The real problem with Housing in Ireland

Calhoun wrote: »

Indeed I would say this is the biggest roadblock to social housing, not just the eviction of tenants not paying but also the lack of control over their own housing stock.

To ensure the social housing is getting best bang for it's buck people should be moved around based upon need.and within reason. Mainly what I am pointing at is an older couple living in a family home, when there are families in need.

Already exists

DCC & the Iveagh Trust redeveloped Annamore Court in Ballyfermot Dublin. Its a small site of 70 x 1 bed flats and the elderly can apply.

The flats are small but extremely modern. Activities rooms are available for whatever the residents want to meet up for.

There is a full time caretaker on site to look after any maintenance issues.

And it had the desired results of freeing up family homes in the area.

A rare success story

Eric Cartman wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/family-of-eight-to-endure-a-fourth-homeless-christmas-1.4124143?mode=amp

Margaret cash round 2, no personal responsibility, complete gouging for a free gaf.

The second-floor, three-bedroom apartment is one of 65 in the complex accommodating homeless families. Colleen and John pay €175 a fortnight in rent.

“They just aren’t building enough four-beds.” She says the council should buy larger houses to let to larger families like hers effectively stuck in homelessness.

The family’s local TD and Sinn Féin’s spokesman on housing, Eoin Ó Broin, agrees.




WTF are they giving out about!???


How is this considered homeless ffs.

X111111111111 wrote: »

I personally know this family and you are so far off the mark it's not even funny. But hey keep stereotyping everyone and putting them into your favorite little box if it makes you happy. :rolleyes:

Yeah those kids just popped out themselves but somebody else I.e. the taxpayer needs to pay for them.

People pay a lot of tax in Ireland and they are entitled to know where it goes.

Yurt! wrote: »

People are entitled to have as many or as few children as they please. One of the liberties we enjoy in a free society. Neo-Thatcherites can judge away, we don't have a Chinese Communist Party one child system.

So you're ok with taxpayers money being used to rear all these children (badly in most cases)?...and for this cycle to continue?

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Margaret cashs family would be a family unit if the justice system didnt keep taking daddy away.
“Sold from under them” if the landlord was making money he wouldnt have sold or the bank may have taken it, dont put blame on him. They have a 3 bed apartment in dublin and are not homeless, theyve been on the housing list for over a decade and with that many kids it would be a miracle if they hadnt already been offered and refused a property. This is one of multiple stories about them campaigning fof 4 bed social houses so its clear what the target is.

The apartment doesnt have a back garden for horses so no use...

I'm sure X11111....can give us some insight into how many homes they have been offered and refused( but probably won't).

Yurt! wrote: »

Peace to all men, Christmas Eve and boards is still stack full of people that want to spend their down time ranting about people on the housing list. I bet Christmas dinner will be a mad laugh in your house.

And you’re here countering that point of view:)

Have you nothing better to do:)

i dont get this idea that in ireland each person somehow is entitetled to own home, specially in places like capital, in most europe people rent flats some for life, and it works out ok, but in Ireland attitude is somehow people even those who litterally never worked in their life are entitetled by tax payers to have them housed.


there isnt shortage of houses, maybe bitter lack of peoples expectations, as to what they should be entitled and how it should be earned.


until social issues are tackled and simple encouragement from goverment for companies to be attrated to more spots then few major hubs where it creates massive demand and other issues, theres tons of different aspects but, solution isnt to build as many houses and just give them to people- as long term given current criteria and benefit system it will just encourage more people to rely on state, when abled bodied people cant save, or work, one should ask is the issue really housing - or welfare system that basically rewards those in many cases that need it least. we cant all own plush houses costing 4-600k yet some manage to get it free. Not bashing those unfortunate, but theres bigger plays that shape views of people in this country then simple lack of oh no theres not enough houses.

Yurt! wrote: »

You missed the part of the article where it's noted that the father is a taxpaying worker.

Would you like to hazard a guess at his paye deductions from his pay cheque? He is a courier so most likely on a little above minimum wage. My guess is 3/5 of f#$k all compared to what he receives from the government.
We have to get past this idea that it's ok for people to contribute a tiny but to society while receiving multiples in return.

Maewyn Succat wrote: »

There's a huge difference between my parents working all their lives, paying for their own house, paying tax on their earnings and then getting a little bit of children's allowance when they had children to the handouts some of these people get from the government.

Both parents not working in Mags case.

So the tax payer funds every single thing in the parents and kids lives.

Everything.

It’s an absolute joke.

Unequal society is correct.

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

1 million working people in Ireland pay no income tax.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/more-than-1-million-workers-will-not-pay-income-tax-this-year-1.3544848%3fmode=amp

totally ridiculous! but not a patch on the welfare **** show, I'd be up for USC abolition... Of course its not entirely responsible, BUT it would be better for the economy and workers and competitiveness, than simply throwing Half the money at welfare increases and the other at income tax cuts. If a new party here were formed, first stop would be USC abolition as far as I am concerned!

" but how do you pay for it" no welfare increases for several years, simple. Its already an obscene welfare spend, the way the marginal rate of tax is obscene!