General Election TV debates

road_high wrote: »

Journal.ie is a SF mouthpiece- in no way is a poll there objectively credible or anything other online platform really as SF supporters (paid and otherwise) are well known to spend their lives trolling them. No surprise SF had the most cheerleaders in the audience tonight either.
Tonight proves that no one need have any fear from Mary Lou in three ways as she’s hopelessly devoid of detail when anything is delved into further. In fact the public need to see more of her to expose the bluster more widely

I thought RBB had the most cheerleaders. I'd have thought Doherty would be better leading Sinn Fein myself. The Journal aside though, it really does appear that the general consensus is that she came out on top tonight.

deisedevil wrote: »

Not at all. Mondeos are gone long long ago. They've been using Hyundais with a long time.

When they found the remnants of that Drogheda teenager the 2 Garda vehicles parked at the scene were an 07 Mondeo and an 08 Iveco van.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

This argument is nonsense.

Yes we don't live in some failed state with corrupt militia running it like a dictatorship and living in our own filth with running water or indoor plumbing considered to be a luxury.

But by the standards of a modern first world Western society (which is where we ACTUALLY live!), things could be a LOT better!

People giving out about the state of our housing crisis aren't comparing Ireland to other first world countries - which actually do have similar housing issues to our own.

Type "Housing Crisis 'EUROPEANCITY' " into google and you'll find there's major issues all across Europe. This isn't just an Irish issue that our politicans are failing to solve. Every politican in Europe must be terrible if none of them have managed to find a solution yet.
Of course everyone would like for working people to be able to afford a home, but the answers of how to manage that aren't as easy as some would like you to believe.





Revealed: The state of Sweden's housing shortage - The Local
May 14, 2019 - More than 80 percent of Sweden's municipalities face a shortage of housing, according to a new report. But do the figures exaggerate the ...

Costly city homes, crumbling country houses – Finland's top 5 ...
Oct 9, 2018 - There is a shortage of affordable housing, especially in the Helsinki region, which is aggravating the labour shortage in the area, particularly in ...

Housing shortage revives stalled schemes in Spain's cities ...
Dec 9, 2019 - Joaquín Gómez stands on a hill overlooking scrubland on the edge of Madrid and points at the expanse below. Areas have been marked out ...

850 new affordable homes will have little impact on Ljubljana’s residential market – Translation of an article that appeared in Finance, Slovenia’s daily financial newspaper, on Tuesday 14th March 2017
Slovenia, together with Italy and Greece, has the highest percentage of youth living at home of all OECD countries – with more than 70 percent of 15 to 29 year-olds cohabiting with their parents.

German cities struggle to curb housing shortage | Germany ...
Jul 22, 2019 - For years Germany's real estate market has been plagued by a housing ... Munich, Frankfurt and Berlin also build fewer apartments than ...

The state of Scotland's housing market in four charts - BBC.com
Jan 22, 2019 - Soaring private rents, long waiting lists for social housing and ... So, looking to find something before they sell [creates a] shortage of supply." ... Over the same period, Glasgow saw its average rents jump from £567 to £749.

Housing crisis is now an emergency, says real estate agents ...
DutchNews.nl-9 Jan 2020
The housing crisis in the Netherlands has turned into a housing emergency, the head of the Dutch real estate agents' association said on ...

www.theguardian.com › world › jan › new-zealand-housing-crisis-jus...
New Zealand housing crisis: just 47 'affordable' homes built in ...
Jan 28, 2019 - Jacinda Ardern's ...

www.huffingtonpost.ca › entry › rental-housing-shortage-canada_ca_...
Canada's Rental Housing Shortage Will Get 'Deeper', Real ...
Dec 15, 2019 - Barely more than half of millennials believe they will ever own a home. But there's no rental housing for them, either.

Sinn Fein vote in local elections was a third less than the polls predicted, leading them to lose almost half their local election seats.

RandomViewer wrote: »

They've pulled the stickers off the high mileage Hyundai estates and using them as replacements for the Mondeos and Focus
. They had a trick a few years ago where the new cars would be at a station for 5000kms and then passed to another area to make it look that they had more new vehicles than they actually had.

Unreal. They really are trying to carry out their jobs with a hand tied behind their back all the time.

C__MC wrote: »

SinnFein have a solid go on this campaign to be fair
Intrigued to see if they can make huge inroads
Or will the concept of the IRA hurt them?

Anyone supporting SF can't be right in the head. A bunch of hypocritical populists who condoned the slaughter of Irish people and have never apologised for that stance or acknowledged that it was morally indefensible. Pure political poison.

Interesting to read the take of all of you on the debate.
What I find utterly objectionable is a bunch of journos/"experts" coming on tv immediately afterwards to tell us who won. It is for you to decide who won. But the television celebrities who are light years up their own anuses think you are too stupid to make up your own minds and need their guidance.
It reminds me of going to mass long ago. A piece of the gospel was read, and was followed by a sermon in which the priest might as well have said: " It is appreciated that you thick slobs haven't a clue what that piece of the gospel was all about, so I'm going to explain it to you, and tell you what you are supposed to think."
I've said it before and I say it again: these media gob****es regard themselves as the new bishops. At least the old ones recognised a higher authority.

RandomViewer wrote: »

All the parties are giving away Unicorns ,we'll be up to our necks in unicorn crap by Paddys day.

The code of that Insane bull**** is 420,000,000 a year, every year , an it will increase massively over time. Robbing from the working poor to pay for it , at sixty five , you’ve had your life to provide and likely have a home sorted !

This is it wrote: »

It'll be closer to 2bn

Worth remembering that this NCH was being touted almost 30 years ago -when FF finally got around to it Bertie Ahern pushed to have it on the Mater site !!
MM fully supported the Ahern idea which was crazy and rightly rejected at the planning stage.
Google ' National Children's Hospital timeline'
and scroll down to the second photo where you will see MM poring intently over the model.
Sorry , but he has no credibility on this issue at all.

easypazz wrote: »

FF must be most worried, they are on course to have most seats but only just.

Choice then will be coalition with fg or coalition with sinn fein and others.

Both of which they are ruling out.

You obviously misunderstand Michael Martin, this is super personal for him.