Runner that slapped reporters ass, is facing criminal charges

Galwayguy35 · 15-12-2019 12:02PM

Sarahdunners wrote: »

I think that there used to be a prevailing attitude in MEN of
:

"We are allowed to grab women wherever we want. "

I would like you to imagine being the smaller gender in the world, and going out and being groped and mauled by someone twice the size of you? It is very scary.

Women are not taking that **** anymore. I saw a thread on boards.ie - where a woman said that her elderly neighbour groped her bum, and she sucessfully filed sexual assault charges against him.

I am so proud thet women are getting stronger , and are standing up for themselves.

Some men you mean, don't lump us all into that category.

blade1 · 15-12-2019 12:02PM

Sarahdunners wrote: »

No it is not.

Bum and vagina are both intimate parts of a person's body

No way.
You're discrediting victims of sexual assault if you think that imo.

El_Duderino 09 · 15-12-2019 12:04PM

Treasure Sticky Weirdness wrote: »

She thinks women have the right to go about their jobs without being harassed.

Of course they do, but it's also the case that many reporters have been shot, maimed by landmines, captured and beaten by gangs, kidnapped and tortured by terrorists, or jailed by repressive governments. James Foley, Daniel Pearl, and others have been decapitated. Ireland's own Veronica Guerin was murdered. Bulgarian journalist Viktoria Marinova was raped and murdered last year after investigating alleged fraud involving EU funds. All in the course of doing their jobs.

For this woman to be bleating that a mere slap on the ass from a marathon runner "stole her power" is an embarrassment to the many brave journalists who risk their lives daily in the course of their jobs.

If she said she was murdered, kidnapped, beaten etc. then it would be embarrassing. She didn't say any of that. She just commented on what actually happened to her. So I really think you're wrong. Who made the rule that a journalist has to be beaten and murdered before they can complain about bad treatment?

Pawwed Rig · 15-12-2019 12:04PM

I remember an old girlfriend got a spank on the bum in a nightclub one time. She was a bit peeved and I gave the guy a good talking to at the time.

Hopefully the guy thought twice before he did it again

Charges? GTFO

meeeeh · 15-12-2019 12:05PM

Next what about starving children...

So unless you get killed doing your job you should just take it and smile politely. Not to mention the guy is not in prison and considering the conviction rates on sexual assaults he has nothing to worry about.

15-12-2019 12:10PM

meeeeh wrote: »

Next what about starving children...

So unless you get killed doing your job you should just take it and smile politely. Not to mention the guy is not in prison and considering the conviction rates on sexual assaults he has nothing to worry about.

Not what was said.

But maybe have a bit of perspective. If you think a prison sentence is warranted for this, then I disagree with you.

Would you be more offended or want a similar full force of the law penalty if someone slapped you across the face? Or is a bum slap worse?

Sarahdunners · 15-12-2019 12:18PM

blade1 wrote: »

No way.
You're discrediting victims of sexual assault if you think that imo.

How am I discrediting victims of sexual assault, when grabbing a bum is on the scale of sexual assaults?

It the USA grabbing a bum- is called sexual battery.
I have also seen a woman charge a man with sexual assault in Ireland - for him grabbing her bum.

Touching a vagina is worse for sure, but they are both in the scale if sexual assaults

MayoAreMagic · 15-12-2019 12:19PM

Sarahdunners wrote: »

I think that there used to be a prevailing attitude in MEN of
:

"We are allowed to grab women wherever we want. "

I would like you to imagine being the smaller gender in the world, and going out and being groped and mauled by someone twice the size of you? It is very scary.

Women are not taking that **** anymore. I saw a thread on boards.ie - where a woman said that her elderly neighbour groped her bum, and she sucessfully filed sexual assault charges against him.

I am so proud thet women are getting stronger , and are standing up for themselves.

When was this a prevailing attitude in men?

Where was anyone mauled in this scenario? Or intimidating? You seem to be trying to include details akin to a serious sexual assault, that simply arent there. Why?

Re the old man, did she have to file a sexual charge against him to show him she isnt taking it though? Obviously you havent provided a huge amount of detail on that but Im assuming an old man put a hand on her backside for a second or two? To my mind, a charge in that scenario is overkill. Just because you can do something, doesnt make it the right course of action.

Where does that stop? Does it have to be physical touch? What if a girl/boy really fancies someone who doesnt return their affections, and they haunt them a bit with texts and in a social setting for a while? Charge there too?

What if the old man was in fact a young man whom she found very attractive? Would she charge him too? Probably not in fairness. So what is really going on here then? Agism on her part? Could he potentially charge her?

Sarahdunners · 15-12-2019 12:19PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Some men you mean, don't lump us all into that category.

Some men, yes. I could have worded that better.

Sarahdunners · 15-12-2019 12:21PM

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

When was this a prevailing attitude in men?

Where was anyone mauled in this scenario? Or intimidating? You seem to be trying to include details akin to a serious sexual assault, that simply arent there. Why?

