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India. weird or wonderful?

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    #2
    Trigger Happy
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    I have been to india a few times and found it to be an interesting and fascinating place. But no way could I live there.


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    Hulk Hands
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    Was in a customer facing role a while back dealing with many nationalities and they were consistently the hardest to serve. Possible (likely) we're only getting the richer more entitled ones over here


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    #4
    topper75
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    Most people there are quite sane. Bigger population: bigger weird.
    Same applies to U.S.
    They just don't publish the 'normal person got on with normal day' type stories here in Ireland so you can end up with a distorted view very quickly.
    I got sent there with work and it was quite educational. I wouldn't have afforded a personal trip.


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    Letwin_Larry
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    topper75 wrote: »
    Most people there are quite sane. Bigger population: bigger weird.
    Same applies to U.S.
    They just don't publish the 'normal person got on with normal day' type stories here in Ireland so you can end up with a distorted view very quickly.
    I got sent there with work and it was quite educational. I wouldn't have afforded a personal trip.


    i have no doubt the vast majority of their 1.3 billion people go about their daily, boring lives in a humdrum manner, but you add in a big dollop of religion, and the weird just gets weirder.


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    Wibbs
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    A fascinating country and set of cultures and history, but overall, yeah weird and corrupt and horribly divided on so many levels.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    branie2
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    Looks wonderful to me


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    Letwin_Larry
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    and we wont even mention their crazy Caste system!
    i didn't know this until i recently saw a documentary on TV recently, but there are 2nd, 3rd, 4th generation Brits of Indian heritage who are "bound" by it when it comes to marriage, career choices etc.


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    #9
    Thelonious Monk
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    Elephant gods are cool, way cooler than depressing f*ckers on crosses etc. Also I love their food, although methinks if I actually went to India the food would be totes different.


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    biko
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    I like the place and did for a time consider moving there.
    In the end I stayed but it's still something I think about sometimes.


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    B.A._Baracus
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    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    Was in a customer facing role a while back dealing with many nationalities and they were consistently the hardest to serve. Possible (likely) we're only getting the richer more entitled ones over here

    Absolutely.
    Terrible poverty in India. So only the richer people would be able to afford coming over.

    I find India to be two opposite sides of the spectrum. Sure, you could go to the nice places are see the wonderful things. But go to the wrong parts and see just how some of the poorest people on earth live. Not to mention the rapes and attitudes to women.

    You know what tho? India is a kip. Let's just call a spade a spade. Yeah, sure, some good parts but it's a kip!


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    Letwin_Larry wrote: »
    I've always considered India to be a bit of a strange and interesting place, especially when it comes to crime & punishment, and attitudes towards women. and religion? i mean Gods that look like elephants?!! but this case shines a light on yet another of those crazy Indian situations.



    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/06/indian-police-shoot-dead-four-men-suspected-of-hyderabad

    Police shoot 4 suspects when they tried to escape?

    In a huge country with a population approximately one fifth of the entire world, thats the weirdest and 'craziest' you could find? Really?


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    Letwin_Larry
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    B.A._Baracus wrote: »
    Absolutely.
    Terrible poverty in India. So only the richer people would be able to afford coming over.

    I find India to be two opposite sides of the spectrum. Sure, you could go to the nice places are see the wonderful things. But go to the wrong parts and see just how some of the poorest people on earth live. Not to mention the rapes and attitudes to women.

    You know what tho? India is a kip. Let's just call a spade a spade. Yeah, sure, some good parts but it's a kip!

    a friend of mine spent a couple of years in India. because there are no public facilities (well not enough) people just let nature take its' course and have a crap when the urge takes them.

    i guess that makes it a big dump that's full of sh1t, but with interesting deity figures.


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    uck51js9zml2yt
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    Currently in india. Food is like nothing you get at home.
    Poverty and homelessness makes both a doddle at home.
    If you are homeless here you have nothing and at best are living under a bridge or a central median on the road.
    It's a tale of 2 countries, the wealthy have everything the poor nothing.
    We romanticise it in the west. Our version is a fairy tale.


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    o1s1n
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    I find their food and art culture really fascinating and interesting. However some of their human rights issues are downright awful, especially the treatment of women and their caste system.

    I've also worked with quite a lot of Indian businessmen over the years and have found, on average, that the higher they get in an organisation, the worse they get.

    That old saying about measuring people as to how they treat those below them really does not look favourably towards their actions at all.


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    jam_mac_jam
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    Its an amazing country, very interesting, captivating with the most beautiful mountains and scenery and historical sights. Also the most filthy place you will ever see in your life.

    Some truly disgusting sights to be seen. I would recommend going but its quite a harsh place in ways and pretty horrible the wealth that exists there and the way that some people live. Some of the cities would make you sick with the smell or rubbish.


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    kenmc
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    Went there on honeymoon.
    It's a full on assault on the senses: sound, sight, smell ever present, and then the taste of course, awesome. We previously spent months in western China, some tiny remote villages, likewise Laos, Cambodia, even northern Thailand and Vietnam, but nothing I saw or experienced there prepared me for the first couple of days in Delhi. Was completely overwhelmed for the first time in my life. Came round soon enough, and loved the rest of the time, 3 weeks in all. It's absolutely filthy, there's no sense of personal space whatsoever, but it's absolutely fascinating. Highly recommend a visit


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    TheValeyard
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    Who needs the Kwik-E-Mart?
    Now here's the tricky part
    Oh, won't you rhyme with me?
    Who needs the Kwik-E-Mart?

