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Ireland's Call -- What's the Problem?

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  • #122
    pauliebdub
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    I completely understand the sentiment behind it, but it's just a bloody awful song and I change the channel whenever it comes on.


  • #123
    marieholmfan
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    topper75 wrote: »
    I'd prefer Follow Me Up to Carlow.



    Damn get me a stadium belting that out with a few bodhráns banging, and I'll beat the allBlacks myself without changing out of my jeans.
    Rip off of a Scottish original
    Will you go to Sherriffmuir


  • #124
    Yamanoto
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    corks finest wrote: »
    Exactly as I feel ffs it's our anthem should be played end of, Soldiers song or nada

    'Our anthem' doesn't quite cut it for the many players down the years who've identified as Norn Irish unionists.

    The game's long been organised and administered on a 32 County basis, which is a wholly positive thing. I don't like Ireland's Call, but it's a nod to the different types of Irishness that come together to represent the island as a whole.


  • #125
    MrAbyss
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    Danny Boy


  • #126
    jester77
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    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Write a better one so if its so easy. We'll even give you till tomorrow.

    I'm no writer, but for a nation world-renowned for its poets and writers something a lot better could have been written instead of that drivel.


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  • #127
    Guy:Incognito
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    jester77 wrote: »
    I'm no writer, .

    You don't need to be, you only need to be better than someone struggling with ordinary level English leaving cert.


    jester77 wrote: »
    It's an awful piece of crud, serious cringe. No idea who wrote it, but it's like something you would expect someone struggling with Leaving Cert ordinary level English to put on paper.


  • #128
    Hamsterchops
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    They can claim all they want, NI isn’t in Britain. Britain is an island. The U.K. (or The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland) even makes that distinction of separating GB and NI.

    People are English & British, people can be Scottish & British, people can be Irish & British, & people can be Welsh and British, Indian & British, Cornish but also British + there are so many other permutations which I could go into.

    You seem to have a real issue with NI people claiming to be British, that's your issue.

    The fact remains that "England" doesn't officially have an anthem of its own.....

    Now can we get back on Topic please......

    I like Ireland's call.


  • #129
    marieholmfan
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    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    People are English & British, people can be Scottish & British, people can be Irish & British, & people can be Welsh and British, Indian & British, Cornish but also British + there are so many other permutations which I could go into.

    You seem to have a real issue with NI people claiming to be British, that's your issue.

    The fact remains that "England" doesn't officially have an anthem of its own.....

    Now can we get back on Topic please......

    I like Ireland's call.

    Ireland's call is a banging tune.


  • #130
    johnmcdnl
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    They can claim all they want, NI isn’t in Britain. Britain is an island. The U.K. (or The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland) even makes that distinction of separating GB and NI.

    And you can huff and puff all you want and be technically correct. Meanwhile everyone else will read the article on the royal website and understand that God Save the Queen is the national anthem for the sovereign country of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

    If you want to nit pick you should have said 'Great Britain' is an isand, just again showing how getting down into such little technicalities is a fools game. When you say 'Britain' as opposed to 'Great Britain' you are being ambiguous by your own standards.

    Also, out of curiosity, what's the adjective used to describe items or people from the UK. Hang on, isn't it 'British'? https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/british


  • #131
    El_Duderino 09
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    jester77 wrote: »
    I'm no writer, but for a nation world-renowned for its poets and writers something a lot better could have been written instead of that drivel.

    Any I've absolutely no doubt the same people would still hate it.

    It's new. Some people dislike new things but would never dream of scrutinising the songs that the grew up hearing.

    This isn't the euro vision song contest or a pop song competition. It's supposed to be a song they play before a rugby game. Ireland call is great for that as it's actually about the island standing together against the opposition.


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  • #132
    El_Duderino 09
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    johnmcdnl wrote: »
    And you can huff and puff all you want and be technically correct. Meanwhile everyone else will read the article on the royal website and understand that God Save the Queen is the national anthem for the sovereign country of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

    If you want to nit pick you should have said 'Great Britain' is an isand, just again showing how getting down into such little technicalities is a fools game. When you say 'Britain' as opposed to 'Great Britain' you are being ambiguous by your own standards.

