* Motors chat - round 12 *

MetzgerMeister · 23-01-2020 10:21AM

Leonard Hofstadter wrote: »

One good motoring policy if FF were to get in (I feel dirty for saying that because I never have and I never will vote for them, but credit where it's due):

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/motors/ff-will-not-progress-new-speeding-bill-if-in-government-after-election-1.4145225

Lord Ross has got to be the most useless Minister of Transport ever, and that's saying something!

It says that they won't be using it as a starting point for any changes to the regime. I wouldn't be surprised if they came up with their own ideas for a new regime which wouldn't be too dissimilar to Ross's.

I never believe a word they say until something they have promised is followed through on...which is rare!

AndyBoBandy · 23-01-2020 11:32AM

Hi Folks,

Can someone remind me who are the insurance crowd up north that insure 'classics'?

About to get a Tesla, and would like to keep the old 3 series as a 2nd 'classic' car (with limited mileage etc...)

How far back will they consider a BMW a classic?

Pops_20 · 23-01-2020 11:33AM

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Hi Folks,

Can someone remind me who are the insurance crowd up north that insure 'classics'?

About to get a Tesla, and would like to keep the old 3 series as a 2nd 'classic' car (with limited mileage etc...)

How far back will they consider a BMW a classic?

Autoline up north insure classics. The car has to be 20 years or older, but they may consider 15 years and older on a case by case basis.

AndyBoBandy · 23-01-2020 11:41AM

Pops_20 wrote: »

Autoline up north insure classics. The car has to be 20 years or older, but they may consider 15 years and older on a case by case basis.

Ah, that might be that plan out the window then, car is September 2006 so won't be 15 until Sept 2021

carsfan2 · 23-01-2020 11:44AM

Don’t know if this is correct but I think not.
I was told that the basis of assessment of motor tax for private car CO2 is changing to the new wltp levels in April and consequently car tax will increase for most as values are higher.
I can’t see this online anywhere.
Anyone know?

colm_mcm · 23-01-2020 11:47AM

Not retrospectively

blade1 · 23-01-2020 12:17PM

My IS300 is in for a service today and was told there's a recall on them as well.
Apparently rear wheel arches may or may not have been sealed properly.
Anyone else have this?

Leonard Hofstadter · 23-01-2020 12:45PM

carsfan2 wrote: »

Don’t know if this is correct but I think not.
I was told that the basis of assessment of motor tax for private car CO2 is changing to the new wltp levels in April and consequently car tax will increase for most as values are higher.
I can’t see this online anywhere.
Anyone know?

It will be for new cars. The CO2 has already 'increased' on many cars when they brought in Phase 1 of the tests (all new cars are already tested under WLTP but then the CO2 ratings converted back to NEDC, so we've got a hybrid WLTP/NEDC system at present). When Phase 2 comes in the test and the results will be the WLTP values. Existing cars will be rated as they currently are. Big changes ahead once we get to full WLTP, Mercedes are reportedly restricting the sales of 75% of their AMG range for example, and the VW Group will be discontinuing the 2.0 TSI engine in their various mid size SUVs because the CO2 is too high.

cadaliac · 23-01-2020 12:59PM

eljono wrote: »

Balls, more chance of getting done for being a couple of kms over the limit by GoSafe than by the Guards I reckon. At least with the Guards there's often common sense and discretion used.

I have heard from several people that the GoSafe speeding tickets are sent to the Guards and that there is a huge proportion of tickets that are not processed, due to lack of manpower in the guards.
I have 1st hand experience of this (getting flashed at night) and nothing in the post thereafter. This was a few years ago mind you so I'm not sure if the GoSafe vans were in operation at the time or not.
I also was caught red handed in the North just over 1 year ago and nothing in the post either. I wasn't expecting one from them though...

joujoujou · 23-01-2020 03:27PM

Gosafes flash regardless of speed, easy to notice watching dashcam footage.

