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Mens Rights Thread

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  • #4292
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    logseman wrote: »
    Your mate over there is all about "deranged" and "twisted minds" and "the USA". None of those words have been typed by yours truly.

    Stop deflecting.

    You made the connection between Mass murderers/shooters and modern day hysteria culture.

    You have made no reasonable attempt to explain why you make such a link.

    This reflects you and your own mindset.


  • #4293
    LoughNeagh2017
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭LoughNeagh2017


    Men should have a right to access sex, the physical touch of a woman is a human necessity. We have seen a rise of involuntary celibate killers this decade and it is only going to rise because of the rise of hypergamy.
    Prostitution should be legal, safe and affordable and men with physical or social disabilities should receive prostitution tokens from the government. Having said that I think someone like me couldn't even enjoy sex because of the anxiety involved, realistic sex dolls would be more suitable, there is a sex doll brothel in Finland.


  • #4294
    Reviews and Books Galore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Reviews and Books Galore


    LoughNeagh2017 wrote: »
    Men should have a right to access sex, the physical touch of a woman is a human necessity. We have seen a rise of involuntary celibate killers this decade and it is only going to rise because of the rise of hypergamy.
    Prostitution should be legal, safe and affordable and men with physical or social disabilities should receive prostitution tokens from the government. Having said that I think someone like me couldn't even enjoy sex because of the anxiety involved, realistic sex dolls would be more suitable, there is a sex doll brothel in Finland.


    I am sorry, but that is incredibly wrong. What in the world are you talking about celibate killers for? I can think of one who was a half asain guy primarily motivated by shame towards his own race.



    Men aren't dogs that are going to lose control without some kind of 'kennel'/.


  • #4295
    logseman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 ✭logseman


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Stop deflecting.

    You made the connection between Mass murderers/shooters and modern day hysteria culture.

    You have made no reasonable attempt to explain why you make such a link.

    This reflects you and your own mindset.

    My mindset is that there are ways to participate in society. Some are violent, some aren’t. At least two different ways have been observed: killing people and then writing manifestos about perceived slights that have been made to us as men (“My Twisted World” being a salient example) or writing about actual slights that have made to us as men... and then not killing anybody. That I prefer the latter over the former does reflect me and my own mindset, and it is an accusation I am willing to bear.


  • #4296
    Reviews and Books Galore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Reviews and Books Galore


    logseman wrote: »
    My mindset is that there are ways to participate in society. Some are violent, some aren’t. At least two different ways have been observed: killing people and then writing manifestos about perceived slights that have been made to us as men (“My Twisted World” being a salient example) or writing about actual slights that have made to us as men... and then not killing anybody. That I prefer the latter over the former does reflect me and my own mindset, and it is an accusation I am willing to bear.


    Men can't be put into the two examples that you just gave.



    You do realise that school shooting has more to do with bullying and mental helath than the evil men losing control?


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  • #4297
    Pawwed Rig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,461 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    So killing people or not killing people are the 2 ways to 'contribute to society' and you advocate the second one?

    Thanks


  • #4298
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    logseman wrote: »
    My mindset is that there are ways to participate in society. Some are violent, some aren’t. At least two different ways have been observed: killing people and then writing manifestos about perceived slights that have been made to us as men (“My Twisted World” being a salient example) or writing about actual slights that have made to us as men... and then not killing anybody. That I prefer the latter over the former does reflect me and my own mindset, and it is an accusation I am willing to bear.

    Lay off the eggnog sir!


  • #4299
    iptba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,932 ✭✭✭iptba


    "The Princess and the Plow Horse" (7 minutes)
    A parable of relations between men and women
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAeSTsDc4qE

    Written version:
    https://www.avoiceformen.com/women/the-plow-horse-and-the-princess/


  • #4300
    logseman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 ✭logseman


    Reviews and Books Galore wrote: »
    Men can't be put into the two examples that you just gave.



    You do realise that school shooting has more to do with bullying and mental helath than the evil men losing control?

    No, I do realise that most acts of killing, the acts of those people included, are made by perfectly mentally healthy people who have a self-imposed mission towards whose fulfillment there is no price too dear. The wholesale dismissal of their actions as some sort of automatic reaction to "being bullied" or a "mental illness" is patronizing and completely inaccurate: the large majority of those people perceive reality exactly like everyone else, and (at least in my personal experience) being bullied doesn't bring one to kill anybody.

    Considering that they are mentally healthy, the question is how are they led to those "missions", by which influences, and whether they succeed in their stated goals. The answer to the last one is a resonant yes, given that for each strike we have several copycats of further radicalised people. The answer to the other two is something that is also fairly clear, but I have been told to lay off the eggnog.


  • #4301
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,247 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    LoughNeagh2017 wrote: »
    Men should have a right to access sex, the physical touch of a woman is a human necessity. We have seen a rise of involuntary celibate killers this decade and it is only going to rise because of the rise of hypergamy.
    Prostitution should be legal, safe and affordable and men with physical or social disabilities should receive prostitution tokens from the government. Having said that I think someone like me couldn't even enjoy sex because of the anxiety involved, realistic sex dolls would be more suitable, there is a sex doll brothel in Finland.

