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Ireland's Call -- What's the Problem?

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  • #92
    Hamsterchops
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    There’s no argument. GSTQ is the English anthem. NI, Wales and Scotland do not have national anthems.

    Quite the contrary.
    God Save The Queen is the UK National Anthem, while England doesn't have an official anthem of its own!

    Constant calls for GSTQ to be dropped from England sporting occasions in favour of something like 'Jerusalem' or Land of Hope & Glory, or Swing Low ...

    It is farcical when England play another home nation & GSTQ is played to represent England.


  • #93
    weldoninhio
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    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    Quite the contrary.
    God Save The Queen is the UK National Anthem, while England doesn't have an official anthem of its own!

    Constant calls for GSTQ to be dropped from England sporting occasions in favour of something like 'Jerusalem' or Land if Hope & Glory...

    It is farcical when England play another home nation & GSTQ is played to represent England.

    My mistake. It is the British national anthem. We were both wrong. Since NI is not in Britain, it is still not their anthem.


    "The British National Anthem in its present form dates back to the eighteenth century. The words and tune are anonymous, and may date back to the seventeenth century.

    'God Save The King' was a patriotic song first publicly performed in London in 1745, which came to be known as the National Anthem at the beginning of the nineteenth century."

    Source: https://www.royal.uk/national-anthem


  • #94
    maccored
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    just use something from Horslips


  • #95
    sondagefaux
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    It's ****e. That's the problem.


  • #96
    Hamsterchops
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    My mistake. It is the British national anthem. We were both wrong. Since NI is not in Britain, it is still not their anthem...

    Wiki says God Save the Queen is the National Anthem of the United Kingdom, Crown Dependencies + many Commonwealth countries too.


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  • #97
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,376 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    I understand the thinking behind Ireland’s Call, and I don’t really have any objections to that, but the first mistake they made with the song was asking Phil Coulter to write it. He wrote Eurovision songs in the 60s, the 1970 England World Cup song, assorted pop songs in the 70s that haven’t stood the test of time and then drifted into what could best be described as muzak, if I was feeling charitable. The song was always going to be cheesier than the Kilmeaden factory. The music is twee and the lyrics are like something written by a 12 year old for a school poetry competition, but that was no doubt lost on the bunch of old duffers in the IRFU who commissioned it. There are always going to be constraints when producing something to be used as an anthem – it has to be playable by a brass band, for example. But surely there are more contemporary songwriters in the country that they could have asked to write for them than someone that even my 77 year old mother would probably consider old-fashioned? Quite simply, the song is an embarrassment.


  • #98
    BarryD2
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    EmmetSpiceland wrote: »
    This is down to Northern Ireland having no cultural identity of its own ...

    Rubbish, have you ne'er heard of the Ulster Fry? Anyway, Northern Ireland and Ulster generally has a strong cultural identity. All that 'looking to the mainland' stuff is just for appearances. The Ulster Prod is a man is his own right.


  • #99
    Church on Tuesday
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    marieholmfan wrote: »
    I don't agree but I won't scorn your simplicity

    TBF it's Luke Kelly that makes that song.


  • #100
    El_Duderino 09
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    Winning_Stroke wrote: »
    No it doesn't.

    Yeah. GSTQ is the anthem of the UK Nations, and lots of the overseas dominions and territories and commonwealth countries.


  • #101
    Arghus
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    I understand why that it's a good idea to have a representative song for a 32 County team that doesn't have the historical baggage of Amhrán na bhFiann, but Ireland's Call is an awful and insipid piece of music. It feels soulless. Could they have thought of nothing a bit more engaging than just having people bellow IRELAND IRELAND in the chorus?


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  • #102
    Collie D
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    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    Yeah. GSTQ is the anthem of the UK Nations, and lots of the overseas dominions and territories and commonwealth countries.

    Which Commonwealth countries use it out of curiosity? Even the Gibraltar football team don’t use it. I’m sure they had GSTQ the first time Ireland played them but they didn’t use it the two times we played them last year. And Gibraltar would be a bit more British than most commonwealth countries.


  • #103
    El_Duderino 09
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    Collie D wrote: »
    Which Commonwealth countries use it out of curiosity? Even the Gibraltar football team don’t use it. I’m sure they had GSTQ the first time Ireland played them but they didn’t use it the two times we played them last year. And Gibraltar would be a bit more British than most commonwealth countries.

    I've no idea. None of them have to play it. Certainly not before a football game.


  • #104
    trashcan
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    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    Ghost Town should be our National Anthem


    Classic Fr Ted moment.


  • #105
    [Deleted User]
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    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    Yeah. GSTQ is the anthem of the UK Nations, and lots of the overseas dominions and territories and commonwealth countries.

    British Overseas territories and Commonwealth realms.

    it is 2020.


