Runner that slapped reporters ass, is facing criminal charges

16-12-2019 01:56PM

Quadrature40 wrote: »

Should a women be put on the register sex offenders list if she kicks a man in the balls?

Only if Death Row is full.

gmisk · 16-12-2019 01:57PM

Quadrature40 wrote: »

Why are you gain stating the obvious, 99% of people know that it's not acceptable to slap people on the ass.

I don't know where you get your 99 percent figure from? Not this thread anyway...it's bants and craic...according to quite a few people.

16-12-2019 01:57PM

Sarahdunners wrote: »

How we have talked about women in ireland had been incredibly disrespectful.

How you talk about men is disrespectful. How you talk about women is even more so.

Sarahdunners wrote: »

I have heard in various scenarios, men often talking about women like women are animals, and with the most possible disrespect that you could imagine.

I have heard men say:

"I'd **** her" "I'd do her". This statment always implies that it does not matter what the woman wants, because he would "do her".

Talking about women's tits and ass.

"I'd smash her"

"I'd ride her in the grand national" - calling women an animal"

Yes, I have spoken about women like that. There are plenty of women I would like to "do". Some women also talk about men like that, some in a joking fashion, some in an insulting fashion.. Because they don't hate men like you do.

Sarahdunners wrote: »

I have heard men brag about having sex with women and then laugh at her afterwards about being loose

E.g it was like o 'connell street.

Do you think a woman has never spoken disparagingly about the size of a man's penis?

Sarahdunners wrote: »

Because it is not enough to have sex with a woman - you have to humiliate her afterwards to feel the true power over her.

Or, you know, some people are not as offended about everything as you are. True power? Ask my hole.

Sarahdunners wrote: »

I have walked into a work setting where men were talking about who was their ideal "celebrity ****".
One man said, and laughed, "I would choose (a tv presenter with 8 kids) and if she was too loose in the fanny, Id stick it straight up her arse, hahahah, no harm done, hahahah."

Are there no men you fantasise about? I have often fantasised about celebs, especially when I was younger. It was Diane Youdale or "Jet from Gladiators" as she went by. I would have done unspeakable things to her. What harm is that?

Sarahdunners wrote: »

The first porn that I was ever shown. I was 18 in college and one of the guys on the course showed me a porn clip on the computer. He said " look at this" so I didn't know what it was until I looked at it. It was a naked woman inserting a large metal kitchen instrument into her vagina. She was in pain. He laughed at me.

So? Your attitude towards porn is nothing to do with anything.

Sarahdunners wrote: »

We have had too much disrespect of women in this country, for way too long. You all know this.

Times have to change

I agree in a way. I think people like you disrespect the women in this country by thinking that your ****ty experiences and your ****ty attitude towards men represent a whole gender and your insistence in seeing all women as victims like yourself is highly disrespectful.

You are talking out of your arse.

Women (not all women) can be just as bad as men (not all men) when referring to sexual conquests, describing body parts, appearance, looks etc.

threeball · 16-12-2019 01:59PM

Quadrature40 wrote: »

Why are you gain stating the obvious, 99% of people know that it's not acceptable to slap people on the ass.

When you have an extreme view the only way to justify it is by ignoring the middle ground and claiming others are advocating doing nothing

IAMAMORON · 16-12-2019 02:03PM

Quadrature40 wrote: »

Only IAMAMORON believes it is acceptable to slap someone on the ass, correct me if I'm wrong.

I do, but only if it is done in a playful way.

I would not condone it if it was being done to hurt someone or to deliberately make them feel uncomfortable or something more sinister.

But a little slap of the arse never hurt anyone. That is the truth of it.

The entire thread has just become a battle ground for feminist nonsense and misandry.

16-12-2019 02:14PM

threeball wrote: »

Show me one post where anyone said he was ok to hit her. The argument is does it qualify as sexual assault

There's one arsehole (excuse the pun) who says he'll go on slapping women's bums. Quite a few think it's somewhat acceptable from what I've read.

I don't think it's acceptable to grab, slap or touch anyone's behind whom you've never spoken or interacted with. It's troglodyte stuff.

Having said that, I also don't necessarily think that people who have done it are malicious sex offenders. Some are just absolute thicks. There are shades of grey in law and in society in general. Some would do well to remember that.

threeball · 16-12-2019 02:15PM

Quadrature40 wrote: »

Who is justifying an extreme view? I'm not sure what your saying.

The guy you were responding to

Ironicname · 16-12-2019 02:16PM

Sarahdunners wrote:

I have felt humiliated and degraded in many scenarios.

I don't doubt that for a second.

I'd wager scenarios where you voice your opinion are especially humiliating.

Ironicname · 16-12-2019 02:19PM

Omackeral wrote:

There are shades of grey in law and in society in general. Some would do well to remember that.

Apparently out of all the shades where spanking is allowed, it comes in at number 50.

threeball · 16-12-2019 02:19PM

Omackeral wrote: »

There's one arsehole (excuse the pun) who says he'll go on slapping women's bums. Quite a few think it's somewhat acceptable from what I've read.

