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Frequent t.v. watching in school

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,516 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Watching movies or playing board games is standard practice across primary.schoolw during wet lunchtimes when the children can't get out to yard.

    What do you expect to happen?

    As a teacher I hate wet yard as I much prefer being outside.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    Totally agree with this. There are several teachers in our family and the primary school ones would amaze you with the misconceptions parents have gotten by just talking a child's version of events as gospel.

    OP needs to simply speak with the teacher, or principal, and forget the school gate mafia or only the child's version. It's no big deal to enquire from the school on the subject.

    I can only imagine, I agree as well! Neither myself or my wife are of any confrontational mind over it; I do think it's always best to ask for clarification first and then state the feedback we're getting, and the concerns we have. Definitely don't want to get any backs up or cause any offense. Thanks for that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    Watching movies or playing board games is standard practice across primary.schoolw during wet lunchtimes when the children can't get out to yard.

    What do you expect to happen?

    As a teacher I hate wet yard as I much prefer being outside.

    The thing is there's no board games at all being played. I do think maybe there's some clarification needed with the teacher on this. So if that's the norm then yeah I suppose I would expect board games, other interactions or some educational films over Fortnite or Simpsons. I can understand everyone preferring being outside instead. Would be great if budgets allowed covered play yards, especially in this climate!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,289 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    The thing is there's no board games at all being played. I do think maybe there's some clarification needed with the teacher on this. So if that's the norm then yeah I suppose I would expect board games, other interactions or some educational films over Fortnite or Simpsons. I can understand everyone preferring being outside instead. Would be great if budgets allowed covered play yards, especially in this climate!

    To be honest with you man.
    I doubt a lot would want to watch educatioal videos at lunch time and they'd be seen as class work.
    What's the set up in the class room in a wet day. Is it a few teachers wondering around class rooms or is there always one there?
    They may be an SNA in the room but they can't really organise something.
    I wouldn't hold my breath for interactions.
    Can your daughter not get up and sit with her friends at lunch time and make games on there own. You should be encouraging for her to do this without having to be spoon feed by the teacher.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    To be honest with you man.
    I doubt a lot would want to watch educatioal videos at lunch time and they'd be seen as class work.
    What's the set up in the class room in a wet day. Is it a few teachers wondering around class rooms or is there always one there?
    They may be an SNA in the room but they can't really organise something.
    I wouldn't hold my breath for interactions.
    Can your daughter not get up and sit with her friends at lunch time and make games on there own. You should be encouraging for her to do this without having to be spoon feed by the teacher.

    Well we watch bbc documentary films and the like at home which we all enjoy, I supposed that's where my mind is going.

    The setup could be up to 3 teachers in the one room, the main teacher and two helpers for several students. Sometimes it's just one or two teachers - all according to both my kid and another friends kid of course.
    I did ask her if she was allowed to do anything else like games if they wanted and was told no they weren't able to do that. But again, I'd want to clarify this with the teacher first if it were to be raised.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,516 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Let's say I put on something like Blue Planet there would be issues to be dealt with when I went back after lunch as most don't want to watch stuff like that as they see if as an extension of learning which they don't want and leads to incidents occuring. A movie is the lesser of two evils in this regard.

    Board games also tend to lead to arguments due to cheating which will and does happen. Again this has to be dealt with when I return this cutting into lesson time.

    No solution will please everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,516 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Well we watch bbc documentary films and the like at home which we all enjoy, I supposed that's where my mind is going.

    What happens at home and the reality at school are generally very different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    In junior cert year my Irish teacher litetally came into the class every day with a tv and we watched father ted over and over for the whole year. Pretty odd when I look back on it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    Let's say I put on something like Blue Planet there would be issues to be dealt with when I went back after lunch as most don't want to watch stuff like that as they see if as an extension of learning which they don't want and leads to incidents occuring. A movie is the lesser of two evils in this regard.

    Board games also tend to lead to arguments due to cheating which will and does happen. Again this has to be dealt with when I return this cutting into lesson time.

    No solution will please everyone.

    Ah but in fairness, it is school, not a Saturday morning at home?
    What incidents would arise from that "extension of learning?"
    I'm not sure a movie/film/youtube/episode is the lesser of two evils, as those are causing issues with parents - above appropriate age rating, not educational, etc. So if board games could lead to cheating, the solve is to just have an easy/lazy life and let the children zone out instead of learning how to play/get on properly? Someone mentioned it was common for schools to do board games so I would assume they're are or should be prepared to deal with any issues for a couple minutes at least?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,289 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Well we watch bbc documentary films and the like at home which we all enjoy, I supposed that's where my mind is going.

    The setup could be up to 3 teachers in the one room, the main teacher and two helpers for several students. Sometimes it's just one or two teachers - all according to both my kid and another friends kid of course.
    I did ask her if she was allowed to do anything else like games if they wanted and was told no they weren't able to do that. But again, I'd want to clarify this with the teacher first if it were to be raised.

