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Homebrew Beer Howto

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  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    BeerNut wrote: »
    No. If it doesn't taste right I'd say something else went wrong.

    Is there a standard “infected” flavour or would it depend beer to beer? Like would you know straight away because it tastes bad like gone off food, as this one doesn’t taste rancid or anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    And on the IPA, the kit actually called out for 1.2kg of liquid malt extract but I used 1.2kg of dry malt extract by accident. Is there much of a difference between the two in ratio as it just smells of pure alcohol.
    You would have a bit more sugar so it would end up stronger

    https://www.midwestsupplies.com/blogs/wine-making/liquid-malt-vs-dried-malt-what-is-the-difference-do-i-use-the-same-amount
    The primary difference between liquid and dry malt extract is the amount of water in each. Because the two types of malt are different in water content, a pound of liquid extract and a pound of dry extract differ in sugar content as well. Therefore, liquid and dry extract are not interchangeable in a recipe. However, there is a simple formula to convert between types of extract.

    Malt Syrup: If the final product is syrup, the water content is usually around 20%, with the other remaining 80% composed of sugar and unfermentable solids that are important to brewers.

    Dried Powder: If the final product is a dried powder, the malt extract has undergone a complete evaporation process by way of ""spray drying"", thus removing virtually all of the water.

    Conversion: The ratio for use between the dry and syrup forms of malt extract can be approximated as follows: 1 pound of dry malt extract would roughly equal 1.2 pounds of syrup malt extract. Likewise, 1 pound of syrup malt extract would roughly equal 0.8 pounds of dry malt extract.

    could depend on the brand how much water is in it.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,049 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    There's a spectrum of off-flavours with different causes. They vary in severity and people differ in their sensitivity to them. A beer is only "off" if you don't want to drink it.

    To get proper information on what went wrong with your beers you'd need to bring them to your local homebrew club for tasting.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Probably would make it a bit more then, though the rough readings from the hydrometer showed 4.8%.
    Like said above, it must be something else I made a balls of, maybe when dry hopping or something.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    BeerNut wrote: »
    There's a spectrum of off-flavours with different causes. They vary in severity and people differ in their sensitivity to them. A beer is only "off" if you don't want to drink it.

    To get proper information on what went wrong with your beers you'd need to bring them to your local homebrew club for tasting.

    Ah right, cheers. These are only kits though (haven’t made enough well to warrant getting equipment for the proper stuff yet).
    I thought off meant off as in turned but I think this just tastes like crap then :D

    I’ll still give it another couple of weeks anyway before rescuing the bottles.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,154 ✭✭✭Bogwoppit


    More time in the bottle can cure a lot of bad flavours


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Any tips on getting kit brews to reach an FG level near what would be expected from instructions? Or am I doing something wrong? My latest one again has levelled at 1.018 for the past 4 days. I have the heat belt on it at all times controlled by the inkbird set at 22 (I’ve never seen it outside 21.5-22.5. It was made exactly to the instructions with nothing else added and I sanitised everything to the best of my knowledge. Does dry hopping stop it or do I need to buy a better yeast and throw away the kit one? (It’s a mangrove jacks pouch one with dry hops). Thanks.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,049 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Or am I doing something wrong?
    Yes: reading the instructions. Kit instructions are almost always wrong about everything and should be disregarded immediately.

    Tired yeast could be one issue, but once again: with a kit you get what you're given. Investing in better yeast is not worth the time and money. If you're not happy with the results it's time to move on from kit brewing and take more control over your process.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    I agree with the above. I've had plenty of kits that finished above the stated FG on the instructions.
    I still had a very drinkable beer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭poitinstill


    you can also brew it a bit shorter. eg instead of 23L that might be mentioned ont he instruction leaflet only do 20 or 21 L


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,154 ✭✭✭Bogwoppit


    Hydrate the yeast before you pitch it, ferment the beer at 19.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭raxy


    Bogwoppit wrote: »
    Hydrate the yeast before you pitch it, ferment the beer at 19.

    No need to hydrate dry yeast.

    http://brulosophy.com/2018/11/29/direct-pitch-vs-rehydration-with-dry-yeast-the-bru-club-xbmt-series/


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cheers all for the replies.
    BeerNut wrote: »
    Yes: reading the instructions. Kit instructions are almost always wrong about everything and should be disregarded immediately.

    Tired yeast could be one issue, but once again: with a kit you get what you're given. Investing in better yeast is not worth the time and money. If you're not happy with the results it's time to move on from kit brewing and take more control over your process.

