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2020 6 Nations - Ireland vs Scotland match thread

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  • #602
    Neil3030
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Error drives learning so I'm reassured by a mixed performance; show's we are changing the gameplan.

    Credit to Scotland; probably could have won that on another day.


  • #603
    pickarooney
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    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    A 7 point win is not “by the skin of our teeth”

    Strange comment....I would have always though1-2 point would be skin of teeth

    Hogg dropping the ball over the line is "by the skin of our teeth"


  • #604
    sydthebeat
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    reg114 wrote: »
    Irony is Kearney played over 100 games in that position and his greatest failing was his own inability to pass.

    One man's "greatest failing was his inability to pass" is another man's "greatest asset was his ability to retain possession and recycle"


  • #605
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,441 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Utopia Parkway wrote: »
    I disagree.
    You're wrong though.


  • #606
    Shefwedfan
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    Utopia Parkway wrote: »
    Stander was the only one who stood out.

    You should watch the game again so


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  • #607
    Burkie1203
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    Utopia Parkway wrote: »
    Stander was the only one who stood out.

    Aki, VDF Ryan were excellent too
    Sexton was good. Back three has a bit going for them and Henderson robbed a few Lineouts

    Thought Toner made some great tackles in the last 5 minutes.

    Doris Ringrose Kilcoyne (& furlong?) All off injured so that makes next week's team selection interesting. I think Cooney has to start.

    We have evolved a bit. We were trying to get a bit wider but it will take time. We also looked for offloads a good bit more. Some positive signs


  • #608
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Utopia Parkway wrote: »
    Stander was the only one who stood out.

    Are you serious?

    VDF won two and a half turnovers and latched on to Stander for his first turnover.

    You clearly weren’t watching the same game as anyone else.

    The back row as a unit were excellent


  • #609
    Shefwedfan
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    reg114 wrote: »
    Irony is Kearney played over 100 games in that position and his greatest failing was his own inability to pass.

    Kearney never got to 100 caps, he is at 95

    His greatest failing, well that is a section of fans never liked him.....nothing to do with Rob

    Seems the same set of fans have a new player in their sights!!!! It’s a pity


  • #610
    mfceiling
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    KaneToad wrote: »
    Our wings were mediocre today. Dave Kearney would improve things on that front.

    You reckon?


  • #611
    Utopia Parkway
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,010 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Are you serious?

    VDF won two and a half turnovers and latched on to Stander for his first turnover.

    You clearly weren’t watching the same game as anyone else.

    The back row as a unit were excellent

    I just wasn't blind to the bad stuff like some.


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  • #612
    Faugheen
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    troyzer wrote: »
    It's not the point.

    He's going to make it very easy to defend him if he doesn't keep defenders guessing.

    See Stander, CJ.

    But what would passing have actually done?

    If you’re playing close to a pod of forwards the one thing you don’t do is throw the ball away from them unless that player is in space.

    There was no occasion where Larmour passing the ball would have changed it. Don’t pass the ball for the sake of passing it.


  • #613
    Faugheen
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    Utopia Parkway wrote: »
    I just wasn't blind to the bad stuff like some.

    What’s the bad stuff about VDF, then?


  • #614
    JPCN1
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    almostover wrote: »
    Murray was better than Cooney today.....

    But good to see genuine competition for the jersey

    Don't think he was. He was ponderous and certainly didn't nail down the jersey today for me.


  • #615
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,441 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Utopia Parkway wrote: »
    I just wasn't blind to the bad stuff like some.
    Just blind to everything not involving Stander it seems.


  • #616
    Neil3030
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Utopia Parkway wrote: »
    I just wasn't blind to the bad stuff like some.

    The bad things Vdf did? Could you elaborate on that?


  • #617
    Utopia Parkway
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,010 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Just blind to everything not involving Stander it seems.

    He played very well in fairness to him given the amount of stick he's come in for lately.


  • #618
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,441 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Utopia Parkway wrote: »
    He played very well in fairness to him given the amount of stick he's come in for lately.
    Yes. You could even make a strong case for him to keep the 6 jersey.


