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Social Media Narcissists

  • 04-02-2020 08:44AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,944 ✭✭✭


    What do people make of these? Instagram seems to be saturated with them. You have these people who look pretty, have amazing physiques or both. They post selfies in various poses or else do little dance routines which always seem to be accompanied by God awful rap/rnb music. The same people normally have thousands, if not millions of followers.

    Are these people just shameless narcissists or does posting all this stuff inspire both themselves and their followers be more confident and aware of their self image?

    ”If I offended you, you needed it!!” - Corey Taylor



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  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Are these people just shameless narcissists or does posting all this stuff inspire both themselves and their followers be more confident and aware of their self image?

    They are narcissistic but there is also no limit to the amount of idiots that put stock into them and the “influencers” (ffs) make money off them. Kids nowadays want to be “youtubers” when they grow up, complete with American accented Hey guys.... so...

    It’s all pretty awful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Are these people just shameless narcissists or does posting all this stuff inspire both themselves and their followers be more confident and aware of their self image?


    If we’re thinking of the same types of people, I’d imagine for some it’s deep seated narcissism and a desire for recognition. For others they genuinely appear to want to inspire and support people. It’s generally easy to distinguish between the two types fairly quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,201 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    Is it not just about the almighty dollar?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    When they kick off their videos with some reference to the amount of followers they have, you can safely move on knowing you missed nothing.

    "Hey guys, wow, can't believe I hit 3400 followers and got 500 likes after my last video...."

    For the love of god, don't visit TikTok, where Likes are seemingly currency. "I'll post (insert whatever) if this reaches 1000 likes" or "I'm going to keep doing this until 10000 followed. Make me TikTok famous"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    What did you do in the war Granda?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Leave them too it, they're all part the dumbest section of society.

    And the people who encourage them are as bad.

    Back when I was in my teens and 20's these people were non existent I think they call them influencers or something now.

    Men and women , posing on Instagram showing off their supposedly good looks.
    Getting an endorphin hit every time they get a like.

    They think they'll marry a wealthy person and live happily ever after.
    But sadly they have the attention span of a shrimp so they'll get bored easily.

    Anyone who's gullible enough to settle down with one of these craters will be sorry and live out their 30's as a separated parent.
    One in the family home the other struggling in a damp flat driving a crock and stressed to the hilt because they'll probably have around 20 euros a week after alimony and that will cover the basics.

    Dreams shattered.

    You've people in their 40's like this too, addicted to the prospect of the life of a celebrity.

    Probably the highlight of their Saturday night is a few bottles of vino trolling Tinder, Bumble and Plenty of fish for that winner which will end up a loser like themselves.

    You'll get employers who base their potential employees on looks and charm rather than intellect reliability and professionalism.

    Degree courses today are the equivalent of Fas and Post leaving cert courses of yesterday.

    Im in my mid 40's now and I've seen the decline of standards in the education system.

    Narcissism is definitely a mental illness.

    Then you've these people who call themselves empaths...

    They dance with the narcissist too, enabling the narcissist to suck the life out of them.

    The empaths are the likes of SJW'S and liberals another facet of society which are a mix of narcissism and perpetrators of their own sense of victim hood.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 200 ✭✭world class wreckin’ cru


    I can't think of a worse existence than to have to constantly crave attention and 'likes' in order to get by. Imagine not being able to go for a cup of coffee without feeling the need to film it and put some kind of 'fun event' spin on it.

    Sad people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Alimony, SJW, Liberals.




    The 3 words you must slay if you're going to pretend you're not a yank.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    nthclare wrote: »
    The empaths are the likes of SJW'S and liberals another facet of society which are a mix of narcissism and perpetrators of their own sense of victim hood.

    SJWs smash!!!1! Librulz kill!!1!!