    Can i ask, what do you genuinely think having sex with a woman or sex doll will genuinely do to improve your life / mental health ?


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  • #4302
    iptba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,932 ✭✭✭iptba


    https://www.dailywire.com/news/the-top-3-biggest-pr-fails-of-2019
    The Top 3 Biggest PR Fails Of 2019

    The Best A Man Can Be…?
    We’ll start with an ad campaign that kicked off the year — and promptly ticked off a big percentage of the brand’s target audience through its “toxic” perspective. We’re talking, of course, about Gillette’s infamous “toxic masculinity” campaign that launched in January with this remarkably ill-advised, pedantically “woke” ad:


  • #4303
    Pawwed Rig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,461 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Not arguing with you but the daily wire is a source I would treat with a good dose of healthy scepticism. Look at the Kaepernick section for example. My understanding of that situation is completely at odds with what is being written there.


  • #4304
    Calhoun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/education/green-light-for-first-20-women-only-professor-roles-in-higher-education-38830975.html

    Looks like Miss Piggy is finally getting her way with the discriminatory women only roles. Good to remember with the up coming election.


  • #4305
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    LoughNeagh2017 wrote: »
    Men should have a right to access sex, the physical touch of a woman is a human necessity. We have seen a rise of involuntary celibate killers this decade and it is only going to rise because of the rise of hypergamy.
    Prostitution should be legal, safe and affordable and men with physical or social disabilities should receive prostitution tokens from the government. Having said that I think someone like me couldn't even enjoy sex because of the anxiety involved, realistic sex dolls would be more suitable, there is a sex doll brothel in Finland.

    There is something exceptionally wrong with all of your points there.

    Men should never have a RIGHT to access sex. That is bizarre and frankly dangerous attitude to have towards sex.

    Prostitution should be legal and safe in my opinion but as regards to tokens and affordability? Not a chance. A woman or man should be able to choose if they wish to trade sex for money, and they should also be able to put a price on what they think it is worth. A price cap or government subsidy towards the price a person puts on their body is a ridiculous idea.

    If you want to have sex with a sex doll, by all means go ahead. But never, ever think that you have a RIGHT to sex with someone else.

    You don't.


  • #4306
    Calhoun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Deleted User wrote: »
    There is something exceptionally wrong with all of your points there.

    Men should never have a RIGHT to access sex. That is bizarre and frankly dangerous attitude to have towards sex.

    Prostitution should be legal and safe in my opinion but as regards to tokens and affordability? Not a chance. A woman or man should be able to choose if they wish to trade sex for money, and they should also be able to put a price on what they think it is worth. A price cap or government subsidy towards the price a person puts on their body is a ridiculous idea.

    If you want to have sex with a sex doll, by all means go ahead. But never, ever think that you have a RIGHT to sex with someone else.

    You don't.

    I believe the user in particular is on the spectrum, not that it's a excuse but there are other posts around the site where stuff has been lost in translation.


  • #4307
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Calhoun wrote: »
    I believe the user in particular is on the spectrum, not that it's a excuse but there are other posts around the site where stuff has been lost in translation.

    I have just seen that from some posts on different topics.

    This is in no way an attack on the poster. I just think that he should know that some of his thoughts, or perhaps the way he puts forward some thoughts, are inherently incorrect.


  • #4308
    Calhoun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I have just seen that from some posts on different topics.

    This is in no way an attack on the poster. I just think that he should know that some of his thoughts, or perhaps the way he puts forward some thoughts, are inherently incorrect.

    For sure and I did not read it as an attack, I really disagree with what the poster is saying as well, just I have seen them post elsewhere about their diagnosis.


  • #4309
    iptba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,932 ✭✭✭iptba


    Calhoun wrote: »
    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/education/green-light-for-first-20-women-only-professor-roles-in-higher-education-38830975.html

    Looks like Miss Piggy is finally getting her way with the discriminatory women only roles. Good to remember with the up coming election.
    I previously set up this thread:
    Rank Irish political parties on their willingness to discriminate against men/similar
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057928264


  • #4310
    Calhoun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    iptba wrote: »
    I previously set up this thread:

    She is going for broke so close to an election, it is a vain attempt to look like she is doing something. It would be allot more credible if we had a task group setup in the primary/secondary sector or even in the lower level professors/lecturers which i believe women outnumber men.

    All it shows is that she is still on the women are victims record, that record doesn't seem to be playing well in other jurisdictions.

    Will it save her? who knows but its just another reason not to vote FG.


  • #4311
    iptba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,932 ✭✭✭iptba


    Calhoun wrote: »

    Will it save her? who knows but its just another reason not to vote FG.
    Unfortunately, I’m not sure which parties there are in Ireland that won’t discriminate against men.


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  • #4312
    Calhoun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    iptba wrote: »
    Unfortunately, I’m not sure which parties there are in Ireland that won’t discriminate against men.