    That’s the last thing you’d all need here is me trying to figure out all-grain brewing :D I have watched a good few videos and I still don’t really understand how people come up with the types or weights/measures for all-grain brews. I’d need to understand a lot more about grains/hops/etc before I could ever come up with it. It’s not that I’m really unhappy with my results so far (apart from the last IPA that went bad some way), everything has been very drinkable especially the dark stuff.
    I would like to do it at some stage though yeah, or even partial, but it probably can’t happen until I get a shed as the equipment is too large to be at in a kitchen. As I’m mainly doing it as a hobby I’d like to make some of my own equipment for the craic anyway. I’d easily build the electrical side of things and I wouldn’t mind brushing up on my TIG welding again.
    you can also brew it a bit shorter. eg instead of 23L that might be mentioned ont he instruction leaflet only do 20 or 21 L

    That’s a good idea, and one I’ve seen mentioned before too. I actually had it in my head and forgot last time round but I’ll make sure I only leave out enough bottles of water to remind myself next time.

    Another thing I probably haven’t really been doing all that well is getting air into it before I put the yeast in. I’ve seen ones shaking fermenters or at least stirring it vigorously and all I’ve really done was pour my bottles of water in from a height. Is this important or is it only really for all-grain since you’ve boiled the O2 out of it? Can you shake it up after the yeast goes in (immediately after I mean) or is that pointless? I’ve seen some stir it in and some not bother.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Transferring to secondary fermenter: helpful or too pointless to be worth the risk?

    I presume it’s done to get it off the yeast sludge in the bottom (though I don’t know if it effects the taste much but it’s a rank smell when you’re cleaning up after bottling) but I also would think that piping it unnecessarily is risky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,154 ✭✭✭Bogwoppit


    I find it helps clear the beer, not sure how it adds any risk, I’ve done 50 plus all grains brews and it’s never caused a problem.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bogwoppit wrote: »
    I find it helps clear the beer, not sure how it adds any risk, I’ve done 50 plus all grains brews and it’s never caused a problem.

    I have a siphon with a clip for my bucket that I use when transferring to bottle and I’ve never created much in the way of bubbling so that might take some risk out of it. The only reason I’m thinking of this now is that I have a light session IPA fermenting (as opposed to dark or stout) so if it helped I might try it.
    Is there a stage you would do it at (gravity) or just sort of half way? I’ll be dry hopping this with 3 days remaining so that would be in the secondary if I did it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,154 ✭✭✭Bogwoppit


    I generally do it after a week or when I see a good amount or trub at the bottom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    not necessary iMO unless you're planning to age or lager the beer.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There’s no aging in my house :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Guys, I got an Xmas pressie of a Balliihoo starter kit and prepared 23l of velvet stout last Saturday which is now due to be moved to my pressure keg, I'll probably get setup and do it tomorrow evening. I have no brewing sugar left, what sugar should I use for the secondary fermentation? It says I use 85g of sugar.

    This is the stout: https://www.balliihoo.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=447&search=Stout


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  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I used brown sugar for a stout before and it was nice. Treacle seems to be very popular for them too.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,049 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    what sugar should I use for the secondary fermentation?
    Do you mean priming for carbonation? That's different from secondary fermentation. It doesn't matter what kind of sugar you prime with as it's only a small amount and will have no effect on the taste.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    BeerNut wrote: »
    Do you mean priming for carbonation? That's different from secondary fermentation. It doesn't matter what kind of sugar you prime with as it's only a small amount and will have no effect on the taste.

    I mean moving from my fermentation bucket to a pressure barrel whatever process that is


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,049 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    That's kegging. Secondary fermentation is when you move it from one fermenter to another and leave it there for an extended period before kegging or bottling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    Guys, I got an Xmas pressie of a Balliihoo starter kit and prepared 23l of velvet stout last Saturday which is now due to be moved to my pressure keg, I'll probably get setup and do it tomorrow evening. I have no brewing sugar left, what sugar should I use for the secondary fermentation? It says I use 85g of sugar.

    This is the stout: https://www.balliihoo.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=447&search=Stout

    When you say last Saturday do you mean the 4th January or the Saturday before? If you made it on the 4th that would be pretty tight for primary fermentation to be finished


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    mordeith wrote: »
    When you say last Saturday do you mean the 4th January or the Saturday before? If you made it on the 4th that would be pretty tight for primary fermentation to be finished

    The instructions for this kit say 4 - 6 days


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    BeerNut wrote: »
    That's kegging. Secondary fermentation is when you move it from one fermenter to another and leave it there for an extended period before kegging or bottling.

    It's also pointless unless you plan to age the beer for 6months or put it in a barrel if you've got one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,278 ✭✭✭mordeith


    The instructions for this kit say 4 - 6 days

    Can take lot longer in colder weather.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    mordeith wrote: »
    Can take lot longer in colder weather.

    It's in the house, it's been at 19' since last Saturday


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,049 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    The instructions for this kit say 4 - 6 days
    Leave it at least two weeks and don't do anything until you're sure the gravity has completely stabilised.


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