    Also, out of curiosity, what's the adjective used to describe items or people from the UK. Hang on, isn't it 'British'? https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/british

    Britain is interchangeable with Great Britain. It goes back to the Norman invasion. Back then there was Brittany in France and Grand Brittany was what they called the land they invaded.because it was much bigger than Brittany in France.

    Over time the 'grand' turned to 'great' and now it's known as great britain.


  • #133
    Dr. Bre
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    marieholmfan wrote: »
    Ireland's call is a banging tune.

    I hear it’s even better on yokes


  • #134
    Phoebas
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    _Brian wrote: »
    We have a national anthem, it’s an attempt to slide in some alternative to appease the west Brits.
    If I learned anything from this week, it's that it should be replaced immediately with Come Out Ye Black & Tans.


  • #135
    marieholmfan
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    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    I hear it’s even better on yokes
    Can't find a dance remix. Gap in the market and when you do make it stick a banging donk on it!


  • #136
    maudgonner
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    Where's Me Jumper would be a better choice.


    Imagine starting a match with that. The Irish crowd bouncing around the place. The opposition would be so bewildered about what just happened they'd take a good 15 minutes to get over the shock. It would be the Irish equivalent to the Haka.


  • #137
    Elmo
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    maudgonner wrote: »
    Where's Me Jumper would be a better choice.


    Imagine starting a match with that. The Irish crowd bouncing around the place. The opposition would be so bewildered about what just happened they'd take a good 15 minutes to get over the shock. It would be the Irish equivalent to the Haka.

    Surely the lines

    My brother knows Karl Marx
    He met him eating mushrooms in the public park
    He said: "What do you think of my manifesto?"
    "I like your manifesto, put it to the testo"
    Took me down to meet the anarchist party

    Would have to be removed as it highlights the marxist-anarchists?

    Ironically Ireland's Call ends up being the most nationalistic national anthem when its supposed to be inclusive!


  • #138
    razorblunt
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    Elmo wrote: »
    Surely the lines

    My brother knows Karl Marx
    He met him eating mushrooms in the public park
    He said: "What do you think of my manifesto?"
    "I like your manifesto, put it to the testo"
    Took me down to meet the anarchist party

    Would have to be removed as it highlights the marxist-anarchists?

    Ironically Ireland's Call ends up being the most nationalistic national anthem when its supposed to be inclusive!

    If we're going full Cork (which, to be fair, we always should be, like) let's go After All by the Frank and Walters.
    No music fade out just 60k Irish fans continuing the "da da daaaa dededede de".


  • #139
    maudgonner
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    Elmo wrote: »
    Surely the lines

    My brother knows Karl Marx
    He met him eating mushrooms in the public park
    He said: "What do you think of my manifesto?"
    "I like your manifesto, put it to the testo"
    Took me down to meet the anarchist party

    Would have to be removed as it highlights the marxist-anarchists?

    Ironically Ireland's Call ends up being the most nationalistic national anthem when its supposed to be inclusive!

    Nah, that could just be the verse we never really sing, like the one in God Save the Queen where they talk about crushing the rebellious Scots. Or the Germans with 'Deutschland, Deutchland Uber Alles'


  • #140
    Badly Drunk Boy
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    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    People are English & British, people can be Scottish & British, people can be Irish & British, & people can be Welsh and British, Indian & British, Cornish but also British + there are so many other permutations which I could go into.

    You seem to have a real issue with NI people claiming to be British, that's your issue.

    The fact remains that "England" doesn't officially have an anthem of its own.....

    Now can we get back on Topic please......

    I like Ireland's call.
    People are English & British because England is part of Britain.
    People can be Scottish & British because Scotland is part of Britain, although a lot of them Scottish people don't see themselves as British.
    People can be Irish & British but not because Ireland is in Britain. It isn't.

    The Shoulder Song Ireland's Call is an average rugby song but it's not a national anthem, and I seriously doubt if it ever will be.


