Storm Brendan Orange Warning

wiggle16 · 13-01-2020 04:57PM #1

In Dublin here, so I'm not commenting on what it was like in the West, only in the East of the country really... but:

Was that it? Was that seriously it?? That bit of rain was worth a weather warning?

The weather was worse last Saturday morning FFS. I know forecasts can be wrong, but the only weather warning that was in any way justified was for Ophelia - which turned out to be nothing major in many parts of the country. I say it was justified only because of the two people killed, one of which was a freak event in all fairness.

Anyone else think the warning system should be scrapped?

is_that_so · 13-01-2020 04:59PM

Well, it's been and gone on the east coast. Pretty bad for a while but just a nasty winter's day and now beautiful sunshine.

The Tetrarch · 13-01-2020 05:00PM

We West-Brits in The Pale need to know what the yachting weather is like.

WhatsGoingOn2 · 13-01-2020 05:00PM

Every single time there is a storm, same threads.
If it didn't happen in Dublin, it didn't happen...
Look at this to see how many power outages there are countrywide

https://www.esb.ie/esb-networks/powercheck/

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 13-01-2020 05:02PM

I thought the east only had a yellow warning in place.

WhatsGoingOn2 wrote: »

Every single time there is a storm, same threads.
If it didn't happen in Dublin, it didn't happen...
Look at this to see how many power outages there are countrywide

https://www.esb.ie/esb-networks/powercheck/

Yeah, same bitching about Ophelia even though three people died during that storm. People seem almost disappointed when there isn’t more disruption.

jam_mac_jam · 13-01-2020 05:02PM

Better they are over cautious then under cautious.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 13-01-2020 05:04PM

wiggle16 wrote: »

In Dublin here, so I'm not commenting on what it was like in the West, only in the East of the country really... but:

Was that it? Was that seriously it?? That bit of rain was worth a weather warning?

The weather was worse last Saturday morning FFS. I know forecasts can be wrong, but the only weather warning that was in any way justified was for Ophelia - which turned out to be nothing major in many parts of the country. I say it was justified only because of the two people killed, one of which was a freak event in all fairness.

Anyone else think the warning system should be scrapped?

Three people died. All three deaths were storm-related. In a low population country, it wasn’t an insignificant death toll.

biko · 13-01-2020 05:06PM

WhatsGoingOn2 wrote: »

Every single time there is a storm, same threads.
If it didn't happen in Dublin, it didn't happen...
Look at this to see how many power outages there are countrywide

https://www.esb.ie/esb-networks/powercheck/

If it doesn't happen in Dubland it will have a thread in a regional forum.
If it happens in Dubland there will be a thread in AH instead to let the nation know how very important it is..

JohnnyFlash · 13-01-2020 05:09PM

WhatsGoingOn2 wrote: »

Every single time there is a storm, same threads.
If it didn't happen in Dublin, it didn't happen...
Look at this to see how many power outages there are countrywide

https://www.esb.ie/esb-networks/powercheck/

Most of those outages are due to vegetation hitting the lines and causing a trip fault.

This wasn’t a significant storm event. In Dublin it was nothing more than a few moderate gusts and some rain. I hit the golf links this morning hoping for some proper wind and rain so I could work on playing in those conditions. Didn’t even have to take the wet weather gear out of the bag.

13-01-2020 05:09PM

We're not exactly Russia. Our east and west coasts aren't far apart. The west coast being battered can be devastating to the east coast too. Not a great expanse of land for the wind to dissipate into.

Beeping Kitchen Appliances · 13-01-2020 05:10PM

The Tetrarch wrote: »

We West-Brits in The Pale need to know what the yachting weather is like.

There's a terrible blow coming in along the promenade.

punisher5112 · 13-01-2020 05:11PM

I've driven in much worse.

Was driving all morning and there was a few gusts around Dublin and South Dublin but nothing crazy even as the bus acts as a sail.

WrenBoy · 13-01-2020 05:13PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Most of those outages are due to vegetation hitting the lines and causing a trip fault.

This wasn’t a significant storm event. In Dublin it was nothing more than a few moderate gusts and some rain. I hit the golf links this morning hoping for some proper wind and rain so I could work on playing in those conditions. Didn’t even have to take the wet weather gear out of the bag.

We all have our trials on the journey Johnny, stay strong.

Graces7 · 13-01-2020 05:20PM

This was always going to be a West Coast event. Still is raging here on the Mayo coast, until midnight. Gale force winds and deluges. Non stop.

And yes Obviously Desperate Breakfasts they seem to seek worse events

Maybe keep an eye on met.ie.

Marine/coastal areas Red warning and that is justified.

Be thankful if the day was calm.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

I thought the east only had a yellow warning in place.

Yeah, same bitching about Ophelia even though three people died during that storm. People seem almost disappointed when there isn’t more disruption.

wiggle16 · 13-01-2020 05:23PM

biko wrote: »

If it doesn't happen in Dubland it will have a thread in a regional forum.
If it happens in Dubland there will be a thread in AH instead to let the nation know how very important it is..

You didn't read the first line of the OP, no?

jimgoose · 13-01-2020 05:24PM

wiggle16 · 13-01-2020 05:25PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Three people died. All three deaths were storm-related. In a low population country, it wasn’t an insignificant death toll.

I thought it was two. As I said, Ophelia was the one where a warning was justified.

ChikiChiki · 13-01-2020 05:29PM

wiggle16 wrote: »

In Dublin here, so I'm not commenting on what it was like in the West, only in the East of the country really... but:

Was that it? Was that seriously it?? That bit of rain was worth a weather warning?