Re the old man, did she have to file a sexual charge against him to show him she isnt taking it though? Obviously you havent provided a huge amount of detail on that but Im assuming an old man put a hand on her backside for a second or two? To my mind, a charge in that scenario is overkill. Just because you can do something, doesnt make it the right course of action.

Where does that stop? Does it have to be physical touch? What if a girl/boy really fancies someone who doesnt return their affections, and they haunt them a bit with texts and in a social setting for a while? Charge there too?

What if the old man was in fact a young man whom she found very attractive? Would she charge him too? Probably not in fairness. So what is really going on here then? Agism on her part? Could he potentially charge her?

Anyone grabbing a bum of someone else: is sexual assault.

I don't see the confusion. I have managed to get through life and not:

Grab my neighbour's ass
Grab a co worker's ass
Grab a stranger's ass on the street.

I had respect for those people.

Sarahdunners · 15-12-2019 12:22PM

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

When was this a prevailing attitude in men?

Where was anyone mauled in this scenario? Or intimidating? You seem to be trying to include details akin to a serious sexual assault, that simply arent there. Why?

Re the old man, did she have to file a sexual charge against him to show him she isnt taking it though? Obviously you havent provided a huge amount of detail on that but Im assuming an old man put a hand on her backside for a second or two? To my mind, a charge in that scenario is overkill. Just because you can do something, doesnt make it the right course of action.

Where does that stop? Does it have to be physical touch? What if a girl/boy really fancies someone who doesnt return their affections, and they haunt them a bit with texts and in a social setting for a while? Charge there too?

What if the old man was in fact a young man whom she found very attractive? Would she charge him too? Probably not in fairness. So what is really going on here then? Agism on her part? Could he potentially charge her?

But why does her neighbour have the right to grab her ass for any length of time at all? He doesn't.

MayoAreMagic · 15-12-2019 12:23PM

Sarahdunners wrote: »

Touching a vagina is worse for sure, but they are both in the scale if sexual assaults

So you accept they arent the same thing...

nkl12xtw5goz70 · 15-12-2019 12:24PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

If she said she was murdered, kidnapped, beaten etc. then it would be embarrassing. She didn't say any of that. She just commented on what actually happened to her.

She has come out with statements like "He took my power, and I'm trying to take that back." Supporters such as journalism professor Susan Walker have commented on the "workplace hazards" faced by female reporters, pointing to another incident in September where a man kissed reporter Sara Rivest at a music festival in Kentucky live on air. That man is also facing criminal charges.

Meanwhile, many journalists risk their safety and their lives daily in the course of doing their jobs. Others in their profession who are filing criminal charges and bleating about how someone "took my power" over minor incidents like this have no sense of perspective.

Want to see "workplace hazards"? Try reporting from Syria or Afghanistan for a few weeks.

Alecto · 15-12-2019 12:26PM

Sarahdunners wrote: »

Alecto it can be incredibly upsetting for some people.

I remmber a woman that I worked with, spoke to me about her ass being groped years ago. At a work do. She was very upset about it because he went in and under as far as he could until he eas touching her vagina. That IS sexual assault. If she was upset about it years later - does that show you that it is wrong?

I've been raped and I've been sexually assaulted. I'm well aware of how upsetting it is.

abff · 15-12-2019 12:27PM

As usual, lots of diametrically opposed opinions being expressed. My thoughts on the subject, for what it's worth, are as follows:

Was he wrong to slap her ass as he ran by? Yes.

Is she over-reacting and being a bit precious about it? Probably.

Does he deserve jail time for what he did? I don't think so.

Would a fine be appropriate? Yes, he behaved like an ass.

Should he be put on a list of sex offenders? Not unless he has previous in this regard.

Sarahdunners · 15-12-2019 12:27PM

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

So you accept they arent the same thing...

Yes absolutely. I know which would upset me more, and I think that touching a vagina would be listed as more serious on th list of sexual assaults.

I have empathy for men.

They used to be told that this kind of stuff was okay, pinching women on the bum etc, and now they have to move forward to a world where it is now a sexual assault.

But women never enjoyed or wanted that behaviour. And we are moving forward from a very sexist society to a society where women are more respected.

But it will be a much better society for everyone , including men

MayoAreMagic · 15-12-2019 12:29PM

Sarahdunners wrote: »

But why does her neighbour have the right to grab her ass for any length of time at all? He doesn't.

I never said he did. My point is, just because you are wronged, doesnt mean you can just do what you like in retaliation and be justified.

Someone else doing it isnt justification either. If someone fell at work, was fine but sued them anyway, does that justify it for everyone else to do?

jam_mac_jam · 15-12-2019 12:29PM

What are women meant to do, have a little giggle when men touch them without asking. The cheek of her pressing charges for something done to her, i genuinely don't get the point here.

What is the correct response, do nothing. Its not a nice thing to happen, it's quite shocking and its really not a pleasant thing to endure. But apparently its snowflakes or pc gone mad to object.

