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Being harrassed by an ex when I have long since moved on...

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  • #32
    Batgurl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Batgurl


    AulWan wrote: »
    Disclosure of personally identifying information is considered a GDPR breach. Revealing the name of the owner of a phone number is most definitely personal information.

    The Garda already had a report of the number that was calling the OP's phone - they do not need to check if the owner of the number was "known to them". They should have advised the OP to block the number and then passed the information of the OPs complaint and the identity of the caller to whatever area deals with nuisance calls to deal with.

    Actually “the processing of personal data by competent authorities for law enforcement purposes is outside the GDPR’s scope (e.g. the Police investigating a crime). Instead, this type of processing is subject to the rules in Part 3 of the DPA 2018.”

    https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protection/guide-to-the-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr/exemptions/?q=article+4

    The relevant section for this which indicates the guard acted completely legally can be found in DPA 2018, Part 3, 38 (1) (b).


  • #33
    Batgurl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Batgurl


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    That's not in the op

    Ringing some as a stand alone incident isn't harassment
    There might be a genuine reason to contact them

    Wasn’t a stand alone incident. That’s in the OP. I’m pretty sure the OP is capable of deciding for themselves if they feel harassed or not. Certainly they can do it better than random strangers on the internet.


  • #34
    SaintLeibowitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 163 ✭✭SaintLeibowitz


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    I have actually experienced this albeit it second hand
    My gf has a fool that keeps ringing her I have suggested guards etc

    There us nothing in you OP to suggest he knew you blocked him and didn't want contact.

    Most of the rest of your post is new information

    You still havnt answered whether you asked him what he wants he might have a genuine reason to contact you. If not then tell him to leave you alone

    If someone is not answering your calls and blocking you on social media. You'd have to be pretty dumb not the get the message.


  • #35
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Batgurl wrote: »
    Wasn’t a stand alone incident. That’s in the OP. I’m pretty sure the OP is capable of deciding for themselves if they feel harassed or not. Certainly they can do it better than random strangers on the internet.

    i mean someone (ex) tried to contact you over the coure of a week as one incident. its not like there was months of calling.


  • #36
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    SaintLeibowitz wrote: »
    If someone is not answering your calls and blocking you on social media. You'd have to be pretty dumb not the get the message.

    nice stealth edit to cover your insults

    blocking someone doesnt stop the phine ringing on the callers side. you wouldnt know. i have acidentally blocked a few people with a new phone i had a few years ago. they didnt know ,just couldnt get through.
    lots of people dont answer new number


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  • #37
    AulWan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    Batgurl wrote: »
    Actually “the processing of personal data by competent authorities for law enforcement purposes is outside the GDPR’s scope (e.g. the Police investigating a crime). Instead, this type of processing is subject to the rules in Part 3 of the DPA 2018.”

    https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protection/guide-to-the-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr/exemptions/?q=article+4

    The relevant section for this which indicates the guard acted completely legally can be found in DPA 2018, Part 3, 38 (1) (b).

    Batgurl, why do you have to turn every thread into a point scoring exercise? And that link refers to the UK.

    Look, the Garda acted rashly. Confirming the OPs ex as the owner of the number, when no crime has been committed, is a breach of his personal data.

    Making a phone call , is not a crime. Its also possible the calls could have been made by someone else with access to his phone - e.g. his girlfriend.

    Besides, according to the OP already knew he owned the phone number - she claims he'd been texting about stuff on her facebook. So there was no need for the Garda to confirm anything. So something doesn't quite add up with her story either.

    Starting to believe this is just another attention seeking troll post.

    Have at it.


  • #38
    Hoboo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    AulWan wrote: »
    Starting to believe this is just another attention seeking troll post.


    It's Boards starting threads to keep participation/visitor numbers up. Advertisement SLA's must be met. The whole site is littered with lazy, random, and long winded OP's started by new accounts who then disappear, and never interact in the thread they started.