    Now to get back to killing gayz and praying to god.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭Tigerbaby


    NthClare... fantastic post.

    in my philosophy;

    Social Media:

    A Global Voice for Village Idiots.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,199 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    nthclare wrote: »
    Leave them too it, they're all part the dumbest section of society.

    The people that follow them are the dumbest section of society. At least the narcissists might make a few quid - so I'd put them just a level above the dumbest.


  • Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I blame the Kardashians.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭TuringBot47


    Are these people just shameless narcissists or does posting all this stuff..

    A bit like people who start threads on boards... why bother?
    Looking to validate yourself?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    A bit like people who start threads on boards...
    Well no really.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I can't think of a worse existence than to have to constantly crave attention and 'likes' in order to get by. Imagine not being able to go for a cup of coffee without feeling the need to film it and put some kind of 'fun event' spin on it.

    Sad people.

    If you haven’t seen the Black Mirror episode “Nosedive” you should seek it out, it would be right up your alley. Also stars the lovely Bryce Dallas Howard.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A bit like people who start threads on boards... why bother?
    Looking to validate yourself?

    It’s a discussion site. People are discussing issues and topics. If nobody starts threads, nothing gets said.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Alimony, SJW, Liberals.




    The 3 words you must slay if you're going to pretend you're not a yank.

    I know I know, I just like adding a sprinkling of irony.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    SJWs smash!!!1! Librulz kill!!1!!

    Now to get back to killing gayz and praying to god.

    Im an agnostic and bisexual, so I think ill leave you make up your own mind.

    But you can worship your abrahamic god and kill whomever, I never knew you were a devout Christian.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    nthclare wrote: »
    I know I know, I just like adding a sprinkling of irony.

    You may have overdone it tbh, the whole post is ironed flat


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭nthclare


    You may have overdone it tbh, the whole post is ironed flat

    Well a foundation is usually built on a flat surface, then one can build on it.

    Steam rolled


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    nthclare wrote: »
    Well a foundation is usually built on a flat surface, then one can build on it.

    Steam rolled

    Nice, I enjoy & commend your lack of fuckgiving, carry on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    nthclare wrote: »
    ...

    Narcissism is definitely a mental illness.

    ...
    Good post, as usual.

    This point stood out for me. If it is a mental illness do we presume its % prevalence in society was always there, whatever that % is?

    Or has the phone-staring generation catapulted that % forward?

    Is it something to do with the different way kids have been reared in the last 20 or so years?

    I'm also in my mid 40s and was talking to a lad I grew up with there lately. We are both without kids and we were discussing other lads our age and how their weekend was dominated with kid taxiing. He laughed at how his own dad back in the 70s/80s didn't give a monkeys what the kids were up to on Saturday morning. Just wanted a lie-in after a week's work. They used to just run out on the road and play. Maybe the kids of today are given an unhealthy "it's all about me" vibe from the off. Of course parental disinterest can be brought to an extreme just as with parental over-interest. Is there a balance to be struck and does that balance play a role in giving a kid a good sense of how to relate to larger society?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭nthclare


    topper75 wrote: »
    Good post, as usual.

    This point stood out for me. If it is a mental illness do we presume its % prevalence in society was always there, whatever that % is?

    Or has the phone-staring generation catapulted that % forward?

    Is it something to do with the different way kids have been reared in the last 20 or so years?

    I'm also in my mid 40s and was talking to a lad I grew up with there lately. We are both without kids and we were discussing other lads our age and how their weekend was dominated with kid taxiing. He laughed at how his own dad back in the 70s/80s didn't give a monkeys what the kids were up to on Saturday morning. Just wanted a lie-in after a week's work. They used to just run out on the road and play. Maybe the kids of today are given an unhealthy "it's all about me" vibe from the off. Of course parental disinterest can be brought to an extreme just as with parental over-interest. Is there a balance to be struck and does that balance play a role in giving a kid a good sense of how to relate to larger society?

    Well I was talking to an old guy who used to lecture sociology and philosophy and he's watched all the different generations from the late 60's upwards.

