Fat people at Foodbanks

Feisar · 13-01-2020 02:46PM

Ted_YNWA wrote: »

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Did you ask them about their circumstances?

This is not the place to have a go at anyone, even more so people who need to avail of food banks.

Have some respect and empathy.

Respect is earned and faux empathy is part of the reason these people are in the position they are in. Social welfare is paid to keep people sedated.

13-01-2020 02:56PM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

That's a piss poor comparison. Every person on this planet eats - we have all been exposed to food our whole lives. We're not talking about splitting atoms here - peel a spud, throw it in a pot.

Don't make excuses for stupidity and laziness!

I agree with the laziness angle, to a degree, but can't say I agree with calling people stupid. Everyone is stupid about something until they learn. If you grew up in a household where dinner consisted of chips/wedges plus something else out of the oven or chip pan and you didn't know any different, then of course that's what you're gonna feed your own kids. And it's not just those on the breadline, for example.

We weren't exactly rich growing up, but neither were we dirt poor. But a large family plus at least one parent always working meant dinner almost always consisted of Mash or chips, some form of meat and a load of veg. The veg was, 99% of the time, boiled. Until I grew up and started cooking my own dinners, I always hated broccoli and cauliflower because they tasted like water which had just been used to boil broccoli or cauliflower. I love both, now, but if I'd refused to eat it as a kid unless my Ma made cauliflower cheese, I'd have gotten the slaps. I didn't know any different, though, as I'd never been exposed to anything different so always hated them.

Edgware · 13-01-2020 03:02PM

oceanman wrote: »

I work beside one of these foodbanks and they do great work, all run by volunteers. many people depend on them.

Especially the fat *****

riclad · 13-01-2020 03:06PM

Most homeless people do not have a cooker, or an oven,
people staying in a hostel or a hotel, may have a kettle to make tea or coffee .
Just because someone is homeless does not mean they use drugs,
there are simply not enough rental units avaidable in dublin,
Many landlords do not accept hap payments .
i think most of the people who go to foodbanks have children .
i do,nt think most students are taught to cook ,unless they opt to take on
that subject.
We need a lesson on basic real life economic,s , eg how interest work,s ,loans, tax rates, mortgages ,etc

Chalk McHugh · 13-01-2020 03:08PM

Interesting. I happened to be in Smithfield about 6 months ago and was walking past Brother Crowleys Cappuchin monks place where he feeds hundreds (maybe thousands) of people twice daily. I was with my mother and we couldn't believe the amount of people pulling up around the corner in nice cars and vans and the passenger (nearly always a woman) heading in and coming out with a big food parcel. Seemed to be a lot of travellers and Roma gypsies.

I know a Philipino social worker who told me personally that she had to leave working there for her own mind as the amount of people who were not obviously poor or hungry and were just using the place and taking advantage of Bro Crowleys and the staffs great work made her so disillusioned she decided to leave.

Slightly off topic apologies but another example of the 'what can you get for nothing, self entitled' generation of wasters taking the piss bigtime and nobody saying anythingabout it.

SusieBlue · 13-01-2020 03:08PM

Feisar wrote: »

Respect is earned and faux empathy is part of the reason these people are in the position they are in. Social welfare is paid to keep people sedated.

I think that's a very simplistic answer to what is a very complex problem. You can be damn sure that the ones milking the system, claiming left right and centre are not the ones needing to use food banks to feed their children.

I know personally of a family in Cork where both parents were working but due to high rents, an unexpected illness & debt issues they couldn't even afford food. The dad used to go to Penny dinners every day to collect meals for the children's dinner, he wouldn't bring the kids as they didn't want them to know how bad things were.
I think that's heartbreaking.

Disclaimer: I think social welfare is underregulated & hate spongers as much as the next person.

LirW · 13-01-2020 03:08PM

If people grew up in a household with an unhealthy diet, the chance is very high they won't ever change it. If in your formative first few years of life people are fed unhealthily and their whole environment doesn't value a balanced diet, this can screw kids for life. Bad habits are formed, the taste buds are underdeveloped, often no routine is established and no introduction to different textures happened.

A narrow diet is an uphill battle even if you want to get out of it. So many unconscious associations happen that there can be a genuine disgust.
As someone with very unhealthy eating habits instilled as a child (overeating and not eating at all in a constant change), I still struggle with it and it just takes a little stress to fall back into old patterns.