  • #39
    hurikane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭hurikane


    Hoboo wrote: »
    It's Boards starting threads to keep participation/visitor numbers up. Advertisement SLA's must be met. The whole site is littered with lazy, random, and long winded OP's started by new accounts who then disappear, and never interact in the thread they started.

    Actually starting to believe this.


  • #40
    SaintLeibowitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 163 ✭✭SaintLeibowitz


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    nice stealth edit to cover your insults

    blocking someone doesnt stop the phine ringing on the callers side. you wouldnt know. i have acidentally blocked a few people with a new phone i had a few years ago. they didnt know ,just couldnt get through.
    lots of people dont answer new number

    What insult did I write?

    If someone is not answering their phone to you, is not responding to texts. You'd have be pretty dumb not to get the message.


  • #41
    Star02
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭Star02


    Hoboo wrote: »
    Since when do the gardai text people? Is this new, or complete horse****?

    Oh how I wish it was.


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  • #42
    Star02
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭Star02


    the_pen_turner wrote: »

    There us nothing in you OP to suggest he knew you blocked him and didn't want contact.

    You still havnt answered whether you asked him what he wants he might have a genuine reason to contact you. If not then tell him to leave you alone

    He knows I have him blocked. When I first blocked him 5 years ago I got a text message from a different number all in capitals (obviously screaming through the phone) berating me for blocking me. He was livid he didnt have any control over me anymore. And also if you read the first few posts to this thread before all the trolls came along accusing myself of being a troll, it was suggested that I do not engage directly with him and deal with it through the Guards. Which sounds like sound advice to me.


  • #43
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Star02 wrote: »
    He knows I have him blocked. When I first blocked him 5 years ago I got a text message from a different number all in capitals (obviously screaming through the phone) berating me for blocking me. He was livid he didnt have any control over me anymore. And also if you read the first few posts to this thread before all the trolls came along accusing myself of being a troll, it was suggested that I do not engage directly with him and deal with it through the Guards. Which sounds like sound advice to me.
    Fair enough . A lit of further info has been posted after you op.


  • #44
    Batgurl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Batgurl


    AulWan wrote: »
    Batgurl, why do you have to turn every thread into a point scoring exercise? And that link refers to the UK.

    Look, the Garda acted rashly. Confirming the OPs ex as the owner of the number, when no crime has been committed, is a breach of his personal data.

    Making a phone call , is not a crime. Its also possible the calls could have been made by someone else with access to his phone - e.g. his girlfriend.

    Besides, according to the OP already knew he owned the phone number - she claims he'd been texting about stuff on her facebook. So there was no need for the Garda to confirm anything. So something doesn't quite add up with her story either.

    Starting to believe this is just another attention seeking troll post.

    Have at it.

    Posters here seem to be defending a man the OP says was (and possibly still is) a paedophile and drug dealer.

    I am reassuring the OP (and anyone who reads this thread in future) that persuing this possible harassment through the Garda is the correct, right and legal channel.

    I’ve demonstrated how GDPR doesn’t apply. If you can prove how it legally does, please do share. I’m fairly sure the guards know what they legally can and can’t do better than randoms on the internet.

    OP, I thought we had entered a new era where victim-shaming and making people prove they have been victims was a thing of the past, but it appears sadly to still be alive and well. I hope you don’t let the opinions of some sad, narrow-minded individuals deter you. You have done nothing wrong here. Even if it’s a coincidence the chap has called you repeatedly, there is no harm having it recorded with the guards.


  • #45
    AulWan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    Right so, that means I can pick any unknown number that calls my phone, go to the Gardai with it and they can text me back with the identity of the person who owns the phone number? Are you for real?

    And you seriously think that is GDPR compliant? You already stated you had a rudimentary understanding of GDPR, then posted a link to a UK site. There is no "investigation of a crime" here as no crime has been committed. Ringing someone's phone is not a crime.

    Batgurl, I'm putting you on my ignore list, please return the favour and do the same.

    OP, relax. You've reported your concern to the Gardai, (albeit, what appears to be a very unprofessional one) so let them do the rest.