Sardonicat · 15-12-2019 12:29PM

Lakefreeze__ wrote: »

No obviously he doesn't, just like nobody has the right to touch someone on the arm or the foot. Sometimes adults should deal with these things themselves before going straight to the police which is way over the top. If someone slaps someone on the ass they should be told to fukc off. If it happens again then give them a warning that you'll go to the police. If they do it again then go to the police and let them know you're being persistently harassed. The police have limited resources, it's ridiculous to waste resources for such trivial nonsense.

What if he slapped her across the face?

Hannibal_Smith · 15-12-2019 12:34PM

Lakefreeze__ wrote: »

If a slap on the ass is shocking then the police can't do anything for you, you should visit a psychiatrist and work on your resilience. What are you going to do when you get sacked and the mortgage is due, or when a family member dies.

If its not shocking to you, its you who needs the psychiatrist.

mondeo · 15-12-2019 12:34PM

Wasn't there a famous photo after WW2 of an American soldier kissing a news reporter live on TV? He was so happy the war was declared over and just grabbed her like Romeo....

Sardonicat · 15-12-2019 12:35PM

Lakefreeze__ wrote: »

If a slap on the ass is shocking then the police can't do anything for you, you should visit a psychiatrist and work on your resilience. What are you going to do when you get sacked and the mortgage is due, or when a family member dies.

So you should just expect slapping across the ass as part and parcel of being female? Essentially, you are saying women should just put up with it. The fact that you think it shouldn't be shocking suggests you believe it is well within the bounds if normal and accectable male behaviour which is frankly, an insult to men.

Sardonicat · 15-12-2019 12:36PM

mondeo wrote: »

Wasn't there a famous photo after WW2 of an American soldier kissing a news reporter live on TV? He was so happy the war was declared over and just grabbed her like Romeo....

Yes, and years later the woman was interviewed and said she was disgusted and was actually trying to fight him off.

893bet · 15-12-2019 12:36PM

Good to have this predator off the streets.

MayoAreMagic · 15-12-2019 12:40PM

Sarahdunners wrote: »

But women never enjoyed or wanted that behaviour. And we are moving forward from a very sexist society to a society where women are more respected.

But it will be a much better society for everyone , including men

That is the thing though. I have heard women talking about guys where one was saying she fancied a guy but he wasnt 'confident' enough. When i asked how did she mean, she said well some lads would kinda touch your arm when talking to you, or give you a 'cheeky pat on the bum'. So i dont believe you can say that no woman ever enjoyed or wanted that behaviour. You cant actually speak for all women. What is the difference between the above 'cheeky pat' and your 'mauling grope'? Whether the woman fancies the guy or not?
I know that some are indeed sexual assualts, but it isnt across the board either. That is why I find this kinda bullheaded approach inappropriate. These things are nuanced.

jam_mac_jam · 15-12-2019 12:41PM

Lakefreeze__ wrote: »

If a slap on the ass is shocking then the police can't do anything for you, you should visit a psychiatrist and work on your resilience. What are you going to do when you get sacked and the mortgage is due, or when a family member dies. Women can tell the assailant to fukc off and get on with their day. It's not like he was a serious threat in this case.

Yes it is shocking no need to go to a psychiatrist thanks. I pay my mortgage every month and have dealt with quite a lot of traumatic things in my life thanks.

I have been groped and a slapped a number of times including an army officer in a foreign country so yes it is shocking and horrible.

How the **** would you know anyway what people are meant to feel.

I need to see a psychiatrist. Are you five

Sardonicat · 15-12-2019 12:42PM

Lakefreeze__ wrote: »

That's assault and should be reported to the police, it's much more serious. The buttocks is the safest place to be shot, stabbed or hit. Being slapped on the ass is not that big of a deal. On the face is significantly more serious.

It's still a slap and it's still assault, regardless of how 'safe' it is to do it. Why do you think it's OK to hit someone anywhere on their body?

MayoAreMagic · 15-12-2019 12:43PM

Sardonicat wrote: »

What if he slapped her across the face?

Which would be an entirely different scenario...

What if he shot her?!

jam_mac_jam · 15-12-2019 12:44PM

It's actually horrible when it happens. You just get a horrible sinking feeling in your stomach but hey lets all put with that or we are snowflakes

Statler · 15-12-2019 12:46PM

mondeo wrote: »

Wasn't there a famous photo after WW2 of an American soldier kissing a news reporter live on TV? He was so happy the war was declared over and just grabbed her like Romeo....

Live TV and a female reporter at the end of WW2?

Sardonicat wrote: »

Yes, and years later the woman was interviewed and said she was disgusted and was actually trying to fight him off.

If it's the sailor/woman kissing in Times Square photo she didn't say that. People have issues with the image, but she doesn't appear to have had the same opinion.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47287048

Runner that slapped reporters ass, is facing criminal charges

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