Basically nutrition should be taught in schools now to have healthier generations down the line, information is already available but there's no need for people to actually learn anything about it.

oceanman · 13-01-2020 03:08PM

Edgware wrote: »

Especially the fat *****

mind you don't fall off that high horse.....the ground might be closer than you think..

wiggle16 · 13-01-2020 03:12PM

Should they have to live off their accumulated blubber until they're thin enough to merit feeding, like a walrus?

Being hungry and poor isn't enough, is it not?

Sardonicat · 13-01-2020 03:14PM

wiggle16 wrote: »

Should they have to live off their accumulated blubber until they're thin enough to merit feeding, like a walrus?

Indeed. OP seems genuinely disappointed he hasn't encountered starving people.

rdwight · 13-01-2020 03:16PM

partyguinness wrote: »

OP,

You should hang around outside the District Court on any given day- you should see the fat lazy skangers waiting around for their criminal case. Family day out.

Let's leave the legal profession out of this

corner of hells · 13-01-2020 03:31PM

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Interesting. I happened to be in Smithfield about 6 months ago and was walking past Brother Crowleys Cappuchin monks place where he feeds hundreds (maybe thousands) of people twice daily. I was with my mother and we couldn't believe the amount of people pulling up around the corner in nice cars and vans and the passenger (nearly always a woman) heading in and coming out with a big food parcel. Seemed to be a lot of travellers and Roma gypsies.

I know a Philipino social worker who told me personally that she had to leave working there for her own mind as the amount of people who were not obviously poor or hungry and were just using the place and taking advantage of Bro Crowleys and the staffs great work made her so disillusioned she decided to leave.

Slightly off topic apologies but another example of the 'what can you get for nothing, self entitled' generation of wasters taking the piss bigtime and nobody saying anythingabout it.

Probably best to close it down.

wiggle16 · 13-01-2020 03:33PM

LirW wrote: »

If people grew up in a household with an unhealthy diet, the chance is very high they won't ever change it. If in your formative first few years of life people are fed unhealthily and their whole environment doesn't value a balanced diet, this can screw kids for life. Bad habits are formed, the taste buds are underdeveloped, often no routine is established and no introduction to different textures happened.

A narrow diet is an uphill battle even if you want to get out of it. So many unconscious associations happen that there can be a genuine disgust.

This is very true.

As put by Quentin Crisp, though he meant it faceitiously: "I take it to be axiomatic that people are revolted by witnessing the shameless gratification of an appetite they do not share."

James Brown · 13-01-2020 03:35PM

It's wasting their money on frivolous lawsuits. I saw Maria down there getting spuds the other day.

partyguinness · 13-01-2020 03:39PM

rdwight wrote: »

Let's leave the legal profession out of this

Do you know what? I saw that coming and I purposefully left it out of parenthesis when I wrote it.

spurious · 13-01-2020 03:46PM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

That's a piss poor comparison. Every person on this planet eats - we have all been exposed to food our whole lives. We're not talking about splitting atoms here - peel a spud, throw it in a pot.

Don't make excuses for stupidity and laziness!

I was once asked (by a person with a Science degree) whether I peeled potatoes before cooking them for mash.
Some people have never seen/watched anyone cook.

Feisar · 13-01-2020 03:58PM

spurious wrote: »

I was once asked (by a person with a Science degree) whether I peeled potatoes before cooking them for mash.
Some people have never seen/watched anyone cook.

I find if you leave them "jackets" on you get a creamier mash.

Also my brother-in-law's Mum left instructions with his sister once to boil cabbage. She came home to the full head of cabbage sitting in the pot boiling.

the beer revolu · 13-01-2020 03:59PM

spurious wrote: »

I was once asked (by a person with a Science degree) whether I peeled potatoes before cooking them for mash.
Some people have never seen/watched anyone cook.

That's a completely reasonable question to ask.

When I worked as veg/starter chef in a high end restaurant, many moons ago, we had to boil the potatoes unpeeled, peel them while still hot and put them through a ricer, beat them with cream, butter and egg yolk and then pipe them, still while hot.