  • #46
    Batgurl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Batgurl


    AulWan wrote: »
    Right so, that means I can pick any unknown number that calls my phone, go to the Gardai with it and they can text me back with the identity of the person who owns the phone number? Are you for real?

    And you seriously think that is GDPR compliant? You already stated you had a rudimentary understanding of GDPR, then posted a link to a UK site. There is no "investigation of a crime" here as no crime has been committed. Ringing someone's phone is not a crime.

    Batgurl, I'm putting you on my ignore list, please return the favour and do the same.

    OP, relax. You've reported your concern to the Gardai, (albeit, what appears to be a very unprofessional one) so let them do the rest.

    If you go to the guards with a single missed call and try to claim harrassment, you’ll probably not get very far.

    But there were numerous calls, enough for the OP to feel harassed and to go to the guards. Clearly they had enough of a case for the guards to take it seriously and investigate. Since McCabe, AGS have procedures they must follow for these things, including data and information sharing.

    And GDPR is a EU directive right. So content hosted on a UK site, which relates to this EU legislation, is still applicable here.

    I’m not sure why you are taking this so personally. I genuinely have no issue with you. I don’t agree with the advice you have given the OP, and am just as entitled to share my opinion and advice with them as you are.


  • #47
    Leilak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭Leilak


    I think you are still in love with him. end of....


  • #48
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Batgurl wrote: »
    Posters here seem to be defending a manwho is defending him the OP says was (and possibly still is) a paedophile and drug dealerwe dont know what age the man in question is or the nature of the texts.

    I am reassuring the OP (and anyone who reads this thread in future) that persuing this possible harassment through the Garda is the correct, right and legal channel.

    I’ve demonstrated how GDPR doesn’t apply. If you can prove how it legally does, please do share. I’m fairly sure the guards know what they legally can and can’t do better than randoms on the internet.there ahave been several cases that show that is not always the case

    OP, I thought we had entered a new era where victim-shaming and making people prove they have been victims was a thing of the pastthis is the core principle of our legal system , inocent until proven guilty. , but it appears sadly to still be alive and wellthankfully it is after all that has happened in the last few years where this hasnt always been respected. I hope you don’t let the opinions of some sad, narrow-minded individuals deter you. You have done nothing wrong herehas that been established . i dont think the op has said that she has done nothing ,. not that it would excuse it either way. Even if it’s a coincidence the chap has called you repeatedly, there is no harm having it recorded with the guards.
    .


  • #49
    Star02
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭Star02


    AulWan wrote: »
    Right so, that means I can pick any unknown number that calls my phone, go to the Gardai with it and they can text me back with the identity of the person who owns the phone number? Are you for real?
    OP, t.

    Oh lord, context is completely lost on you isnt it. Calls at ridiculous hours from the same number each night, followed by texts which read "u should ring me" and one hour later "be in your best interest". Tell me that does not sound creepy and any way threatening and I'll show you a liar.


  • #50
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Star02 wrote: »
    Oh lord, context is completely lost on you isnt it. Calls at ridiculous hours from the same number each night, followed by texts which read "u should ring me" and one hour later "be in your best interest". Tell me that does not sound creepy and any way threatening and I'll show you a liar.

    again more new information.

    that poster is not alking about your case but rather that a guarda will take a number (potential random no) and tell them who owns it. that shouldnt and probably wouldnt happen.


  • #51
    Star02
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭Star02


    Leilak wrote: »
    I think you are still in love with him. end of....

    Are you for real? The horrible yoke repulses me. (Oh and btw, stop trying to ring me its been over for a long time).


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  • #52
    Star02
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭Star02


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    again more new information.
    And? Not making it up as I go along if thats what youre clearly implying. I seriously hope you dont have a wife, sisters and/or daughters. You'll probably say you'll have all three though, and I seriously pity them with your attitude.


