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Finished drinking vodka at 5am. Can I drive now?

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  • Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Never drink and drive, rarely even drink, but I think there is a bit of hysteria emerging about drunk driving. Of course driving while drunk is dangerous, but I don’t really believe having a pint and then driving home is dangerous. Not for nearly all males anyway. Having a few (3-4) and driving after seven hours sleep isn’t dangerous either, most people who take a drink would know that also.


  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Seathrun66 wrote: »


    Two simple questions:

    You have any criticism of the morning drunk drivers that those people last year?

    If drink was the actual cause then yes but there are many other causes to be equally or more crucial off.
    Seathrun66 wrote: »
    You also wouldn't criticise a morning drunk driver after hitting a child you knew?

    I wouldn’t really care what the cause was to be honest I’d be critical of them regardless if it was their fault. Do you think it’s any consultation that someone was killed and drink wasn’t involved?

    Also drunk driving is a very different thing than skirting around the limit which is the case for most morning drivers. So if an actual drink driver caused a death it’s obviously someone to be very critical about.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Never drink and drive, rarely even drink, but I think there is a bit of hysteria emerging about drunk driving. Of course driving while drunk is dangerous, but I don’t really believe having a pint and then driving home is dangerous. Not for nearly all males anyway. Having a few (3-4) and driving after seven hours sleep isn’t dangerous either, most people who take a drink would know that also.

    One pint may put you over the limit if you drive straight away and could slightly impair your alertness.

    3/4 pints and then seven hours sleep and you're almost certainly under the limit.

    The issue here is people having 2-4 pints then driving home that evening or 8-12 pints then thinking they're safe the following morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,358 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Off the top of my head the radio campaign says 10% of road deaths due to alcohol happen between 7am and 11am the morning after (open to correction on this)

    Bearing this in mind why is there such a disproportionate amount of checks in the morning?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If drink was the actual cause then yes but there are many other causes to be equally or more crucial off.



    I wouldn’t really care what the cause was to be honest I’d be critical of them regardless if it was their fault. Do you think it’s any consultation that someone was killed and drink wasn’t involved?

    Also drunk driving is a very different thing than skirting around the limit which is the case for most morning drivers. So if an actual drink driver caused a death it’s obviously someone to be very critical about.

    RSA categorically said 11% of fatalities caused by morning drivers. Whatever the circumstances of the crash someone over the limit will be held to blame. Normal reaction speeds just won't be present.

    If a drunk driver kills a child in the morning then it's going to be their fault. Why not lessen the chances of that happening - not driving after a big session the night before, not driving alone without a full licence, not driving tired or using a mobile while at the wheel.

    I'm not a paragon of virtue. I also don't agree with the justice system on everything but I do with regards to people driving a lethal weapon when they're a potential risk.


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  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Seathrun66 wrote: »
    RSA categorically said 11% of fatalities caused by morning drivers. Whatever the circumstances of the crash someone over the limit will be held to blame. Normal reaction speeds just won't be present.

    If a drunk driver kills a child in the morning then it's going to be their fault. Why not lessen the chances of that happening - not driving after a big session the night before, not driving alone without a full licence, not driving tired or using a mobile while at the wheel.

    I'm not a paragon of virtue. I also don't agree with the justice system on everything but I do with regards to people driving a lethal weapon when they're a potential risk.

    You are being badly fooled by the RSAs wording and very careful construction of sentences, which is their intention of course. Look not everyone can see through them as easy as I can but when people are clearly shown what their are doing and still ignore it we know their is either an agenda or an inability to understand at play.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You are being badly fooled by the RSAs wording and very careful construction of sentences, which is their intention of course. Look not everyone can see through them as easy as I can but when people are clearly shown what their are doing and still ignore it we know their is either an agenda or an inability to understand at play.

    Feel free to continue ignoring the morning after drunk-driving deaths in 2018. And 2019. What will it take to stop you driving over the limit in the morning?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Get two Curry’s into you and drink a liter of 7up and liter of Diet Pepsi before you attempt the drive.

    Yeah Science, bitch


  • Posts: 15,055 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    HBC08 wrote: »
    Off the top of my head the radio campaign says 10% of road deaths due to alcohol happen between 7am and 11am the morning after (open to correction on this)

    Bearing this in mind why is there such a disproportionate amount of checks in the morning?


    Because its easier to arrest the sober person on the way to work, than it is to arrest a person that might actually be drunk, at night.


    Gardai showed themselves in a very poor light ('revenue enforcers' rather than 'police service') when they started pulling people the following morning and nailing them for being marginally over the limit, even though the person would be completely safe to drive.




    There's a nonsense hysteria that if you have a single drink and get into the car, you're a murdering psychopath, despite the fact you are likely 100% grand and any accident that may happen would likely have happened anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    Lads ye aren't sober after a sleep if there's still alcohol in your system. You just think you're sober because you've been asleep and your sense of normal is off. Have you never had a heavy night, woke up early the next day to feel fine and then realise a few hours later that you were still hammered when you woke up and you still have a hangover to get through?