    Let's just say materially we're probably doing well but he thinks a lot of people are basically zombies and have no mind of their own.

    The people who are happier are probably single men and women in their 40's plus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    The irony of people who spend their days on boards “setting the world to rights” giving out about social media.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Meh, humans are social animals who have always felt the need for belonging and status and meaning within the tribe. Social media has simply exaggerated it, some would say weaponised it, because ever more shock factor and shiny surface gets the attention in a stimulus heavy environment. Add in a generational difference with a large chunk of "kids in my day, harrumph" and here we are.

    EG:
    nthclare wrote: »
    Well I was talking to an old guy who used to lecture sociology and philosophy and he's watched all the different generations from the late 60's upwards.

    Let's just say materially we're probably doing well but he thinks a lot of people are basically zombies and have no mind of their own.

    The people who are happier are probably single men and women in their 40's plus
    If you asked the same "old guy" sociologist in the 80's 70's 60's 50's you would hear the same answers. Hell, go way back and you'll hear the same answers.

    Quote from the 18th century:

    The free access which many young people have to romances, novels, and plays has poisoned the mind and corrupted the morals of many a promising youth; and prevented others from improving their minds in useful knowledge. Parents take care to feed their children with wholesome diet; and yet how unconcerned about the provision for the mind, whether they are furnished with salutary food, or with trash, chaff, or poison?

    So back then it was trashy mills and boon that was leading the youth into narcissism. At one point or another it was the theatre, films, books, whatever you're having yourself(radio for some reason largely avoided this). It's always the same story. The times are getting too luxurious and self absorbed and the youth are in danger and the old hate it.

    So the old don't get the new. In other news water is wet. Indeed I would contend if a time comes when the old do get the new, then nothing new is created. A far more dangerous position.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    Self worth comes from within oneself you can only give yourself that. Not the likes, reactions or comments you get on your poor excuse of a "good time".

    Doing everyday things is not a big event. Imagine going out all the time and thinking how can I make this a currency for my own self worth. Just be in the moment, engaged and happy in that moment.

    Imagine watching a beautiful sunset with a sheperds sky, taking it all in, at peace only to have a stupid thought like "I have to get this on social media and show everyone how deadly it is". No you don't. That's your sunset and enjoy it for yourself. I just believe moments are being commodified and the core value is being lost of the moment itself with things like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭markjbloggs


    Tigerbaby wrote: »

    Social Media:

    A Global Voice for Village Idiots.

    Conclusive evidence for this (as if it was needed) being the twittering narcissist idiot in the White House.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,199 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    KiKi III wrote: »
    The irony of people who spend their days on boards “setting the world to rights” giving out about social media.

    Not really seeing the irony myself.
    its talking about social media narcissists anonymously on a discussion forum


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    chrissb8 wrote: »
    Self worth comes from within oneself you can only give yourself that.
    I always considered that largely a nonsense peddled by low brow self help gurus on Oprah's couch. And for all that self help drivel that's been peddled for decades along with all the access to therapies, people are getting measurably less happy and content over time. If the treatments aren't working, it suggests the treatments aren't useful and/or the diagnosis is arseways.

    Humans are a social animal and belonging and sharing within the group is a huge part of self worth. You want to drive someone to madness? Socially isolate them. If "self worth comes from within oneself" then solitary confinement wouldn't be much of a punishment.
    Imagine watching a beautiful sunset with a sheperds sky, taking it all in, at peace only to have a stupid thought like "I have to get this on social media and show everyone how deadly it is". No you don't. That's your sunset and enjoy it for yourself. I just believe moments are being commodified and the core value is being lost of the moment itself with things like that.
    Sure, some will want to use such a moment as social currency, some will want to savour it subjectively, while others - and quite naturally - will feel the need to share that moment with others. Y'know, normal human sociability.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    YouTube is quickly following in the same footsteps as Instagram if not as blighted yet.


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