  • #53
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Star02 wrote: »
    And? Not making it up as I go along if thats what youre clearly implying. I seriously hope you dont have a wife, sisters and/or daughters. You'll probably say you'll have all three though, and I seriously pity them with your attitude.

    whats with your horrible attitude.

    all i said is that this is new information. which it is .. along with loads of other new info . i never said you made anything up. why would i . i dont have a wife (my gf wouldnt like that) no sisters or daughters.
    what i said about my gf having a guy ringing her is 100% true. he isnt leaving horribel stuff like you are getting but he does ring her regularly. i have tried to get her to do something about it but she wont, its a long story but she doesnt want to cause trouble for him and her conections to his family


  • #54
    Star02
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭Star02


    AulWan wrote: »
    Drip, drip, drip, drip....

    Whatever.


  • #55
    Star02
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭Star02


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    whats with your horrible attitude.

    all i said is that this is new information. which it is .. along with loads of other new info . i never said you made anything up. why would i . i dont have a wife (my gf wouldnt like that) no sisters or daughters.
    what i said about my gf having a guy ringing her is 100% true. he isnt leaving horribel stuff like you are getting but he does ring her regularly. i have tried to get her to do something about it but she wont, its a long story but she doesnt want to cause trouble for him and her conections to his family

    My horrible attitude? Excuse me for being at my wits end and as one poster put it, having to feel like I have to prove my innocence. I'd be wary of any partner such as your gf who wont get off their arse and try and nip something unsavoury like that in the bud right away like I did, that would give me suspicions.


  • #56
    LegacyUser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Leilak wrote: »
    I think you are still in love with him. end of....

    What the hell is happening to PI?? It’s turning into After Hours with the pathetic one liners and dragging threads off topic.

    People come here for proper advice, not for people to take the piss.

    OP, dis-regard these posters. They’ve been around to a few PI threads spouting nonsense.

    You’ve done what you need to do re going to the Guards. Continue to block and ignore your ex. Maybe ask the guards to pay him a visit and have a chat with him. That usually frightens most of these losers off.


  • #57
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Star02 wrote: »
    My horrible attitude? Excuse me for being at my wits end and as one poster put it, having to feel like I have to prove my innocence. I'd be wary of any partner such as your gf who wont get off their arse and try and nip something unsavoury like that in the bud right away like I did, that would give me suspicions.

    there is a back story there that i wont go into. she has stopped it for the most part but it comes in waves. its very mild really. there is a bit of a want in him and he just want a friendship more than romance.

    i do believe you. but saying i have a bad attided isnt nice. i have said nothing bad.
    there is a lot more to this situation than your op let on . we can only comment on what we read.


  • #58
    The Satanist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 693 ✭✭✭The Satanist


    Star02 wrote: »
    I am horrified that this person still has my number after all these years. I want to make it clear that I have NOT had any contact with this ex in 5 years. Once I ended it, that was it.
    Star02 wrote: »
    Long story short I ended up going to the local garda station on Christmas Eve to report a number that was ringing me every night over the last week.
    It seems odd to me that you'd go to the Gardai over a few phone calls. Why didn't you just answer the first one?


  • #59
    Star02
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭Star02


    The Satanist wrote: »
    It seems odd to me that you'd go to the Gardai over a few phone calls. Why didn't you just answer the first one?

    Over a few phone calls from an ex at stupid oclock every night? No doubt caked off his nut and thinking it would be a great idea? Yeah, Id like to hope more eejits like this are reported for this behaviour.


  • #60
    The Satanist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 693 ✭✭✭The Satanist


    Star02 wrote: »
    Over a few phone calls from an ex at stupid oclock every night? No doubt caked off his nut and thinking it would be a great idea? Yeah, Id like to hope more eejits like this are reported for this behaviour.

    At the time, you had no idea who it was though


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  • #61
    Star02
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21 ✭Star02


    The Satanist wrote: »
    At the time, you had no idea who it was though

    Indeed. No idea at all. Wouldnt answer a call from someone who only wants to ring at stupid oclock in the morning every night. Then found out who it was thanks to AGS.


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