  • #619
    Always Tired
    Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Always Tired


    pickarooney wrote: »
    Hogg dropping the ball over the line is "by the skin of our teeth"

    Plus the other 3 tries Scotland should have gotten. Ireland could have easily lost.


  • #620
    prawnsambo
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    Ringrose hand injury.


  • #621
    molloyjh
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    I'm a bit worried that some of the same lack of intensity and aggression seemed to be evident last season existed out there again today. Certainly in patches. Thought VDF, Stander, Sexton, Conway and Larmour went well. Injuries are an absolute kicker though and wouldnt have helped towards the end. I still think the POM, VDF, Stander back row simply doesnt work. But is Deegan up for next week? Doris should be back for week 3 but cant see him available next week.

    Also worried about Ringrose. No update on him deliberately would make you nervous. A hand injury could be nothing, could be serious.

    Team for next week for me:

    Healy Herring Porter
    Toner Ryan
    Stander Deegan VDF

    Cooney Sexton
    Henshaw Aki
    Stockdale Larmour Conway

    Kelleher, McGrath, Furlong, Henderson, POM, Murray, Byrne, Addison


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  • #622
    almostover
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    Neil3030 wrote: »
    The bad things Vdf did? Could you elaborate on that?

    Why are people arguing about this? The backrow was very good today, all three of them. VdF was a close second for MOM. This provincial bickering is tiresome.


  • #623
    P.Walnuts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,403 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    Faugheen wrote: »
    What’s the bad stuff about VDF, then?

    Mate I like VDF, but are you related to him or something?

    Every time he's mentioned you come charging in


  • #624
    lawred2
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    Mattie Williams has some carbon footprint


  • #625
    awec
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    Cooney for me next week.


  • #626
    Perla Bitter Snake
    Posts: 0 ✭ Perla Bitter Snake


    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    CJ Stander has been absolutely phenomenal.

    Anyone who says anything else is an eejit of the highest order.

    Yep. I've certainly been one of his doubters but he was top class today.


  • #627
    lawred2
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    Always Tired wrote: »
    Plus the other 3 tries Scotland should have gotten. Ireland could have easily lost.

    Scotland will be kicking themselves


  • #628
    [Deleted User]
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    ROG and Horgan saying we still look like Joe is the coach, our exiting from our 22 suggests they are wrong.

    There were obvious differences today, they just didn't work and we failed to comprehensively break down Scotland as a result.


  • #629
    almostover
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    I'm a bit worried that some of the same lack of intensity and aggression seemed to be evident last season existed out there again today. Certainly in patches. Thought VDF, Stander, Sexton, Conway and Larmour went well. Injuries are an absolute kicker though and wouldnt have helped towards the end. I still think the POM, VDF, Stander back row simply doesnt work. But is Deegan up for next week? Doris should be back for week 3 but cant see him available next week.

    Also worried about Ringrose. No update on him deliberately would make you nervous. A hand injury could be nothing, could be serious.

    Team for next week for me:

    Healy Herring Porter
    Toner Ryan
    Stander Deegan VDF

    Cooney Sexton
    Henshaw Aki
    Stockdale Larmour Conway

    Kelleher, McGrath, Furlong, Henderson, POM, Murray, Byrne, Addison

    Why don't you think the POM, VdF & Stander backrow doesn't work? They played really well as a unit today. It's well balanced. Granted I'd like to see Doris go at 8 again next week if not ruled out with POM on the bench. Deegan is a bit off this level currently IMO, but he will get there. I'd rate JOD ahead of Deegan.


  • #630
    AbusesToilets
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    almostover wrote: »
    Why don't you think the POM, VdF & Stander backrow doesn't work? They played really well as a unit today. It's well balanced. Granted I'd like to see Doris go at 8 again next week if not ruled out with POM on the bench. Deegan is a bit off this level currently IMO, but he will get there. I'd rate JOD ahead of Deegan.

    Probably the evidence of the last 2yrs? Folks are wildly overinflating a decent performance against a terrible Scottish team.


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  • #631
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,441 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    AbusesToilets wrote: »
    Probably the evidence of the last 2yrs? Folks are wildly overinflating a decent performance against a terrible Scottish team.
    That Scotland team today weren't 'terrible'.


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