Edgware · 13-01-2020 04:23PM

oceanman wrote: »

mind you don't fall off that high horse.....the ground might be closer than you think..

As long as we have fools available to subsdise me I will be alright

Sardonicat · 13-01-2020 04:25PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

That's a completely reasonable question to ask.

When I worked as veg/starter chef in a high end restaurant, many moons ago, we had to boil the potatoes unpeeled, peel them while still hot and put them through a ricer, beat them with cream, butter and egg yolk and then pipe them, still while hot.

How the he'll do they stay warm? And frankly, most people just mash with butter. What you describe is hardly the standard mashed spuds

Boredstiff666 · 13-01-2020 04:33PM

MrAbyss wrote: »

For some reason doing deliveries in the last month I have stumbled upon food banks and free kitchens around the country. I would say a good 80% of the 'starving' are obese people.

Dont be silly its their hormones that makes them go all fat everybody knows that. Can't be food they never eat. Only had half a slice of toast all week.:rolleyes:

CoBo55 · 13-01-2020 04:42PM

MrAbyss wrote: »

For some reason doing deliveries in the last month I have stumbled upon food banks and free kitchens around the country. I would say a good 80% of the 'starving' are obese people.

You hardly see anyone who looks malnourished. Lots of chain-smoking and sports clothes with named labels on them. I think for the vast majority of the 'clients' they are just parasites who want something else for free that's going and if they have no money for food it is because the spend it all on booze, fags and iPhones. Not to put down the folks who work in these places, but it's just another freebee for the knuckle-scrapers from what I can tell.

It seems to be more of a sense of further entitlement with many, than genuine want.

7/10, you lost points for failing to mention feral kids, giant TV's and free council house.

Edgware · 13-01-2020 04:56PM

CoBo55 wrote: »

7/10, you lost points for failing to mention feral kids, giant TV's and free council house.

Special bonus points for mention of Celtic or Liverpool jerseys

MrAbyss · 13-01-2020 05:15PM

riclad wrote: »

Most homeless people do not have a cooker, or an oven,
people staying in a hostel or a hotel, may have a kettle to make tea or coffee .

These are not homeless people I am talking about. They are living in council houses with cookers and everything they need paid for.

The homeless is a whole other issue so don't be spreading the goalposts of platitudes further apart to take the focus off the parasite skangers on the grift.

corner of hells · 13-01-2020 05:18PM

MrAbyss wrote: »

These are not homeless people I am talking about. They are living in council houses with cookers and everything they need paid for.

The homeless is a whole other issue so don't be spreading the goalposts of platitudes further apart to take the focus off the parasite skangers on the grift.

How can you tell someone is living in a council house ?
Or how'd ya know someone is homeless ?

MrAbyss · 13-01-2020 05:19PM

CoBo55 wrote: »

7/10, you lost points for failing to mention feral kids, giant TV's and free council house.

yes all that too as well

Graces7 · 13-01-2020 05:31PM

Not sure about here but in the UK you have to be assessed and approved before you can use a Food Bank.

You have no idea what needs folk have.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 13-01-2020 05:36PM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Processed food is hugely more expensive than buying fresh vegetables.

As a keen home cook, I don’t know. Yeah you take each component part of a recipe and it won’t be too expensive. Add it all up and the processed thing is probably just as cheap or maybe cheaper.

sbsquarepants · 13-01-2020 05:42PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

As a keen home cook, I don’t know. Yeah you take each component part of a recipe and it won’t be too expensive. Add it all up and the processed thing is probably just as cheap or maybe cheaper.

Maybe if you're trying to follow recipes and needing to stock up on all manner of obscure ingredients, but that certainly won't be what the average frozen ready meal skank is at.

Few spuds, carrots, onions etc. Throw together a few bog standard simple dishes. You could feed a family of 4 or 5 for the price of a takeaway for 1.

You don't need to channel Nigella to serve up bangers and mash!

Maewyn Succat · 13-01-2020 05:52PM

CrankyHaus wrote: »

This does raise the question as to whether some sort of free home cooking and basic home economics classes would be a better investment than a load of duplicated charity soup kitchens and food banks.

A general lack of interest in education or the inability to learn is one of the reasons a lot of these people are in need of the services provided by the food banks in the first place. Teaching only works on people who are interested in learning.

Fat people at Foodbanks

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