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Saying 'I Love you'...

  • 27-01-2020 12:32PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Porklife


    A friend of mine has been seeing a girl he's really fallen for over the past few months. Last night he cooked her dinner, lit candles and set the scene for romance. After a few glasses of wine he decided to take the plunge and tell her he loves her. He messaged me this morning asking me what I make of her response.

    Him:I know it's early days but... I love you sugar tits*

    Her: ... long pause....takes a swig of wine... I love that you love me - I mean, who doesn't want to be loved..

    Him: ..eh yeah, I guess... well, I'm really tired & need to rearrange my sock drawer so maybe you should leave?

    *he may not have called her sugar tits*

    I found her response kinda funny this morning. Maybe she was caught off guard but it seems a tad arrogant. I guess if you're not feeling it then there's no easy way to respond but that must have stung to hear.

    My stance is that I won't ever say it first, maybe not the most mature attitude but I just can't imagine saying it and getting the brush off.

    An ex boyfriend of mine said it to me in the car as we headed for a weekend away. I wasn't expecting it and just said ' I hope to love you soon too'.
    Eekkkk that did not go down well! Que one very awkward weekend together!

    So have you guys ever said it and been knocked back/ What is the worst response you've received having said it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    I think if you are a man you wait for the woman to say it first after a reasonably healthy period of time.

    In my experience anyways. Men develop feelings a lot quicker than most women.

    Until then just hang out and have fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Jesus, those 2 responses have me cringing, P. Awful. No point saying it back if you don't mean it though.

    Don't think I've had the experience myself thankfully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Porklife


    I think if you are a man you wait for the woman to say it first after a reasonably healthy period of time.

    In my experience anyways. Men develop feelings a lot quicker than most women.

    Until then just hang out and have fun.

    Really? that's interesting. I would have thought women in general are more emotional and would likely fall sooner/harder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Porklife


    Bobblehats wrote: »
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    AAAHHHHHHHHHHH Sock puppets!!!!!!!!!!


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Porklife wrote: »
    Really? that's interesting. I would have thought women in general are more emotional and would likely fall sooner/harder.
    Not been my general experience P. Or if they do, they seem more likely to play it close to their chests. Depends on the person of course, but generally I would say that men are more likely to go all in, when or if they feel it.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    If I did it utter it I wouldn’t be the first. But it’d be a first?

    Love is a game, in which tentative steps must be taken saying I love you can be a greater commitment than marriage itself as they will they know they’ve got you. But do you have them? Having said that love is a feeling; not a word if you mean it at all...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    I think Extreme said it best...

    "Saying I love you
    Is not the words I want to hear from you
    It's not that I want you
    Not to say, but if you only knew
    How easy it would be to show me how you feel
    More than words is all you have to do to make it real
    Then you wouldn't have to say that you love me
    'Cause I'd already know"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    Porklife wrote: »
    Really? that's interesting. I would have thought women in general are more emotional and would likely fall sooner/harder.

    The two examples you gave is reflective of this.

    Both yourself and your friend simply weren't ready to say it. Which is perfectly fine. It takes time.

    If you are a man in this situation you just simply wait to hear it first. That way it's a win win situation and you don't inadvertently makes things awkward between you.


  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Eason Miniature Catfish


    When you say "seeing" are they still in the dating phase or are they boyfriend and girlfriend?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,513 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    They are just nonsense words imo. Behaviour and actions over time are what is important.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    They are just nonsense words imo. Behaviour and actions over time are what is important.

    Yes, but at the early stages of a potential relationship they are pretty important words to hear from both sides.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Show her you love her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭Cina


    I think if you are a man you wait for the woman to say it first after a reasonably healthy period of time.

    In my experience anyways. Men develop feelings a lot quicker than most women.

    Until then just hang out and have fun.

    A situation where a woman in Ireland is expected to make the first move?

    Ha, good one!


  • Posts: 21,740 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I spent three and a half years with someone who never once said it. It was difficult for me to not hear it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,032 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I think men fall in and out of love a lot quicker. Women I have found take longer to invest for the want of a better word. Does this go back to evolution and baby making requirements?

    As to saying it first it's a lot like buying someone a drink in a bar, don't expect one back and you won't be disappointed.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,032 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I spent three and a half years with someone who never once said it. It was difficult for me to not hear it.

    Slightly different however I've found myself to be saying "I love you to" as in my wife always says it first. I consciously say it randomly now so as not to always be coming in second.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Porklife


    When you say "seeing" are they still in the dating phase or are they boyfriend and girlfriend?

    They are together about 5 months now and are a couple, have met each others friends etc. I wonder if she'll say it back soon or if they'll break up.

    In my case, after my boyfriend said it and I didn't reciprocate, he asked me later on did I think I would ever love him. My answer was no. I mulled it over and I just knew that he ultimately wasn't the guy for me so we broke up. He was upset because in his mind, he told me he loved me and I ended it a few days later but from my perspective, I was doing him a favour by not wasting his time and I was showing integrity by being true to myself.
    It's hard though, I really liked that guy and would happily have continued seeing him but I guess the end goal is always to fall in love, well not always but after a certain length of time and after a certain age you don't really wanna be just d*cking around anymore!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Those responses are hard to hear but if youre taking the leap of saying it you have to be mature enough to not expect them to feel the same way just because you do

    Theres no easy way to reply if its not reciprocated but what would be a lot more cruel would be to say you love them back even if you dont


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    As long as you feel love that is perfectly adequate - as long as you; feel love just to clarify.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    Cina wrote: »
    A situation where a woman in Ireland is expected to make the first move?

    Ha, good one!

    It's not a move it's a word.

    Not all Irish women or women in general are the same either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,032 ✭✭✭Feisar


    It's not a move it's a word.

    Not all Irish women or women in general are the same either.

    Doesn't matter, I just through my wife out and am heading for the trenches. Battle lines drawn.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭nkl12xtw5goz70


    They are just nonsense words imo. Behaviour and actions over time are what is important.

    Never saying "I love you" is a sure sign of a commitment-phobe, who is also likely to withhold any other meaningful indicators of commitment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,545 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Her: "I love you"

    Me: "I like you too"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    You could just start the sentence and see how it goes.

    "I love..."
    *Gauge look on her face*
    "....lamp."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Porklife


    It's a powerful word too and once it's said, you can't unsay it. It shifts the power dynamic in the relationship too, unless of course the other person says it back then sweet, you're on track. It definitely made me reassess my feelings for my ex and seriously consider how I actually felt about him. As it happened, I knew I liked him but the book closed there.
    I also feel it puts a bit more pressure on the couple once it's been said. Plus, there's nowhere else to really go from there. It's the pinnacle of feelings so you either plateau in love or it goes downhill! Maybe i'm just cynical though or have barriers up due to past relationship experiences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,664 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Men can be trigger happy with the "I love you", I was once told after 6 weeks. The earlier you hear it the more fickle they can be too, not all the time of course.

    Alas, there's no gracious response to it, what can you say?

    "Thanks"? :D


  • Posts: 21,740 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Feisar wrote: »
    Slightly different however I've found myself to be saying "I love you to" as in my wife always says it first. I consciously say it randomly now so as not to always be coming in second.

    Completely different :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    I think about 3 possibly 4 months is a grand enough time to be hearing "I love you".

    If I were hearing it after a month I'd be slightly concerned.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Alas, there's no gracious response to it, what can you say?

    "Thanks"? :D

    I love you more.


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