I don't think it's acceptable to grab, slap or touch anyone's behind whom you've never spoken or interacted with. It's troglodyte stuff.

Having said that, I also don't necessarily think that people who have done it are malicious sex offenders. Some are just absolute thicks. There are shades of grey in law and in society in general. Some would do well to remember that.

Neither do I. Does it make you a sex offender, in my view a slap certainly doesn't. Grabbing someone and you're getting into a different level of contact.

The main issue is that people want to push the relatively harmless into the same bracket as the severe thereby diluting the seriousness of actual sexual assault.

16-12-2019 02:22PM

Sarahdunners wrote: »

How we have talked about women in ireland has been disrespectful...

...We have had too much disrespect of women in this country, for way too long. You all know this.

Times have to change

Can you kindly get a grip? What's this "we"? Is it the same "we" that has had two female presidents leading this very country in recent times?

"You all know this". How arrogant. How presumptuous. It's this type of talk in such absolutes that has had plenty switch off from your points on here.

kg703 · 16-12-2019 02:22PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I do, but only if it is done in a playful way.

I would not condone it if it was being done to hurt someone or to deliberately make them feel uncomfortable or something more sinister.

But a little slap of the arse never hurt anyone. That is the truth of it.

The entire thread has just become a battle ground for feminist nonsense and misandry.

It’s not feminist nonsense. Why do you think you are entitled to put your hands on someone? Women don’t like being slapped on the arse by strange men it’s creepy and disgusting. A kick to the nuts is an acceptable response to someone grabbing or slapping my arse so keep that in mind before you do that to someone.

Only my husband and close friends can participate in arse slapping

IAMAMORON · 16-12-2019 02:29PM

kg703 wrote: »

It’s not feminist nonsense. Why do you think you are entitled to put your hands on someone? Women don’t like being slapped on the arse by strange men it’s creepy and disgusting. A kick to the nuts is an acceptable response to someone grabbing or slapping my arse so keep that in mind before you do that to someone.

Only my husband and close friends can participate in arse slapping

I never said anything about strangers in fairness.

But I have often slapped the arse of someone I am friendly or familiar with, men and women, cousins and Aunties ( believe) , it is just a bit of fun and I am not sexually assaulting them.

I am neither stupid enough to slap a colleagues arse or a for example someone on the bus or luas. That would be madness.

But I know the difference between politely and innocently slapping someone's arse and doing it in a more sinister fashion.

This needs to be noted. I am not some sort of sexual deviant ( debateable) just because I am condoning a bit of arse slapping. Please give me that much.

16-12-2019 02:29PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I do, but only if it is done in a playful way.

But a little slap of the arse never hurt anyone. That is the truth of it.

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I just think you are a troll now Sarah Dunners. It is actually very disrespectful, especially to victims of sexual crimes.

It's gas. I agree that Sarah Dunners (who I feel I've read on here before btw) is ridiculous but at the same time I find your outlook abhorrent in that you think it's alright to go around slapping women on the arse.

Two opposite ends of the spectrum and yet both I disagree with.

16-12-2019 02:33PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I never said anything about strangers in fairness.

But I have often slapped the arse of someone I am friendly or familiar with, men and women, cousins and Aunties ( believe) , it is just a bit of fun and I am not sexually assaulting them.

This needs to be noted. I am not some sort of sexual deviant ( debateable) just because I am condoning a bit of arse slapping. Please give me that much.

I might have missed before where you've said all this. If it's only people you know and are familiar with, I'll take back what I said. I just recall you saying you'll continue to slap women on the arse and that "a little slap on the bum never hurt anyone". Kinda mixed messages.

IAMAMORON · 16-12-2019 02:34PM

Omackeral wrote: »

It's gas. I agree that Sarah Dunners (who I feel I've read on here before btw) is ridiculous but at the same time I find your outlook abhorrent in that you think it's alright to go around slapping women on the arse.

Two opposite ends of the spectrum and yet both I disagree with.

I don't go around slapping anyone's ass. I would always be familiar with the person and I certainly would trust them.

The underlying point I am trying to make is that a slap on the arse is more often than not a casual and Cheeky :P gesture. It is not a sexual assault.

I am not " an arsehole " either, it is not fair to call me one. Just saying.

threeball · 16-12-2019 02:35PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Can you kindly get a grip? What's this "we"? Is it the same "we" that has had two female presidents leading this very country in recent times?

"You all know this". How arrogant. How presumptuous. It's this type of talk in such absolutes that has had plenty switch off from your points on here.

This is the point we have being trying to make and failing because there are some very extreme views on what punishment this guy should get.

Sarah would have him castrated, actually she'd probably have us all castrated.

jimgoose · 16-12-2019 02:37PM

Sarahdunners wrote: »

How we have talked about women in ireland...

Have you ever heard "I wouldn't ride her into battle!"? That's a good one. :pac:

Reviews and Books Galore · 16-12-2019 02:39PM

gmisk wrote: »

Well thats in the eye of the beholder I guess

Slapping balls would more likely do serious damage hence why I think it would be assault

I'm sorry, but that's just silly. The balls are primarily sexual organs even more so than the penis and far more so than the butt.