The weather was worse last Saturday morning FFS. I know forecasts can be wrong, but the only weather warning that was in any way justified was for Ophelia - which turned out to be nothing major in many parts of the country. I say it was justified only because of the two people killed, one of which was a freak event in all fairness.

Anyone else think the warning system should be scrapped?

Christ people are fierce stupid. Met Eireann cannot win.

wiggle16 · 13-01-2020 05:31PM

WhatsGoingOn2 wrote: »

Every single time there is a storm, same threads.
If it didn't happen in Dublin, it didn't happen...
Look at this to see how many power outages there are countrywide

https://www.esb.ie/esb-networks/powercheck/

I knew I'd get this kind of f#cking BS the minute I posted it. Read the first line - I'm talking about the fact that they extended the orange warning over the entire country where there was no need to extend it everywhere.

And what that does is make people complacent about weather alerts. They will start to ignore them if Met Éireann continues to issue warnings in areas where they are not needed, possibly putting themselves in danger.

I'm not "disappointed" it wasn't worse. My da is an electrician, whenever these things happen I won't see him for days so I am relieved when they are not as bad as expected.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 13-01-2020 05:32PM

This was Orange for all the country for a period and the warning was not restricted to the west coast. I can see it was fairly wild in areas but what we got did not warrant an Orange warning. We just about had a Yellow.

Agree with the OP - speaking only about the affect in this area and the orange warning for herd.

wiggle16 · 13-01-2020 05:32PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Christ people are fierce stupid. Met Eireann cannot win.

Met Éireann are defeating the purpose of having countrywide warnings if they are going to make people complacent by issuing orange warnings in areas where they aren't warranted.

lertsnim · 13-01-2020 05:33PM

It was wild on the south coast anyway.

Asitis2019 · 13-01-2020 05:35PM

These warnings are totally unnecessary. Bejesus you would be afraid to leave the house based on some of the reports. A bit of wind and rain, that's all. Sun has been shining for the last three hours or so in Dublin

A load of codswallap and popycock. ME need to tone themselves down. We live in a mild country with very few extremes.

As a result nobody pays any attention to the warnings. They need to get rid of them STAT

GLaDOS · 13-01-2020 05:36PM

Was pretty bloody windy tbf, yellow warning probably more suitable though. Forecasting is always difficult however.

Met Eireann's original warning (West Coast Orange, rest of the country Yellow) may have been more accurate in the end?

Don't like to go too hard on ME though, it's not an easy task.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 13-01-2020 05:41PM

wiggle16 wrote: »

I thought it was two. As I said, Ophelia was the one where a warning was justified.

You also said it was “nothing major”. Three people died. It was major. Like, how much worse does it have to be to qualify?

Ipso · 13-01-2020 05:42PM

Asitis2019 wrote: »

These warnings are totally unnecessary. Bejesus you would be afraid to leave the house based on some of the reports. A bit of wind and rain, that's all. Sun has been shining for the last three hours or so in Dublin

A load of codswallap and popycock. ME need to tone themselves down. We live in a mild country with very few extremes.

As a result nobody pays any attention to the warnings. They need to get rid of them STAT

I think your last word is incomplete

wiggle16 · 13-01-2020 05:43PM

GLaDOS wrote: »

Was pretty bloody windy tbf, yellow warning probably more suitable though. Forecasting is always difficult however.

Met Eireann's original warning (West Coast Orange, rest of the country Yellow) may have been more accurate in the end?

Don't like to go too hard on ME though, it's not an easy task.

No it's not an easy task at all, and I'm not having a go at their ability to forecast or MÉ themselves. I think that this warning system should be scrapped as it's too broad, it's misleading and it inclines Met Éireann to be overly cautious too - there must be a certain amount of "what if we don't issue a warning and it gets even worse? We'll be blamed if anyone gets hurt".

I don't think it's fit for purpose.

ednwireland · 13-01-2020 05:44PM

picking up again now in SW donegal wouldnt want to be out in it thats for sure

Graces7 · 13-01-2020 05:45PM

wiggle16 wrote: »

In Dublin here, so I'm not commenting on what it was like in the West, only in the East of the country really... but:

Was that it? Was that seriously it?? That bit of rain was worth a weather warning?

The weather was worse last Saturday morning FFS. I know forecasts can be wrong, but the only weather warning that was in any way justified was for Ophelia - which turned out to be nothing major in many parts of the country. I say it was justified only because of the two people killed, one of which was a freak event in all fairness.

Anyone else think the warning system should be scrapped?

No; but folk should learn to read it properly and appreciate that with a volatile storm like Brendan that is very large, there can be no exact. precise forecasting and all bases must be covered. Which met.ie did very well.

Had they not done so and worse had affected you? You would have complained then!

Marine /coastal is Red still, until midnight. Totally accurate and raging still

And complaining that the weather was not as bad as forecast?

met ie have to state the worst possible scenario and they do an excellent job.

It is in the reading the issues arise. Most folk have more nous than you give them credit for. This time total accuracy for the greatest areas.

Have a read of the thread on Weather; the experts there are grand.

Asitis2019 · 13-01-2020 05:46PM

wiggle16 wrote: »

No it's not an easy task at all, and I'm not having a go at their ability to forecast or MÉ themselves. I think that this warning system should be scrapped as it's too broad, it's misleading and it inclines Met Éireann to be overly cautious too - there must be a certain amount of "what if we don't issue a warning and it gets even worse? We'll be blamed if anyone gets hurt".

I don't think it's fit for purpose.

A will you go wan and get out of the park

I lived in other countries where if the forecaster said it would snow at 9pm, it would snow at 9pm.

We just don't have that accuracy here

jam_mac_jam · 13-01-2020 05:48PM

And if it had been bad and there was no warning everyone would be moaning about that.

Storm Brendan Orange Warning

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