  • #141
    marieholmfan
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    Elmo wrote: »
    Surely the lines

    My brother knows Karl Marx
    He met him eating mushrooms in the public park
    He said: "What do you think of my manifesto?"
    "I like your manifesto, put it to the testo"
    Took me down to meet the anarchist party

    Would have to be removed as it highlights the marxist-anarchists?

    Ironically Ireland's Call ends up being the most nationalistic national anthem when its supposed to be inclusive!
    It's inclusive of everyone!
    If you love the Queen and the UDA -- Ireland -- Ireland
    Or Michael D and the IRA -- Ireland -- Ireland


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  • #142
    Hamsterchops
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    Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »
    People are English & British because England is part of Britain.
    People can be Scottish & British because Scotland is part of Britain, although a lot of them Scottish people don't see themselves as British.
    People can be Irish & British but not because Ireland is in Britain. It isn't.

    Sounds about right to me, but what about Ireland's call, is it thumbs up or thumbs down?


  • #143
    UrbanFret
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    Might as well sing God save the queen.in fact most of the crowd would probably prefer it. Another example of pandering to the Ulster protestants of which Davy Tweed was a shining example of. Horrible Ditty.


  • #144
    marieholmfan
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    UrbanFret wrote: »
    Might as well save God save the queen.in fact most of the crowd would probably prefer it. Another example of pandering to the Ulster protestants of which Davy Tweed was a shining example of. Horrible Ditty.
    When he scored that try in 91 he was a shining example anyway.


  • #145
    Rodin
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    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    I like it. It's simple and clear. The national anthem is actually a bit embarrassing and holds little relevance to me personally. I hold no I'll will towards the English and I don't feel under siege from the English. So singing a song about being under siege by the English doesn't interest me.

    Ireland call is about Irish people coming together to stand together as a team against the opposition. That's exactly what they're doing while singing and I think it's a very good anthem.

    Outside Ireland people admire it, in my experience anyway.

    Did you get your nationality at one of these ceremonies ?


  • #146
    Elmo
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    marieholmfan wrote: »
    It's inclusive of everyone!
    If you love the Queen and the UDA -- Ireland -- Ireland
    Or Michael D and the IRA -- Ireland -- Ireland

    Please its a purely nationalist song about Ireland
    Hearts of steel and heads are bowing
    Vowing never to be broken
    We will fight, until we can fight no more
    'Til our final requiem is spoken


  • #147
    El_Duderino 09
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    Rodin wrote: »
    Did you get your nationality at one of these ceremonies ?

    Nope. I just don't view my Irishness in terms of anti Britishness. My Irishness based is on positivity which is why Ireland's call resonates with me.


  • #148
    Rodin
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    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    Nope. I just don't view my Irishness in terms of anti Britishness. My Irishness based is on positivity which is why Ireland's call resonates with me.

    Part of the country referenced in Ireland's call is still under British control.

    You're just lucky enough not to live there. If you did you might think differently.
    You embrace Ireland's call but are embarrassed by our national anthem which is cherished by those still under occupation.

    Ireland unfree...


  • #149
    El_Duderino 09
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    Rodin wrote: »
    Part of the country referenced in Ireland's call is still under British control.

    You're just lucky enough not to live there. If you did you might think differently.
    You embrace Ireland's call but are embarrassed by our national anthem which is cherished by those still under occupation.

    Ireland unfree...

    Not as far as I'm concerned. I consider NI as part of the UK not the Republic of Ireland.

    Ireland’s call doesn’t reference a country. It references an island from which the rugby team is picked.

    So yeah, Ireland call represents my Ireland and perfectly encapsulates the Irish rugby team - people from all over Ireland coming together and standing shoulder to shoulder against the opposition.


  • #150
    partyguinness
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    "A Nation Once Again"- You can't beat that.

    "Celtic Symphony" might be a step too far.


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  • #151
    Elmo
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    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    So yeah, Ireland call represents my Ireland and perfectly encapsulates the Irish rugby team - people from all over Ireland coming together and standing shoulder to shoulder against the opposition.

    But not as a country, them up there can stay up there but not Donegal, Monaghan or Cavan, they can stay down here up there on my Island!


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