James Bond Junior · 23-01-2020 04:57PM

Pops_20 wrote: »

Autoline up north insure classics. The car has to be 20 years or older, but they may consider 15 years and older on a case by case basis.

I've a feeling Autoline aren't taking new business. I called last May to renew and they thought I wanted a new policy and refused before even hearing me out. A renewal wasn't an issue after I clarified but new policies were a no go.

Tazzimus · 23-01-2020 05:03PM

Probably getting inundated with young lads looking to insure Civics etc.
Hopefully they will still offer new policies, I finally found a decent enough donor to re-shell my DC2 and it'd be nice to be able to insure it once I have it back running again.

James Bond Junior · 23-01-2020 06:05PM

Tazzimus wrote: »

Probably getting inundated with young lads looking to insure Civics etc.
Hopefully they will still offer new policies, I finally found a decent enough donor to re-shell my DC2 and it'd be nice to be able to insure it once I have it back running again.

Jap stuff is notoriously hard to insure even with Autoline. I reckon the fact I have an E36 which is popular with drift heads was part of the reason I was denied initially, she just didn't realise I had an existing policy.

selectamatic · 23-01-2020 06:17PM

Surely other companies are taking on e36's though considering they're all over 20 now.

Shur First Ireland were insuring e46's 2 or 3 years ago.

James Bond Junior · 23-01-2020 06:49PM

selectamatic wrote: »

Surely other companies are taking on e36's though considering they're all over 20 now.

Shur First Ireland were insuring e46's 2 or 3 years ago.

Yup, and they took me on in 2017 with no issue. 2019 they weren't. I got quotes with Campions and someone else but Autoline were way cheaper and allowed to switch to an offroad policy as I only drive it 3 months a year.

Tazzimus · 23-01-2020 07:10PM

James Bond Junior wrote: »

Jap stuff is notoriously hard to insure even with Autoline. I reckon the fact I have an E36 which is popular with drift heads was part of the reason I was denied initially, she just didn't realise I had an existing policy.

Thankfully the shell it's going into is a UK model, so that might work in my favour, hopefully.

padyjoe · 23-01-2020 10:16PM

My brain stopped for a few moments when I saw this face to face. I thought she should be one of them funny Micras. Nope, it's the Toyota Will Cypha (allegedly some Yaris derivative.)

tossy · 24-01-2020 08:50AM

padyjoe wrote: »

Will Cypha

Sounds like a rapper.

Pops_20 · 24-01-2020 10:17AM

James Bond Junior wrote: »

I've a feeling Autoline aren't taking new business. I called last May to renew and they thought I wanted a new policy and refused before even hearing me out. A renewal wasn't an issue after I clarified but new policies were a no go.

They are still taking on new business, but you now have to be 30 years old to insure almost any Jap car.

Existing policies aren't an issue if you are under 30, as long as you don't let it lapse and keep renewing it every year.

James Bond Junior · 24-01-2020 10:21AM

Pops_20 wrote: »

They are still taking on new business, but you now have to be 30 years old to insure almost any Jap car.

Existing policies aren't an issue if you are under 30, as long as you don't let it lapse and keep renewing it every year.

I see. I took out my policy at 29 and 11/12ths! The car was a 30th birthday present to myself. Looking forward to my 40th to keep the theme going!

selectamatic · 24-01-2020 10:30AM

Pops_20 wrote: »

They are still taking on new business, but you now have to be 30 years old to insure almost any Jap car.

Existing policies aren't an issue if you are under 30, as long as you don't let it lapse and keep renewing it every year.

Is that any jap import or any Japanese marque regardless of where it was first reg'd?

Its been 30 for jap imports for a while now.

Pops_20 · 24-01-2020 12:15PM

selectamatic wrote: »

Is that any jap import or any Japanese marque regardless of where it was first reg'd?

Its been 30 for jap imports for a while now.

I believe it's only the usual jap imports - Silvias, Skylines, WRX, Civics, Integras etc. That said I haven't tried to insure a non-performance Japanese import or just an original Irish registered Jap car so I don't know.

