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  • 14-01-2020 02:16PM
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    Are you someone who :
    - decides who to vote for according to how good looking they are
    - decides what party to vote for according to their 4 word slogan
    - decides who to vote for according to how many posters they put up
    - need colour coordination and logos to decide which party best represents your political views
    - enjoys the look of election posters adorning the lamp posts of Ireland for a month ?

    Then this campaign is probably not for you.


    If, on the other hand, you dislike the pointless posting of them, dislike the wasted money, energy, and resources they consume, dislike the pollution and unsightlyness they cause the country, then please support this movement.

    For any politicians you meet or who calls to you, ask them how many posters they have/are putting up. Ask them to remove them fortwith and to put up no more. Tell them you will vote for them if they remove them all (given that its politicians you are dealing with, the honesty of this statement is not relevant). And, as far as possible, vote for politicians who dont put up posters.

    The world will be a better place.

    Will you push candidates to remove their posters 146 votes

    Yes : down with that sort of thing
    80% 117 votes
    No : I need posters to help me exercise my vote
    19% 29 votes


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭hellsing101


    The posters can be a bit of an eyesore and I would think that targeted Facebook,Twitter, local papers website ads would do a better job of getting someones name out there than posters.
    Maybe for the older community it helps to give the politicians more exposure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭SnazzyPig


    I hate the bloody things and the waste they represent. Also, it's no better than littering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Maybe hanging a few of the politicians from lamp posts would be a better approach


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Edgware wrote: »
    Maybe hanging a few of the politicians from lamp posts would be a better approach

    That's totally uncalled for.


    Under the Road Traffic Act 1961, posters may not be erected if they obstruct a traffic sign, could be confused with a traffic sign, or obstruct road users' view of the road.




    Also
    Election or referendum posters put up too early or not taken down on time are subject to an on-the-spot litter fine of €150 per poster.


    In the UK they didn't really do posters for the election a while back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    No poster would ever influence me in how I voted.
    Greatest waste of paper ever imo
    Having said that, I'm so tired of all politicians and their lies I'm not voting this time round.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Lyan


    The posters won't come down. It's like nuclear stockpiling. If even just one person has posters it creates an unfair advantage that forces everyone else to put up posters or they will lose out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,055 ✭✭✭✭SeanW


    I would describe the posters as cheap and nasty. And in this case, cheap is good. In places like the United States, elections are fought with expensive TV ad buys etc and are and so expensive overall that most of them are funded K Street lobbying firms, resulting each generation of politician being indebted to said lobbyists. In Washington D.C. laws are made in Congress, but paid for on K Street.

    So if the choice is between a little bit of recyclable plastic posters once every five years vs. widespread and pervasive corruption infecting every aspect of government to the detriment of the citizens and society, guess what? I'll take the posters, thank you very much.

    BTW the wording of the poll is extremely biased, I voted No because while I don't really vote based on what I see on the posters, I do see it as a legitimate way for candidates (and position groups in referendums) to get their message out there. I'd much prefer they stick up a few posters, recycle them afterwards and claim election expenses than suck up to vested interests to get millions to spend on more polished advertising campaigns. Every. Single. Time. Maybe the poll could be re-run without such biased and leading options?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,527 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    Every time these posters go up in areas they are ripped down, pulled at and left dangling and when it comes to removing them, the plastic rip ties are everywhere. Sometimes these are set alight and do massive damage. One poster was lit on fire three years ago and the mess it made is still visible. The melted plastic all over the f*cking ground and the fingal lampost. They are also lethal when the wind gets behind it.

    Down with this sorta thing.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭jem


    I think posters are great.
    Remember not everyone does social media.
    They inform voters who is actually standing
    They give people standing for the first time a chance to gain name recogination which sitting TD's already have.
    Gives people who are changing parties/ changing from a party to independant or visa versa to show that.
    Actually shows people that democracy is happening.
    many of the constituencies are huge and there is no way , even with a well Oiled party machine can every house be called to.
    I agree with SeanW's point re USA
    I actually like the colour they bring to streetscapes.
    I would however limit the number of posters a canidate can put up in an indivudal town


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,215 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    No poster would ever influence me in how I voted.
    Greatest waste of paper ever imo
    Having said that, I'm so tired of all politicians and their lies I'm not voting this time round.

    I hate the posters they really annoy me but I don’t think they are there to get your vote it’s to build brand recognition for the candidates. Without seeing them lots of people won’t know without having to find out who themselves is running locally.
    It’s really too late to be having this conversation now but really there should be agreements put in place to curb this going forward.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,447 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    In the UK they didn't really do posters for the election a while back.

    You'd see the odd roadside ad perhaps but not posters. At least not in cities. Social media would be far more effective IMO.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,168 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Candidates without posters don't get elected. Any canvasser you ask about that will politely leave.