    Just in my opinion now.
    I'm not in the mood to be told I'm sterotyping now.
    These episodes of The Simpsons, etc are probably being played of a kids with needs iPad or laptop.
    Just from what I know these are used to settle down the kids with needs and it's generally something animated that is shown and a documentary wouldn't have the same effect and some would love them. You may so get a kid who's obsessed with documentaries.
    The teachers or the SNA decided to share this with the rest of the class in your case.
    So, they'd probably just restrict it back to the kid and give them headphones. So, it won't effect your daughter.
    Since there are two SNAs in the class room I'd say there is a few issues going on and this may account for why there's behavior issues.
    You need to clarify about games. I find it strange that kids can't play boards games,etc. If they are none in the class room.
    I'd suggest fundraising with the parents council for them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Well we watch bbc documentary films and the like at home which we all enjoy, I supposed that's where my mind is going.

    .

    Now you're going much too far in the opposite direction. It's break time after all.

    And keep in mind, that there are only so many teachers rostered, and paid, daily for break supervision - they need their lunch times as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    This is nothing new, we used to watch Mr Bean and the like for wet lunch breaks/special occasions, and I finished primary school 25 years ago.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    Now you're going much too far in the opposite direction. It's break time after all.

    And keep in mind, that there are only so many teachers rostered, and paid, daily for break supervision - they need their lunch times as well.

    I don't think watching something fit for school, at the frequency that bad weather calls for mind you, is going much too far in the opposite direction. I think you're assuming that if it's not cartoons or other age inappropriate content it's not a break or enjoyed. That's just not true. Of course teachers need their breaks as well; can they not get in a break when the children are watching age appropriate or informative material?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,516 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Ah but in fairness, it is school, not a Saturday morning at home?
    What incidents would arise from that "extension of learning?"
    I'm not sure a movie/film/youtube/episode is the lesser of two evils, as those are causing issues with parents - above appropriate age rating, not educational, etc. So if board games could lead to cheating, the solve is to just have an easy/lazy life and let the children zone out instead of learning how to play/get on properly? Someone mentioned it was common for schools to do board games so I would assume they're are or should be prepared to deal with any issues for a couple minutes at least?

    I was the one said it is common but it all depends on the class and the characters within it. I wouldn't let my current class play board games as they cannot mind stuff. Pieces would be lost, not cleaned up properly and also they are ferocious cheaters which leads to arguments.

    Going back to your questions about what 'incidents' I'd have to deal with. Mainly arguments between those who find it boring and those who want to watch it. I just want an easy life and be able to eat my lunch so a movie is my go to choice. Last year's class were different so continuing on with art and board games was what generally happened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    I don't think watching something fit for school, at the frequency that bad weather calls for mind you, is going much too far in the opposite direction. I think you're assuming that if it's not cartoons or other age inappropriate content it's not a break or enjoyed. That's just not true. Of course teachers need their breaks as well; can they not get in a break when the children are watching age appropriate or informative material?

    I give up. They need the same supervision regardless of what they watch. Citing BBC documentaries and the like is extreme. Nobody is saying the only alternative to them is age inappropriate content or cartons.
    And you said in the OP that it happens all too often.


    Just go and speak with the school!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,516 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    I don't think watching something fit for school, at the frequency that bad weather calls for mind you, is going much too far in the opposite direction. I think you're assuming that if it's not cartoons or other age inappropriate content it's not a break or enjoyed. That's just not true. Of course teachers need their breaks as well; can they not get in a break when the children are watching age appropriate or informative material?

    Look go have the chat with the teacher and don't be that parent who thinks they can go straight to the principal. You might find out that the truth can sometime differ from what you and other parents are hearing at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭fed_u


    I think you have to also take into account the teacher/staff. I'm sure they would much rather the weather was nice and the kids could be let out instead of trying to entertain them during lunch. by putting on a film/video they are simply doing there best. The teachers cannot all be on supervision at lunch and then it is left up to those that are to select something - tv being selected because it means for the most part they will be sitting and not getting into any harm. By showing a suggestion that the students picked they are hoping that the majority will then sit and watch. Maybe the parents could say they are concerned with what is being shown and suggest fundraising for suitable board games, card games, films or books that would be available in each classroom for raining days??


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    Just in my opinion now.
    I'm not in the mood to be told I'm sterotyping now.
    These episodes of The Simpsons, etc are probably being played of a kids with needs iPad or laptop.
    Just from what I know these are used to settle down the kids with needs and it's generally something animated that is shown and a documentary wouldn't have the same effect and some would love them. You may so get a kid who's obsessed with documentaries.
    The teachers or the SNA decided to share this with the rest of the class in your case.
    So, they'd probably just restrict it back to the kid and give them headphones. So, it won't effect your daughter.
    Since there are two SNAs in the class room I'd say there is a few issues going on and this may account for why there's behavior issues.
    You need to clarify about games. I find it strange that kids can't play boards games,etc. If they are none in the class room.
    I'd suggest fundraising with the parents council for them.

    They're being played on from class computer on a projector and everyone watches the same - so far anyway.
    I think we'll ask about the games for classroom thanks for that, and I did hear there are fundraising efforts just starting for a playground so we talked about looking into that and see can we get involved in efforts or otherwise help out.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    I give up. They need the same supervision regardless of what they watch. Citing BBC documentaries and the like is extreme. Nobody is saying the only alternative to them is age inappropriate content or cartons.
    And you said in the OP that it happens all too often.


    Just go and speak with the school!

    Jaysus.
    I'll speak with my wife and see will we just speak to the school. Thanks!


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