They seems to change the rules every so often and I don't know what the reason is.

2017 - had to be 30 to get classic insurance on my 180sx
2018/2019 - few people I know under 30 got classic policies on Skylines, 180sx, MX-5 etc.
Late 2019 - They've put it back to 30 years old.

marcos_94 · 24-01-2020 02:05PM

Tempted by a couple of 2000 Audi tts for sale at the moment. Theyre both 1.8t Quattros. Anyone know much about them reliability wise? Any common issues to be aware of when checking them out? Thanks

tossy · 24-01-2020 02:40PM

marcos_94 wrote: »

Tempted by a couple of 2000 Audi tts for sale at the moment. Theyre both 1.8t Quattros. Anyone know much about them reliability wise? Any common issues to be aware of when checking them out? Thanks

Haldex service (the clutch that controls the 4wd system) needs oil every 20k and a filter every other oil change. If there's no evidence of this i'd walkaway or any knocking clunking from the rear especially when coasting after coming off throttle.

the 225 versions suffer a few more problems that can be hard on the pocket - basically the fuel pumps fail and cause them to run lean, this can lead to the exhaust manifold and or turbo housing cracking, listen for a ticking/puffing noise under acceleration., if there is then forget about it.

marcos_94 · 24-01-2020 02:51PM

tossy wrote: »

Haldex service (the clutch that controls the 4wd system) needs oil every 20k and a filter every other oil change. If there's no evidence of this i'd walkaway or any knocking clunking from the rear especially when coasting after coming off throttle.

the 225 versions suffer a few more problems that can be hard on the pocket - basically the fuel pumps fail and cause them to run lean, this can lead to the exhaust manifold and or turbo housing cracking, listen for a ticking/puffing noise under acceleration., if there is then forget about it.

Thanks for that. I had heard of the haldex service but not of the issues with the fuel pumps so great to know! Id be looking for a 225 as not not sure why id get the 180 (unless someone could tell me otherwise!).

Id be getting it as a weekend car so wouldnt be racking up the miles. This is the one Im quite interested in, in case anyone knows it: https://www.adverts.ie/car/audi/tt/2000-audi-tt-quattro/19545116

vintagevrs · 24-01-2020 08:22PM

Thinking of shifting the diesel for an interesting petrol again, just for a change and trying to make the numbers work. The B58 engine BMW has in their current line up seems to get great reviews, makes the right noises and plenty of power. Cheapest way into one of these is probably in a 140i or 240i so I started to look at 240s. I thought firstly I would need a rough idea of what the VRT would be but couldn't find the 240i on there so stupidly continued. Found some nice 2018 examples, in UK for less than 20k stg. Figured ok then, maybe sell my own privately again and this might be an option thinking VRT might be about 7k(no idea where I got that figure from, obviously pulled it out of my arse)

Went to VRT site again to see could I find another model that could be close to what I was looking for and copped they do have the 240i there, but gave it the full m240i title so it was way down the list. Filled out the details.....and......revenue want €13,700 for a registration document.

There are cars for sale for in the UK that can be bought for €23k (£19.5), but here they have an open market price of €46k according to revenue. They then want 30% of that for a reg.

That's the end of that then....

bazz26 · 24-01-2020 08:34PM

And if some of the fruit loops looking to get elected get their way it will probably be even more. Cannot have nice cars in the country unless you pay through your teeth for one.

punisher5112 · 24-01-2020 08:35PM

Don't forget the Nox tax on top, obviously not so eye watering on petrol but still something to be considered.

bazz26 · 24-01-2020 08:50PM

Max Nox charge for petrol cars is €600 afaik.

There is a 162 M140i for sale on carsireland.ie for 30k. Mileage is a bit on the high side for year though.

Sexual Chocolate · 24-01-2020 10:07PM

86k miles. Someone definitely had an exciting time. Don't think I've done half that since I start driving 7 years ago.

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