    Everyone says "posters don't affect me!" yet every single time there's an election the candidates without posters get absolutely nowhere. Casey is a rare exception and that's because he had the entire mass media covering him in detail - and he still didn't get elected. Twice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 MichaelKnee


    How am I supposed to decide without the pictures?


  • Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Edgware wrote: »
    Maybe hanging a few of the politicians from lamp posts would be a better approach

    They'd need to be put in Adult sized toddler - Harnesses then, to be put on the lamp posts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Free hobby material, insulation for hen houses, scaring birds off crops, they have loads of uses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,442 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Rather than get rid of them, wouldn't it makes sense to limit their use. As soon as an election is called, every lamp post is given a poster so that you might see the same poster, or at least the same party, numerous times on the same road.

    So rather than ban them outright, as they do have a purpose and an election is something that everyone should be aware of, limit each candidate to X number of posters within their election zone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,954 ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    I agree that election posters are visual litter and a waste of resources, but many voters do use the posters for candidate recognition - candidates are keenly aware of this - and this is why they continue to be put up on lampposts come election time.

    In some countries the use of election posters are banned. I think in Ieland door to door canvassing is essential for any candidate who takes their running in an election seriously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,513 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Would it be a crime to go around taking the posters down?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭jem


    Do think the poll questions are very leading and shows bias by the treat starter.
    Would sugest the options should be changed.
    Do you want posters banned yes or no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭Cina


    I didn't know whether to laugh or cry yesterday when I saw the first ones sticking up sh*tloads of posters were the fecking Green Party.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,168 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Would it be a crime to go around taking the posters down?

    Yes, theft.


  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 45,424 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    one wall in every town / village / community area should be set aside as an "election" wall.

    only the campaigners local to that election can put up a poster, and each campaigner can only erect one poster.

    Thus everyone local to the area will see whos running without having to pass 50 posters on their way to the shops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    No poster would ever influence me in how I voted.
    Greatest waste of paper ever imo
    Having said that, I'm so tired of all politicians and their lies I'm not voting this time round.

    Just want to point out, they're plastic. The irony of these people saying we should go green, all the while sticking up these eyesores everywhere along with plastic cable ties...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Would it be a crime to go around taking the posters down?
    Ask the Shinners, they are at it regularly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    BeerWolf wrote: »
    Just want to point out, they're plastic. The irony of these people saying we should go green, all the while sticking up these eyesores everywhere along with plastic cable ties...

    Well by 'go green' I am sure they merely mean pay more taxes to them. Shysters the lot of them. I might finally carry out my threat not to vote this time.

    Some would say - your loss. I say no loss to me as I am shovelled the same ****e anyway by the next shower in, but at least the contentment of knowing no gain to them from me. "Don't vote; it only encourages them" as good old Spike M said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    one wall in every town / village / community area should be set aside as an "election" wall.

    only the campaigners local to that election can put up a poster, and each campaigner can only erect one poster.

    Thus everyone local to the area will see whos running without having to pass 50 posters on their way to the shops.

    A good idea in theory but imagine the bawling the candidates would have about placement and who gets to go where, why is he over my poster ?? Their poster was on the top line last election too, favouritism , etc, etc, Who would bring that on themselves ??


  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 45,424 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    A good idea in theory but imagine the bawling the candidates would have about placement and who gets to go where, why is he over my poster ?? Their poster was on the top line last election too, favouritism , etc, etc, Who would bring that on themselves ??

    well whats the best position??

    top left? as youd start if you were reading?
    right in the center, where the eye would be drawn to?
    bottom left or right, closer to the eye for older people...

    or you simply draw lots for random placings....

    if they start squabbling publically about something like this they would just be embarrassing themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭quietsailor


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    A good idea in theory but imagine the bawling the candidates would have about placement and who gets to go where, why is he over my poster ?? Their poster was on the top line last election too, favouritism , etc, etc, Who would bring that on themselves ??

    Install billboards that can rotate the posters so every politician gets their poster seen for ten seconds at a time and the posters on a permanent loop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,616 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Do the green party put posters up? very hypocritical if they do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    Ideally what I would like to see is in each constituency produce a booklet that is delivered to every house in which each candidate gets one page where they can lay out why you should vote for them along with website you can go to for more info.
    That combined with dedicated poster billboards as some have suggested would be far better.

    I used to be more against them but I do understand for new candidates it does get there name out there, people suggest the same can be done with social media, I disagree, I use ad blockers and barley use facebook so chances of a candidates ad reaching me are slim enough. Where as if I see a poster I may well look them up to find out more info.

    The problem is it have to be an all or nothing approach, there is no point in individual candidates saying they won't if everyone else is (Peter Casey doesn't count as presidential election with 11 candidates for whole country is different ball game altogether) and I can't see the government legislating for it.


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