Ulster Team Talk Thread IV... Go On My Henderson...

Paul Smeenus · 07-12-2019 12:39pm

What on earth... That's the most random phone autocorrect ever. I've never even texted or messaged his name...

Obviously I meant Mr R. Best.

07-12-2019 3:17pm

Harlequins about to get properly humped imp.

07-12-2019 3:33pm

Ferris has become a very good pundit. Took him a few seasons to remember to turn off his inner Ulster fan but he's great to listen too.

razorblunt · 07-12-2019 4:02pm

Did the ref just ignore a penalty for Quins at that scrum only for Quins to knock it on after 2 passes? Bit harsh.

razorblunt · 07-12-2019 4:07pm

Robshaw is properly rattled whatever is wrong with him.

Marler is such a shíthouse, playing peacemaker but leaving a little on ludik and Murphy

Squidgy Black · 07-12-2019 4:28pm

Lovely stuff from Marshall and then McCloskey finishing it off, you forget sometimes how good Marshall is as a distributor.

Side note, I absolutely hate the whole players sliding in on carriers like Lang did there, he didn't make contact luckily but it's such a stupid thing to do.

07-12-2019 4:29pm

McCloskey has to be in contention for Ireland. Still has errors to his game but he's relentless here and central to Ulsters lead.

07-12-2019 4:33pm

Brilliant from Ludik there, kept it in field and released the ball perfectly as support came in.

ongarite · 07-12-2019 4:48pm

Thats is bad bad from Ulster.
In total control at 2M out and then intercept and conceed for a try.

Squidgy Black · 07-12-2019 4:50pm

ongarite wrote: »

Thats is bad bad from Ulster.
In total control at 2M out and then intercept and conceed for a try.

Superb stuff from Dombrant in fairness, Ulster just left scrambling to try and get back.

07-12-2019 4:57pm

Get. In.

Shefwedfan · 07-12-2019 4:57pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

McCloskey has to be in contention for Ireland. Still has errors to his game but he's relentless here and central to Ulsters lead.

Who would he replace in the squad?

07-12-2019 4:58pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Who would he replace in the squad?

Like everyone else he would become an option for selection. I just think he's a more realistic option than he was 2-3 seasons ago when he seemed to be discounted.

Shefwedfan · 07-12-2019 4:59pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Like everyone else he would become an option for selection. I just think he's a more realistic option than he was 2-3 seasons ago when he seemed to be discounted.

Yes he is an option but unless injuries I think Ireland has better options.....

07-12-2019 5:10pm

Incredible tap tackle from Marler. Exceptional.

Squidgy Black · 07-12-2019 5:12pm

Massive kick, unreal stuff from Cooney.

awec · 07-12-2019 5:15pm

McCloskey man of the match. Well deserved.

LuckyGent88 · 07-12-2019 5:16pm

Great win from Ulster. Had to dig deep and they managed to turn around the result. In a great position now.

Locke_Lamora · 07-12-2019 5:17pm

We really are making this campaign difficult for ourselves. If we can't scrape any bonus points then we may have to win in France...

AdamD · 07-12-2019 5:17pm

Jesus that harlequins sub 9 really took the piss with his time wasting at the base of the ruck. 5 seconds to use the ball after the ref calls it is just too much

razorblunt · 07-12-2019 5:21pm

AR telling the ref Quins were offside at the last ruck, ignored again by the ref. He’s really out of his depth at this level. I thought it was going to catch Ulster unfairly at the end.

awec · 07-12-2019 5:21pm

AdamD wrote: »

Jesus that harlequins sub 9 really took the piss with his time wasting at the base of the ruck. 5 seconds to use the ball after the ref calls it is just too much

Yea that was a joke.

07-12-2019 5:22pm

Great game but thought Ulster were poor overall. I think harlequins came over with zero pressure and showed a good deal of freedom and composure. It took a moment of absolute madness to hand the game to Ulster but the visitors did little to justify how close the game ended up being.

Good result but need to be a lot better next week. Ulster still taking a step back at random times during the season - need more consistency.

Locke_Lamora · 07-12-2019 5:36pm

As much as I enjoy randomly hyping up Baloucoune and Lyttle, I really am beginning to think they should be ahead of Gilroy - he has looked far too hesitant and sluggish in attack recently, and his defence and other intangibles were never to a high standard anyway. When you consider that his line breaking and footwork were what made him a great player, you have to think he's a little lucky to have that starting spot right now.

Was also disappointed in Stockdale. Overplayed the ball at times.

Henderson and McCloskey saved me from crying myself to sleep tonight, roll on next week.

Brewster · 07-12-2019 5:42pm

Realistically, Ulster probably playing for runner up spot. Can they go to Clermont and not lose? I’m not so sure... I think Clermont will top group and Ulster will qualify in 2nd place. Ulster should be better next week and they should beat Bath.