    True enough, all we can hope is the tide starts turning soon.


  • #4313
    iptba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,932 ✭✭✭iptba


    Calhoun wrote: »
    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/education/green-light-for-first-20-women-only-professor-roles-in-higher-education-38830975.html

    Looks like Miss Piggy is finally getting her way with the discriminatory women only roles. Good to remember with the up coming election.


    I just saw this elsewhere. Note that it is from 2015:
    In the first "empirical study of sexism in faculty hiring using actual faculty members", Cornell University researchers found that when using identical qualifications, but changing the sex of the applicant, "women candidates are favored 2 to 1 over men for tenure-track positions in the science, technology, engineering and math fields."
    National hiring experiments reveal 2:1 faculty preference for women on STEM tenure track
    https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2015/04/08/1418878112.abstract


    As I have mentioned before, it would be good to see more of such empirical studies where things are controlled for, except the gender to see what are the true effects of gender in different scenarios.


  • #4314
    Huntergonzo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭Huntergonzo


    iptba wrote: »
    I previously set up this thread:

    Women only professor roles???? Surely this is a scandal!!

    Could you imagine the shítstorm if it was the other way around?

    Of course the best way to try and beat the loony left is to play them at their own game.

    Men can still apply for those professor roles so long as they 'identify as women'. Then if they don't get the jobs, scream about trans discrimination :-)


  • #4315
    05eaftqbrs9jlh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    iptba wrote: »
    I just saw this elsewhere. Note that it is from 2015:



    https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2015/04/08/1418878112.abstract


    As I have mentioned before, it would be good to see more of such empirical studies where things are controlled for, except the gender to see what are the true effects of gender in different scenarios.

    Here's why it's necessary.
    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/education/universities-to-lose-funding-if-more-women-not-promoted-1.3280674%3fmode=amp

    Persistent systemic gender bias just needs to be addressed like.


  • #4316
    Calhoun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Briella Thundering Robbery wrote: »
    Here's why it's necessary.
    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/education/universities-to-lose-funding-if-more-women-not-promoted-1.3280674%3fmode=amp

    Persistent systemic gender bias just needs to be addressed like.

    It needs to be addressed by introducing sexist and discriminatory positions ? It would have allot more credibility if it look at all sectors in education / public sector and struck a balance but it does not.


  • #4317
    Sleepy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,620 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    So we now have a Minister for State with responsibility for Education actively damaging our third level sector in the name of gender politics. Lovely.

    Anyone who thinks this won't result in the hiring of less qualified candidates and a reduced quality of education for third level students is delusional. The STEM subjects are pretty much the only area of third level where males outnumber females (and often to a huge degree in many engineering / computer related subjects). Add in the effect of men to cluster at the extremes of the bell curve and you'll find the number of the best qualified candidates for these professorships to be very heavily male skewed. This move will, quite literally, result in poorer qualified candidates getting roles on the basis of their gender (and those rare women who are genuinely the best candidates in these fields regardless being seen as token hires and dismissed as such).

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  • #4318
    iptba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,932 ✭✭✭iptba


    This turned up in my Tumblr feed:
    me talking to a man: i know. i know. yeah i know. i know. i’m aware. yes i already know that
    Source: chthonicillness
    78,566 notes
    https://anxious-and-in-pain.tumblr.com/post/190223324861

    So over 39,000 people have either liked and/or re-blogged this. Reverse the genders, and it would be seen as sexist and many would complain.


  • #4319
    iptba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,932 ✭✭✭iptba


    The LinkedIn app gives an update most days, highlighting 2 or 3 items of news. This was the first one today:
    https://www.linkedin.com/feed/news/eu-bank-boosts-women-led-businesses-4750180/
    EU bank boosts women-led businesses
    By Pieter Cranenbroek, Editor at LinkedIn
    Updated 16 hours ago

    Women entrepreneurs in Poland are about to get a shot in the arm, thanks to the European Investment Bank. The EU’s lending arm has loaned €500 million to leasing company Europejski Fundusz Leasingowy and €100 million to Bank Pekao on the condition that part of the funding goes to companies owned or led by women. Though Poland has one of the lowest gender pay gaps, women continue to be under-represented in top jobs in business and politics.


  • #4320
    iptba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,932 ✭✭✭iptba


    Katie Byrne: 'Love Island short-shaming highlights women's double standards'
    https://www.independent.ie/style/beauty/body/katie-byrne-love-island-short-shaming-highlights-womens-double-standards-38866267.html


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  • #4321
    FishOnABike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Is this a first in Ireland? " New domestic abuse refuge in Galway will allow mothers to bring their teenage sons with them"

    https://www.thejournal.ie/domestic-abuse-refuge-galway-4969215-Jan2020/

    while it is to be welcomed, that it is newsworthy serves to highlight the discriminatory nature of the vast majority of services to date.

    There is still a lack of services for male victims of domestic violence. All services should provide self contained family units on a needs basis without any bias.

    Is there any hope that gender quotas could be implemented or is that only for politicians, boards of management and job recruitment?


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