  • #106
    weldoninhio
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    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    Wiki says God Save the Queen is the National Anthem of the United Kingdom, Crown Dependencies + many Commonwealth countries too.

    I’m gonna go ahead and trust the actual website of the British Royals over Wiki. Thanks.


  • #107
    Hamsterchops
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    Sorry Weldo but you're mistaken, you must have misread it :)


  • #108
    marieholmfan
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    trashcan wrote: »
    Sorry, what ? Mein Deutsch ist niche so gut. ! I was talking about the tunes, haven’t a breeze about the words to either.

    It's ode to joy


  • #109
    [Deleted User]
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    marieholmfan wrote: »
    I think it's great.

    Far better than the absurd and dishonest dirge that is the Shonny Conny song!


    Buion dar slua, tar toinn do rainig cugainn


    Well that's just a lie! Irish America never did anything for us (apart from the Fenians of course - but the assimilated Irish in America proved a disgusting pack of traitors. Okay there's James Connolly but Scotland isn't e



    Compare that to 'We have come to answer our country's call from the four proud provinces of Ireland'


    Undeniably true!

    Because it’s just a little song for sports where loyalists are involved so they have to be appeased for some reason. It’s not a national anthem for Ireland so you’re not composing the same things. Definitely doesn’t represent me with the British included.


  • #110
    marieholmfan
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    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Because it’s just a song for sports where loyalists are involved so they have to be appeased for some reason. It’s not a national anthem for Ireland.

    Not too many loyalists at Ravenhill Reggie!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTiqlcjTo1s


  • #111
    [Deleted User]
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    marieholmfan wrote: »
    Not too many loyalists at Ravenhill Reggie!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTiqlcjTo1s

    Ravenhill? The home of rugby in Northern Ireland? There’s nothing but.


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  • #112
    El_Duderino 09
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    marieholmfan wrote: »
    Not too many loyalists at Ravenhill Reggie!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTiqlcjTo1s

    The lyrics aren't complicated, but I like it. Good song.


  • #113
    topper75
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    I'd prefer Follow Me Up to Carlow.
    From Tassagart to Clonmore,
    There flows a stream of Saxon gore
    O, great is Rory Óg O'More,
    At sending the loons to Hades.
    White is sick, Grey is fled,
    Now for black FitzWilliam's head
    We'll send it over dripping red,
    To Queen Liza and her ladies.

    Damn get me a stadium belting that out with a few bodhráns banging, and I'll beat the allBlacks myself without changing out of my jeans.


  • #114
    weldoninhio
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    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    Sorry Weldo but you're mistaken, you must have misread it :)


    "The British National Anthem in its present form dates back to the eighteenth century. The words and tune are anonymous, and may date back to the seventeenth century.

    'God Save The King' was a patriotic song first publicly performed in London in 1745, which came to be known as the National Anthem at the beginning of the nineteenth century."


  • #115
    Guy:Incognito
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    jester77 wrote: »
    It's an awful piece of crud, serious cringe. No idea who wrote it, but it's like something you would expect someone struggling with Leaving Cert ordinary level English to put on paper.

    Write a better one so if its so easy. We'll even give you till tomorrow.


  • #116
    Beanntraigheach
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    "The British National Anthem in its present form dates back to the eighteenth century. The words and tune are anonymous, and may date back to the seventeenth century.

    'God Save The King' was a patriotic song first publicly performed in London in 1745, which came to be known as the National Anthem at the beginning of the nineteenth century."
    It's a rip-off of a French original :D -



  • #117
    Hamsterchops
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    "The British National Anthem in its present form dates back to the eighteenth century. The words and tune are anonymous, and may date back to the seventeenth century.

    'God Save The King' was a patriotic song first publicly performed in London in 1745, which came to be known as the National Anthem at the beginning of the nineteenth century."

    Yes yes yes, that's all good but nowhere does it say that God Save The Queen is not the national anthem of the UK.


  • #118
    weldoninhio
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    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    Yes yes yes, that's all good but nowhere does it say that God Save The Queen is not the national anthem of the UK.

    It literally says it’s the British anthem. NI is not in Britain.


  • #119
    Hamsterchops
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    It literally says it’s the British anthem. NI is not in Britain.

    Oh I see your angle ..... but might there be a lot of wee people in NI who claim to be British?

    The UK includes NI.


  • #120
    milehip
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    Can't stand Direlands Call, but if it puts the mental challenged
    -who can't grasp the simple fact that Ireland play rugby, not the Republic of Ireland-
    noses out of joint, then I'm all for it being played.


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  • #121
    weldoninhio
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    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    Oh I see your angle ..... but might there be a lot of wee people in NI who claim to be British?

    The UK includes NI.

    They can claim all they want, NI isn’t in Britain. Britain is an island. The U.K. (or The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland) even makes that distinction of separating GB and NI.


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