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



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    ScallionAyter
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    I was there for a week. The roads are insane - lanes mean nothing to them. The thing i liked about the place was that there's no welfare state. People are up at the crack of dawn to sell flip flops at the side of the road.

    They must think we're insane with our cradle to grave welfare system. We are.


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    Spanish Eyes
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    Despite all my travels it is one country I had no desire to visit. Just seems so crowded, polluted and lawless in many ways, and the poor are kicked to the kerb in many places, probably the result of the caste system.

    That is not to say that there aren't many great places to see either. Just me.


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    anewme
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    I'm the same. I'm very well travelled and not afraid anywhere. But its one place as a solo woman I would not go to.


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    Plumbthedepths
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    ScallionAyter wrote: »
    I was there for a week. The roads are insane - lanes mean nothing to them. The thing i liked about the place was that there's no welfare state. People are up at the crack of dawn to sell flip flops at the side of the road.

    They must think we're insane with our cradle to grave welfare system. We are.

    Oh I don't know I quite like the idea of a safety net. Of course you'll have a cohort that will abuse the system, small price to pay in my opinion.Happy that we are not ok with letting the poorer or vulnerable in our society just move to the fringe and die.


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    mistress_gi
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    ScallionAyter wrote: »
    I was there for a week. The roads are insane - lanes mean nothing to them. The thing i liked about the place was that there's no welfare state. People are up at the crack of dawn to sell flip flops at the side of the road.

    They must think we're insane with our cradle to grave welfare system. We are.

    I was a little sick in my mouth listening to that...


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    ScallionAyter
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Oh I don't know I quite like the idea of a safety net.

    It's not a safety net for these people buying iPhone 8's and EP tickets. It's a hammock.


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    Plumbthedepths
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    ScallionAyter wrote: »
    It's not a safety net for these people, it's a hammock.

    The rest of my comment explained my mindset. I 'm happy we don't actively allow our citizens who can't help themselves for whatever reason fall to the fringes and die through hunger or ill health. I conceded there are some that will take advantage, again a small price to pay in the grand scheme of things.


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    Wibbs
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    ScallionAyter wrote: »
    I was there for a week. The roads are insane - lanes mean nothing to them. The thing i liked about the place was that there's no welfare state. People are up at the crack of dawn to sell flip flops at the side of the road.

    They must think we're insane with our cradle to grave welfare system. We are.
    Given a choice between a civilised social democracy like Ireland where there is a safety net and very little true poverty and the utter sh1thole(literally) with a huge wealth gap and social exclusion like India, I'll take Ireland thanks and figure it's well worth my taxes, of which I've paid a sh1t ton of in my life. Hell in VAT alone it's in the millions.

    I love these third hand opinion mini imported libertarians that come out with this guff. They to a man and woman assume that in a sink or swim, pull yourself up by the bootstraps, with no welfare type state they'd be the ones doing the swimming. Doesn't quite work like that though enough of the top swimmers have convinced the sinkers and the doggy paddle shallow end strugglers that it does. QV The American Dream(tm). What's the percentage of well off in India, what's the percentage of dirt poor? Yeah, as rolls of the dice go, chances are very much in favour of the same anti welfare types being the ones defecating on the street.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    Mad_maxx
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    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    Was in a customer facing role a while back dealing with many nationalities and they were consistently the hardest to serve. Possible (likely) we're only getting the richer more entitled ones over here

    i live with chronic pain stemming from an injury which involves meeting orthopedics , radiologists and pain specialists on a fairly regular basis so deal with doctors quite a lot , those from india are my least favourite by a country mile , most are arrogant and rude , some i reckon have no medical qualifications at all

    i have never had a negative experience with an african ( black or north african ) or middle eastern doctor just in case someone feels like playing the race card


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    McCrack
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    Given a choice between a civilised social democracy like Ireland where there is a safety net and very little true poverty and the utter sh1thole(literally) with a huge wealth gap and social exclusion like India, I'll take Ireland thanks and figure it's well worth my taxes, of which I've paid a sh1t ton of in my life. Hell in VAT alone it's in the millions.

    I love these third hand opinion mini imported libertarians that come out with this guff. They to a man and woman assume that in a sink or swim, pull yourself up by the bootstraps, with no welfare type state they'd be the ones doing the swimming. Doesn't quite work like that though enough of the top swimmers have convinced the sinkers and the doggy paddle shallow end strugglers that it does. QV The American Dream(tm). What's the percentage of well off in India, what's the percentage of dirt poor? Yeah, as rolls of the dice go, chances are very much in favour of the same anti welfare types being the ones defecating on the street.

    You talk some shyte


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    Ipso
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    A while back the BBC done a series on the partition of India and Pakistan (around the anniversary). I saw an ad for one of the shows, supposedly there was an Indian/Hindu school in an area that would likely end up in Pakistan; horrified at the prospect of his students becoming muslims the head master killed them.


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    ScallionAyter
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    it's well worth my taxes, of which I've paid a sh1t ton of in my life. Hell in VAT alone it's in the millions.

    Another wealthy latte liberal, who supports flinging our hard earned money at the feckless and bone idle Jacintas who've never seen a P60 in their life. You're ok with them until they move in next door... then you're onto your TD.


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    Plumbthedepths
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    McCrack wrote: »
    You talk some shyte

    The polite thing to do would be to give a detailed rebuttal instead of a 'braindead' soundbite just saying..


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