Paul Smeenus · 07-12-2019 6:26pm

I would hope we won't be as poor as that again. Our own worst enemy.

bilston · 07-12-2019 6:31pm

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

I would hope we won't be as poor as that again. Our own worst enemy.

That was our worst performance of the season, but we got the win...deserved or not...

McCloskey man of the match. He was as good as he was bad today. But I suppose he came good in the big moments.

McBurney continues to close the gap on Herring.

bilston · 07-12-2019 6:34pm

Locke_Lamora wrote: »

As much as I enjoy randomly hyping up Baloucoune and Lyttle, I really am beginning to think they should be ahead of Gilroy - he has looked far too hesitant and sluggish in attack recently, and his defence and other intangibles were never to a high standard anyway. When you consider that his line breaking and footwork were what made him a great player, you have to think he's a little lucky to have that starting spot right now.

Was also disappointed in Stockdale. Overplayed the ball at times.

Henderson and McCloskey saved me from crying myself to sleep tonight, roll on next week.

Balacoune should definitely be in contention next week.

You say Stockdale was poor, maybe he was, but in the two minutes McCloskey could have put him into loads of space but decided not to pass. I honestly thought McCloskey had some really poor moments today. But I'll need to watch it again I suppose.

Sinbad_NI · 07-12-2019 6:53pm

Very lucky to win today.
So many unforced turnovers almost cost them dearly.

Agree the lack of BPs will cost them. Clermont def in the driving seat even before this weekend.

Locke_Lamora · 07-12-2019 7:10pm

bilston wrote: »

Balacoune should definitely be in contention next week.

You say Stockdale was poor, maybe he was, but in the two minutes McCloskey could have put him into loads of space but decided not to pass. I honestly thought McCloskey had some really poor moments today. But I'll need to watch it again I suppose.

Could be right, my perspective might be skewed a bit because of the try and offload. Definitely had some lowlights to go with the highlights.

Hands Like Flippers · 07-12-2019 7:27pm

bilston wrote: »

Balacoune should definitely be in contention next week.

You say Stockdale was poor, maybe he was, but in the two minutes McCloskey could have put him into loads of space but decided not to pass. I honestly thought McCloskey had some really poor moments today. But I'll need to watch it again I suppose.

Yes, McCloskey made some mistakes but he has obviously been asked to a, carry hard and b, create space and linebreaks in part by offloading.

B, is being advocated by lots of people including myself especially in light of the poor results with the Conservative approach at the wc. B will inevitably lead to errors but also linebreaks and scores. He set up one try and scored one. Teams need players who can cause or make breaks. Quinns 2nd rows were even bouncing off him at times. He should be looked at at Ire camp for sure. For all the hype I'm not sold on Aki being better. He forced a few but without him tonight Ulster would not have won.

Marshall was good.

In terms of Stockdale I thought he did pretty well actually. Team/ Burns didn't use him enough. He has to push his involvement as well of course.

Burns is the man with the crossfield kicks but just passes everything on aside from that. Not much of a threat himself.

Cooney butchered a score with a 2 on 1.

bilston · 07-12-2019 7:34pm

You have to ask whether Gilly is doing enough to be ahead of Bobby B. I thought Gilroy slipped off one or two tackles today. As I said pre match Balacoune maybe doesn't have enough rugby under his belt this season.

Thought Treadwell did well from the bench. Also credit to Faddes. He was only on the pitch briefly but that was his best effort to date. Hopefully a sign of things to come.

Hands Like Flippers · 07-12-2019 7:59pm

bilston wrote: »

You have to ask whether Gilly is doing enough to be ahead of Bobby B. I thought Gilroy slipped off one or two tackles today. As I said pre match Balacoune maybe doesn't have enough rugby under his belt this season.

Thought Treadwell did well from the bench. Also credit to Faddes. He was only on the pitch briefly but that was his best effort to date. Hopefully a sign of things to come.

Gilly - fair comment.

Dubinusa · 08-12-2019 5:34am

McCloskey must be knackered. They are flogging him. As physical as he plays it must really be tough getting up the next day. I reckon he's going to be rested up over xmass. Gilroy is just back from a back injury. It will take a few matches to get up to speed.

Digifriendly · 08-12-2019 6:16am

Was at the game. Ulster were some way off their best but showed character in coming back when they looked like they were going to lose. Harlequins IMHO are an average English Premiership side and we should have put them away comfortably. Stockdale should be back on the wing next weekend with Faddes or Ludik at full back and Balacoune on the other wing.

bilston · 08-12-2019 9:48am

Digifriendly wrote: »

Was at the game. Ulster were some way off their best but showed character in coming back when they looked like they were going to lose. Harlequins IMHO are an average English Premiership side and we should have put them away comfortably. Stockdale should be back on the wing next weekend with Faddes or Ludik at full back and Balacoune on the other wing.