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  • Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Seathrun66 wrote: »
    One pint may put you over the limit if you drive straight away and could slightly impair your alertness.

    3/4 pints and then seven hours sleep and you're almost certainly under the limit.

    The issue here is people having 2-4 pints then driving home that evening or 8-12 pints then thinking they're safe the following morning.




    Its a very rare man who would be impacted by one pint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,703 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    We all hear the horror stories about what drink drivers have done. Killed people and ruined families.
    Personally I know that tiredness can be as bad as drink for impairment but we're not obliged to use tacographs in our cars !.
    Anyway I think the legal limit is too low .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,703 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Any word from the OP did he/she make it home ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Higgins5473


    cjmc wrote: »
    Any word from the OP did he/she make it home ?

    no. dead apparently. good night had by him apparently. subsequent wake was good too. few lads died also on the way home from the wake. nothing to do with drink apparently, driver just trying unwrap a hot chicken fillet roll and was distracted. RIP all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    how is this thread still going


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    wakka12 wrote: »
    how is this thread still going

    No idea. Time to make an exit I think. Still, it's been pretty informative. Plenty of disagreement but pretty decently handled by all. Thanks for the input people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,703 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    no. dead apparently. good night had by him apparently. subsequent wake was good too. few lads died also on the way home from the wake. nothing to do with drink apparently, driver just trying unwrap a hot chicken fillet roll and was distracted. RIP all.
    Pure ould waternotsoda. Heard his name on the obituaries but couldn't believe it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Drifter50


    You honestly seem to think that nobody else here is from a rural area. This on a message-board for a country where a third of the population lives rurally. Drink-driving happens rurally but you’re the one who is deluded if you think that drink-driving is widely accepted in rural areas. It’s taboo everywhere now and rightfully.

    You must live a quite sheltered life. There are 3 pubs in my village, car parks are quite busy, people driving to and from the pub. Nobody`s falling around, quick couple of snifters and on they go. It certainly is not taboo by any chalk


  • Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It’s not taboo in rural areas among people who might do it, guys who frequent relatively isolated pubs and for whom that is an important part of their social life. Among the wider rural population it is not commonplace anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭Waternotsoda


    Thanks for the replies, allot of information to digest.

    I have now decided it is safe for me to get behind the wheel of my car and drive home.

    Everyone be safe over the Christmas.

    Merry Christmas & Slán abhaile.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭minikin


    Hope your driving reaction time is quicker than your thread reaction time :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Drifter50 wrote: »
    You must live a quite sheltered life. There are 3 pubs in my village, car parks are quite busy, people driving to and from the pub. Nobody`s falling around, quick couple of snifters and on they go. It certainly is not taboo by any chalk

    No, I haven’t. What does that even mean? Yeah, I went to school with some troglodytes who now drink drive in my rural home place. Believe me, nobody wants to be like them. Of course the people who drink drive don’t have a problem with it. That’s part of the whole drink-driving extravaganza.

    Seriously, lads. Rural Ireland isn’t some mysterious place that few people have a clue about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    You are being badly fooled by the RSAs wording and very careful construction of sentences, which is their intention of course. Look not everyone can see through them as easy as I can but when people are clearly shown what their are doing and still ignore it we know their is either an agenda or an inability to understand at play.
    Yeah the RSA's sinister "agenda" of road safety. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Drifter50


    No, I haven’t. What does that even mean? Yeah, I went to school with some troglodytes who now drink drive in my rural home place. Believe me, nobody wants to be like them. Of course the people who drink drive don’t have a problem with it. That’s part of the whole drink-driving extravaganza.

    Seriously, lads. Rural Ireland isn’t some mysterious place that few people have a clue about.

    What on earth do you mean, life in Rural Ireland is broadly known about and definitely not inhabited by troglodytes. Cop yourself on


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭nthclare


    I'd say its ok to go home now op :)


  • Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Get the feeling the RSA really over egg things around driving the day after drinking, which hurts their credibility. If people feel they are overzealous they are less likely to take their advice seriously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Drifter50 wrote: »
    What on earth do you mean, life in Rural Ireland is broadly known about and definitely not inhabited by troglodytes. Cop yourself on

    The people who drink-drive most certainly are troglodytes.
    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Yeah the RSA's sinister "agenda" of road safety. :D

    I know, the dastards. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,406 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    The people who drink-drive most certainly are troglodytes.



    I know, the dastards. :D

    No their not, don't be a sp***ic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭DelBoy Trotter




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭sundodger5


    Just to put some science into the original question.
    One on mine was out last night. Home at 4.15am she reckons 10 drinks.
    Up since 11am and has eaten this morning.
    At 2pm i got the breathalyser out just to see.
    She blew a .70 BAC. Legal limit is .50 BAC afaik.
    Everyone pcocesses alcohol at different rates but this may give people an idea as to how long you may have to wait based on a real life example.


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