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Tell me how wrote: ». . . .
Feel free to counter with appropriate evidence and links.
Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.
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DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »Look , nevermind how misguided her views are, some of the comments about her ohline are completely out of line.
This is a person suffering with a severve form of Asbergers. She is not aware that she comes across as being intensely creepy and odd at times.
These are the symtoms of her condition and they should not be so callously scoffed at.
Even worse her condition and conditioning are being cynically exploited by a group of people surrounding her for their own benefit whether that be financial or lust for power. Don't overlook either that for their entire lives just like Greta our own children have faced the incessant propaganda from people pushing catastrophic anthropogenic global warming. This been actively promoted in the public school system since the 1990s and depending on family circumstances may cause or exacerbate anguish and depression among them culminating in catastrophic ends like suicide for those on the margins. Parents may even experience factitious disorder by which someone deceives others by appearing sick, by purposely getting sick or by self-injury externalising itself as concern about "the climate" which seems to be what's happened with both Greta and her sister due to their family circumstances. For Greta and her family climate seems to have become a proxy fight against their personal problems as least that is what Ulrike Stockmann concludes based on reading Gretas mothers book.
Those of us who grew up in the 1970s/80s will remember the Campaign for Nuclear (CND) disarmament which certainly did cause anguish and a sense of foreboding among the population. It got much too expensive to maintain the nuclear weapons arsenals and they were cut back plus the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics collapsed. In recent decades both the United States, Russia and countries in South East Asia have all gotten interested in missile development through their "space exploration programs" which NASA was the original cover for the US development of ICBMs and still is today with hypersonic missiles and the US has even launched space force (seriously).
In an rather strange development the UN has revived the old two minutes to midnight doomsday clock scare featuring none other than Mary Robinson who has been milking the climate change gravy train for some time.
Comparing “climate change” to the intensity of all the other threats, it seems completely out of place and of far less magnitude and urgency. Despite 73 years of predicting doomsday proximity, it has never materialized.
You need to ask yourself: Do you feel more threatened by nuclear armageddon, or the possibility of the climate changing? And will we be introducing duck and cover to classrooms when the temperature rises or rain falls?
As if this is not sinister enough, remember extinction rebellion, well here is what some of their members are thinking right now.In this pamphlet, we concern ourselves principally with the UK, but a majority world-facing narrative is an equally important and urgent requirement. The new story will not be one about ‘the environment’ or ‘green’ issues. It will be human-centric and rooted in the indelible truth that we are living in a world that has evolved as if dangerous climate change did not exist. Bringing this realisation to life is our story untold. It says we don’t all go from now to extinction sometime
after 2080 with nothing else in between. We lose everything that matters to us on the way: our public services, our security, our community, our homes, our food, our water. And ultimately the people we love. It is a story of unstoppable loss unless we act now. It is a story that starts with eliciting vulnerability.
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By eliciting vulnerability they are engaging in cult behaviour by stripping their members of their identity and replacing it with a new one and that is how they intend to proceed and your children are their target.Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.
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Tell me how wrote: »This guy
As a historian he is well placed to document the history of the climate change movement. I am sure you will enjoy this presentation about fraud and statistical chicanery among climate scientists uncovered in 2009.
Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.
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Notice as well, the people who insist they're not 'denialists', always support propaganda tied to the Koch's - among the most notorious propagandists on the planet - and the ones who are the most well documented at manufacturing and publishing false information about climate change.Never a word of disagreement from these posters, at use of those propaganda sources - but when you point out the use of those propaganda sources, they have loads to say in disagreement at that being pointed out.Same posters that unconvincingly claim they support 'solutions' to eliminating climate changing emissions, to try and shake off the Denialist label - but won't state whether they support solutions eliminating emissions in a timely manner - not even giving a timeframe e.g. eliminating emissions within decades? centuries? millenia?
Even more koch eh?
Lol. What " in a timely manner" like greta who is telling us to 'forget about net zero'? The same who says she wants 'real zero' and she wants it now.
Is that timely enough for you or is it that you dont actually agree with her? Does that make you a "Denialist" then?0 -
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Here is what real 0 looks like. Power for the privileged.
This will become a very serious problem mid decade if low-density random unreliable energy policies are not halted. Currently we in Ireland are dependent on natural gas and there are plans to use French nuclear energy via an interconnect if it gets built, the question is though will France have the capacity? That may not be obvious considering what in happening in Germany.
The looming German capacity crunchThe German policy narrative is for renewables growth to offset the closure of nuclear, coal & lignite capacity…. but the numbers tell a different story.
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Historically, periods of low renewables have been met with an increased dispatch of gas and coal generation. As coal and nuclear generation falls away, Germany will need to rely increasingly on existing gas, new flexible capacity and imports to balance the system.
Germany, however, is not going through an energy transition alone. France is closing its coal fleet by 2022, Belgium is phasing out its nuclear fleet by 2025 and Italy & the Netherlands are closing coal fleets by 2030.
Conventional wisdom states that increased interconnection between countries will help balance markets in periods of low or high wind, but is that the case? An analysis of wind load-factors by country shows how interconnection might not be the panacea commonly assumed.
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Undoubtedly by mid decade Demand Side Response (DSR) is going to be the reality in our lives.Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.
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Tell me how wrote: »Gozunda, why do you hate Greta?
Brilliant
So you think that those who simply point out the obvious inconsistencies of an argument - 'hate' greta? As you said "Hilarious" ...
But let me ask Tell me how - why do you hero worship greta - is all that not a bit odd no?0
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