Stockdale got a lot more touches at 15 than he has been getting on the wing. Whether it worked or not I don't know, he didn't play badly, he had a couple of good moments.

Defensively Harlequins numbered up very well, it was hard to break them down, plus they seemed to play fast and loose with the offside line.

We will see how next week goes.

Also when do we start discussing the hooker position. I like Herring, but I just think McBurney has the potential to go all the way to the very top and he is starting to show it consistently from the bench.

awec · 08-12-2019 1:21pm

McBurney is class. Really abrasive.

Don’t know who started the ruckus after his try but it could well have been him.

Burkie1203 · 08-12-2019 1:23pm

awec wrote: »

McBurney is class. Really abrasive.

Don’t know who started the ruckus after his try but it could well have been him.

Im hoping Andy Farrell doesn't try and "play Murray back into form"

This bollocks of players below Murray not being good enough needs to end. A player in better form will offer more.

awec · 08-12-2019 1:36pm

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Im hoping Andy Farrell doesn't try and "play Murray back into form"

This bollocks of players below Murray not being good enough needs to end. A player in better form will offer more.

I agree but not sure McBurney is the answer at 9.

Digifriendly · 08-12-2019 2:57pm

Referee was poor. Harlequins hooker was play acting before what seemed every other lineout and incurred wrath of crowd.

damianmcr · 08-12-2019 4:33pm

I seen that. I could only laugh at it.

Marler was being an idiot at the lineout to I noticed and did I see Sinkler waving his arms when Cooney was taking a kick?

mfceiling · 08-12-2019 5:14pm

awec wrote: »

McBurney is class. Really abrasive.

Don’t know who started the ruckus after his try but it could well have been him.

McBurney could start a row in an empty room.

launish116 · 08-12-2019 5:49pm

bilston wrote: »

You have to ask whether Gilly is doing enough to be ahead of Bobby B. I thought Gilroy slipped off one or two tackles today. As I said pre match Balacoune maybe doesn't have enough rugby under his belt this season.

Thought Treadwell did well from the bench. Also credit to Faddes. He was only on the pitch briefly but that was his best effort to date. Hopefully a sign of things to come.

Also agree Re. Gilroy, think Baloucoune should start, but Gilroy’s experience and B’s match fitness is keeping him back. Baloucoune just seems so natural and his work rate if he makes a defensive mistake is unreal!

In fairness to O’Connor he has gone up a gear this season. always thought Treadwell would be a head of him.

Locke_Lamora · 08-12-2019 7:25pm

mfceiling wrote: »

McBurney could start a row in an empty room.

A lot has been said about his temperament, attitude etc, but I'm just glad we seem to have a decent young hooker that can throw a good lineout and throw himself about in open play. At least the coaches finally seem to have the confidence to give him minutes now.

bilston · 08-12-2019 7:30pm

Locke_Lamora wrote: »

A lot has been said about his temperament, attitude etc, but I'm just glad we seem to have a decent young hooker that can throw a good lineout and throw himself about in open play. At least the coaches finally seem to have the confidence to give him minutes now.

It may have been his temperament holding him back in the past. To me he has a lot of good attributes. He is a good thrower, he is a dynamic ball carrier and he looks to be very good at the breakdown as well.

I haven't seen him enough of him defensively and I haven't a clue how strong his scrummaging is. He isn't the biggest guy in the world either.

Paul Smeenus · 09-12-2019 10:37am

So... Roddy, then. Couldn't find stats on the Euro Rugby homepage, but it feels to me like our lineout has really found its feet in the last few weeks. Think quite a few of our wins are due to nuts and bolts setpiece improvements.

Locke_Lamora · 09-12-2019 10:54am

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

So... Roddy, then. Couldn't find stats on the Euro Rugby homepage, but it feels to me like our lineout has really found its feet in the last few weeks. Think quite a few of our wins are due to nuts and bolts setpiece improvements.

I thought we were in for a long year when the cheetahs picked out lineout apart. Maul has looked very usable as well recently.

bilston · 09-12-2019 11:03am

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

So... Roddy, then. Couldn't find stats on the Euro Rugby homepage, but it feels to me like our lineout has really found its feet in the last few weeks. Think quite a few of our wins are due to nuts and bolts setpiece improvements.

The lineout has been good, it's heresey to say it but we have better lineout throwers this season!

Paul Smeenus · 09-12-2019 11:52am

bilston wrote: »

The lineout has been good, it's heresey to say it but we have better lineout throwers this season!

Och, I know what you're getting at, but our lineout has been very poor before with Herring throwing. And there was a lot of very apparent miscommunication.

mfceiling · 09-12-2019 3:06pm

Locke_Lamora wrote: »

Maul has looked very usable as well recently.

Maul has definitely improved from Dan took over.

Ulster Team Talk Thread IV... Go On My Henderson...

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