How about a slap to the balls which I remember a lot of young girls doing in high school?

Edit: Also it is interesting that there is so little violent rape that we have to broaden the definition of sex crimes to keep up the narrative tbh.

I mean, we actually have groups fudging number to say that any sex act without a specific yes is rape. I mean it really is absurd.

You ask to kiss a woman she says yes, you touch her hair she says yes, you ask to touch her boobs she moans, you touch them and now you can be charged with rape in some countries.

When are women going to start standing up for men and when are men going to stand up for themselves?

kg703 · 16-12-2019 02:45PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I never said anything about strangers in fairness.

But I have often slapped the arse of someone I am friendly or familiar with, men and women, cousins and Aunties ( believe) , it is just a bit of fun and I am not sexually assaulting them.

I am neither stupid enough to slap a colleagues arse or a for example someone on the bus or luas. That would be madness.

But I know the difference between politely and innocently slapping someone's arse and doing it in a more sinister fashion.

This needs to be noted. I am not some sort of sexual deviant ( debateable) just because I am condoning a bit of arse slapping. Please give me that much.

Haha then it’s fine if it’s family or friends who are ok with that kind of thing, my husbands granny is forever slapping us all on the arse. I thought you meant strangers all is forgiven.

El_Duderino 09 · 16-12-2019 02:48PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

It saddens me that the days of slapping and tickling are over.

" slap and tickle is dead and gone "

Right. Amongst non consenting people it's dead and gone. People who consent can do whatever they want together.

jimgoose · 16-12-2019 02:51PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Right. Amongst non consenting people it's dead and gone. People who consent can do whatever they want together.

It's been my experience that many women actually rather like having their arses smacked and even squeezed, but are very particular about who does it.

Reviews and Books Galore · 16-12-2019 02:52PM

Ironicname wrote: »

I don't doubt that for a second.

I'd wager scenarios where you voice your opinion are especially humiliating.

Okay, irregardles of everything else, that's a great reply.

Reviews and Books Galore · 16-12-2019 02:54PM

Penn wrote: »

I think it'd be assault because the intent in kicking a man in the balls is to hurt them, whereas the intent in slapping a woman on the arse has sexual overtones to it. He wasn't trying to slap her on the back or shoulder as he claimed, the only way you hit the arse like that is if you're aiming for it, and he was doing so for his own pleasure or he thought it'd be funny. But ultimately slapping a woman on the arse is has enough sexual connotations to it that kicking a man in the balls doesn't.

Either way, he slapped a woman on the arse. He'll not get jail time, probably just a fine or a few hours community service or something. He did slap her on the arse though and he chose to do so, so the consequences are his bear regardless of what some people's opinion of the woman are.

Why isn't sexual? why are you putting sexual overtones on teh man vs the woman?

jimgoose · 16-12-2019 02:55PM

Reviews and Books Galore wrote: »

Why isn't sexual? why are you putting sexual overtones on teh man vs the woman?

Are you seriously suggesting that a hoof to the veg is ever a "playful", sexual gesture? And that a smack on the arse isn't?? :pac:

El_Duderino 09 · 16-12-2019 02:56PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I would be interested to see where it says that in the law. Also, what is the legal definition of necessary?

Genuinely.

I think there are plenty of places where laws conflict in the strictest sense. But changing a nappy is normal duty of someone in charge of a baby, so changing a nappy in the normal way is just classed as normal care for a child even though it might well involve touching the child's genitals as part of normal cleaning.

I'm.not a legal expert so maybe someone will clear it up.

On any case I don't think the guy was fulfilling any kind of duty when he slapped her arse. He was just slapping her arse.

Reviews and Books Galore · 16-12-2019 02:56PM

kg703 wrote: »

It’s not feminist nonsense. Why do you think you are entitled to put your hands on someone? Women don’t like being slapped on the arse by strange men it’s creepy and disgusting. A kick to the nuts is an acceptable response to someone grabbing or slapping my arse so keep that in mind before you do that to someone.

Only my husband and close friends can participate in arse slapping

Okay, so the next time a woman touches me in a way I don't like, I am going to stamp on her uterus.

jimgoose · 16-12-2019 02:58PM

kg703 wrote: »

...A kick to the nuts is an acceptable response to someone grabbing or slapping my arse...

No, it isn't. It is a completely disproportionate response as well as being very illegal.

Reviews and Books Galore · 16-12-2019 02:58PM

jimgoose wrote: »

Are you seriously suggesting that a hoof to the veg is ever a "playful", sexual gesture? And that a smack on the arse isn't?? :pac:

Actually, it kind of was in high school.

Penn · 16-12-2019 03:01PM

Reviews and Books Galore wrote: »

Why isn't sexual? why are you putting sexual overtones on teh man vs the woman?

Man kicking woman in crotch and woman kicking man in crotch = No difference

Man slapping woman's arse and woman slapping man's arse = No difference

Man slapping woman's arse and woman kicking man in crotch = Difference. It's a different action generally for a different reason with a different intent. It's a complete false equivalency.

Runner that slapped reporters ass, is facing criminal charges

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