We need rationing and wartime style restrictions..

Sick to the teeth of being lectured to by the irish media. The irish times, newstalk and rte being the main culprits. They wont hold the political class to account in any real manner but they will lecture the people at the drop of the hat on how we should live our lives. Its no wonder their circulation numbers are dropping like a stone,

I know we need to change, but i care little what the media have to say on it any longer and gibbons can keep his opinions. These kind of articles will not help the climate in the slightest, and will omly piss people off even further. The more you tell someone they have to do something, the less likely they will.

X111111111111 wrote: »

The problem is bigger than Ireland tbh. Africans don't get child maintenance handouts yet they keep popping out kids by the dozen, same as most poorer nations. Let them sink or swim and put all the money we waste towards "helping" them towards thre security of european borders.

Every conversation on climate change, it is always someone else problem


Why don't we, Ireland, concentrate on our own problems instead of pointing at other people?

tototoe wrote: »

Sick to the teeth of being lectured to by the irish media. The irish times, newstalk and rte being the main culprits. They wont hold the political class to account in any real manner but they will lecture the people at the drop of the hat on how we should live our lives. Its no wonder their circulation numbers are dropping like a stone,

I know we need to change, but i care little what the media have to say on it any longer and gibbons can keep his opinions. These kind of articles will not help the climate in the slightest, and will omly piss people off even further. The more you tell someone they have to do something, the less likely they will.

Unfortunately the only method to try and educate people is via the media. Unless you are going to ask everyone who is 20+ to go back to school.



Electric cars was mentioned, the government decided for last 10 years to go with carrot. Big grants, free home chargers, reduced tolls, BIK 0% etc etc and nothing. So now the big stick comes out. Cue mass complaining



It will be the same with solar PV, heat pumps etc. People are happy as wee piggies in poo using electricity and burning oil till cows come home. Huge grants available now to change. Nobody will use them, so the big stick will come out again and people will cry and complain.



The government use the press to try and educate people in the hope they will see the bigger picture and switch now. Some do. Majority don't.

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Oh we are..... we are doing it nice and quietly. notice the rising rates of Alzheimer's and Parkinsons? The solution to this is to propose euthanasia. Then kill the youth with abortions. Make a never seen before homeless population. Then there are rising levels of Autism. oh its all happening!!

The rising rates due to people living longer - there are two things that will kill anyone who lives long enough - cancer, degenerative diseases (yes I know cancer is a type of degenerative disease)

X111111111111 wrote: »

The problem is bigger than Ireland tbh. Africans don't get child maintenance handouts yet they keep popping out kids by the dozen, same as most poorer nations. Let them sink or swim and put all the money we waste towards "helping" them towards thre security of european borders.

The fertility rate of Africa as a continent has fallen from about 7 to 4.5 (which is still high globally obviously) over the last 40 years or so, the continent has some big variations - a bit like Europe used to when the Irish were popping them out by the half dozen.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Unfortunately the only method to try and educate people is via the media. Unless you are going to ask everyone who is 20+ to go back to school.



Electric cars was mentioned, the government decided for last 10 years to go with carrot. Big grants, free home chargers, reduced tolls, BIK 0% etc etc and nothing. So now the big stick comes out. Cue mass complaining



It will be the same with solar PV, heat pumps etc. People are happy as wee piggies in poo using electricity and burning oil till cows come home. Huge grants available now to change. Nobody will use them, so the big stick will come out again and people will cry and complain.



The government use the press to try and educate people in the hope they will see the bigger picture and switch now. Some do. Majority don't.

Well they would want to get real then, less lecturing. The government push their own agenda through the media, it's not nessecarily about educating and to believe it is would be extremely naïve. The media in Ireland are not trustworthy and haven't been for quite a while so to think everyone is going to accept ramblings about climate and other topics from the likes of George Lee or Derek moony or Una nullally, or in the case gibbons...you will be waiting a long time for change. A long time

tototoe wrote: »

Far too expensive. I looked at it in July and even with the 5k, it was a complete non runner. I'm a prime candidate for one, my commute is 2km, but I do have limited business usage. I would drive one, but the carrots are just not enough in the context of buying a new car.

Better off with a cheap Japanese petrol

If you can get them insured cheaply

tototoe wrote: »

Well they would want to get real then, less lecturing. The government push their own agenda through the media, it's not nessecarily about educating and to believe it is would be extremely naïve. The media in Ireland are not trustworthy and haven't been for quite a while so to think everyone is going to accept ramblings about climate and other topics from the likes of George Lee or Derek moony or Una nullally, or in the case gibbons...you will be waiting a long time for change. A long time

Hence why the stick comes out


Personally I always prefer the carrot and try to reap the rewards of the carrot so when the big stick comes out I am not as affected as some other people....

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Can you not work it out for yourself that you might need to change a few things? Surely you don't need the media to point out the obvious? I presume you're of reasonable intelligence.
I've never felt like I've been lectured by any people with green interests on the TV or radio by the way.

If you read my previous post you would know I said we need to change... But you carry on

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

The plan should be to improve public transport to a standard that it’s a viable alternative to using a car, that should be the carrot.

I 100% agree. Problem is the government won't invest in public transport because at the moment the public won't use it. So it's chicken and egg situation.



It is easier for someone to walk about the front door and hop into a car, then complain about the traffic. In the major cities dramatic change will have to happen to push people towards public transport