amp.html

ohnonotgmail · 07-02-2020 12:45AM

Kenley Rancid Stretcher wrote: »

Innocent people confess to things they didn't do all the time.

the poster asked for proof he admitted it. said proof was provided.

Peregrine · 07-02-2020 12:56AM

He literally admitted it to her and then pleaded guilty in court and some people are still questioning it. Sigh.

wakka12 · 07-02-2020 12:57AM

How does one not take wake up during rape

Atlantic Dawn · 07-02-2020 12:58AM

What is this guy worth? A million to him might be like €500 to Joe Soap.

greencap · 07-02-2020 12:59AM

cloudatlas wrote: »

Assuming you’re a guy. If you were one of the victims of Sinaga the Manchester rapist would you seek justice, I mean you were just passed out when you were anally raped so not traumatised just woke disorientated in a kindly mans flat feeling sore. So em just asking an innocent question here you understand but if you didn’t experience psychological problems after what’s the harm right? https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/01/06/world/europe/reynhard-sinaga-rape.amp.html

There is the difference that she was actively shagging him.

This whole thing, regardless of judgement, has something annoying and weird about it. It's very Jeremy Kyle, very womens weekly.

I think they'd both be fine with it being made into a highly controversial feature film.

Raconteuse · 07-02-2020 01:01AM

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Saw this on the news and knew there'd be a thread about it.

Same here. And knew there would be suspicion towards her.

KiKi III · 07-02-2020 01:06AM

greencap wrote: »

There is the difference that she was actively shagging him.

This whole thing, regardless of judgement, has something annoying and weird about it. It's very Jeremy Kyle, very womens weekly.

I think they'd both be fine with it being made into a highly controversial feature film.

Is it okay to have non-consensual sex with someone if in other circumstances they have had consensual sex with you?

cloudatlas · 07-02-2020 01:08AM

greencap wrote: »

There is the difference that she was actively shagging him.

This whole thing, regardless of judgement, has something annoying and weird about it. It's very Jeremy Kyle, very womens weekly.

I think they'd both be fine with it being made into a highly controversial feature film.

Both cases involve people who had no knowledge of the rape until they were told by police/ by the boyfriend so they didn’t suffer trauma until they were told and that negates the crime.

Did she strike you as performative? Maybe he just wanted attention, to be highly regarded as a rapist in both Ireland and his native country? We have learned in previous threads that victims want attention, they want people to imagine them being raped by a stranger and to go through a lengthy intrusive trial where they are asked about their sex life for the attention so that could equally be extended to a rapist who wants attention and accolades for the rape, to be caught willingly and reap the obvious benefits of the high profile celebrity that will bring.

Mezcita · 07-02-2020 01:08AM

greencap wrote: »

There is the difference that she was actively shagging him.

This whole thing, regardless of judgement, has something annoying and weird about it. It's very Jeremy Kyle, very womens weekly.

I think they'd both be fine with it being made into a highly controversial feature film.

Jesus wept. The girl later tried to kill herself over the whole thing. So the suggestion that it's annoying is f.ucking stupid. Nearly as stupid as suggesting that she would be happy for it to be made into a movie. If this happened to your mother or sister you would be singing a very different tune.

KiKi III · 07-02-2020 01:09AM

cloudatlas wrote: »

Both cases involve people who had no knowledge of the rape until they were told by police/ by the boyfriend so they didn’t suffer trauma until they were told and that negates the crime.

Did she strike you as performative? Maybe he just wanted attention, to be highly regarded as a rapist in both Ireland and his native country? We have learned in previous threads that victims want attention, they want people to imagine them being raped by a stranger and to go through a lengthy intrusive trial where they are asked about their sex life for the attention so that could equally be extended to a rapist who wants attention and accolades for the rape, to be caught willingly and reap the obvious benefits of the high profile celebrity that will bring.

I don’t think we’ve learned that...

KiKi III · 07-02-2020 01:13AM

I am not a fan of the term “rape culture” - I don’t think it’s generally a helpful way of describing how rape is understood in society.

But when a man has admitted to rape in detail in an email to his victim and then pleaded guilty in court to the same crime, but men here are still somehow trying to claim he’s probably isn’t, I can’t think of a better term to describe it.

Geuze · 07-02-2020 01:13AM

Who pays the 1m?

The State?

The ex-boyfriend?

The house insurance?

cloudatlas · 07-02-2020 01:15AM

KiKi III wrote: »

I don’t think we’ve learned that...

I’m being facetious.

greencap · 07-02-2020 01:16AM

KiKi III wrote: »

Is it okay to have non-consensual sex with someone if in other circumstances they have had consensual sex with you?

Are you from jupiter.

07-02-2020 01:17AM

Calling this rape makes a mockery of actual RAPE..

Woman raped while sleeping awarded €1m in damages

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