A doctor with extensive "body art"

blueshade · 02-12-2019 11:17AM

nthclare wrote: »

I'd probably prefer a doctor like that rather than some goof ball who lacks any interpersonal skills, talking down to you and has his little hareem of students taking notes,as if you're a rose bush covered in blackspot and fungus and he's telling them...

Here we have a rose which is infected with Diclocarpon rosae, what does it need ?

Amputation, systemic fungicide...

The fungicides tebuconazole (Provanto Fungus Fighter Concentrate), tebuconazole with trifloxystrobin (Provanto Fungus Fighter Plus, Toprose Fungus Control & Protect), and triticonazole (Scotts Fungus Clear Ultra and Scotts Fungus Clear Ultra Gun) are labelled for the control of rose black spot.

Now we're onto Jack, he's....

So you think a consultant shouldn't be teaching his students? The consultant uses rounds to teach students, they need to be focused on the disease they are seeing. Yes, a lot of the time a patients feelings aren't taken into account but a doctor covered in tattoos and piercings isn't going to be more patient focused just because they have tattoos and piercings. In most professions people with a lot of tattoos and piercing prefer to keep them covered at work because they can be taken less seriously because of them. Best of both worlds.

wakka12 · 02-12-2019 11:53AM

Strumms wrote: »

Why would someone having body art lead you to call into question their professionalism....?

Ah you could say that about loads of things. You could come into work in dirty old torn clothes or stinking of BO and even if it may not affect your your quality of work in any way of course people will call into question your professionalism

B.A._Baracus · 02-12-2019 11:55AM

It should be noted that she is an attractive woman.
What if it was some 50year old with tattoos all over his face and those head implants that make you look like a klingon.

... people wouldn't be as open then :pac:

blueshade · 02-12-2019 11:57AM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

It should be noted that she is an attractive woman.
What if it was some 50year old with tattoos all over his face and those head implants that make you look like a klingon.

... people wouldn't be as open then :pac:

In fairness, it's unlikely someone like that is going to get hired. Nursing homes will be interesting places in the next 50 years or so, lots of faded saggy tattoos and piercings a lot further south than they started off.

H3llR4iser · 02-12-2019 12:22PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I disagree though that we can’t determine anything from a persons tattoos, and the girl we’re talking about in this particular case has obviously gone to a lot of effort and expense for her appearance. To say she shouldn’t be or can’t be judged for her appearance is just silly.

Precisely. There's also another important aspect into play here: these tattoos and piercings aren't made in a day. It's the work of multiple years; which further calls her judgement into question - you're pursuing a career in medicine, which is a complex, vocational fueled endeavor at the best of times. And you go on and decide to cover yourself in tattoos and piercings.

Then complain about people perceiving you a certain way - it's the hallmark of poor judgement or, in the best case, just being completely out of touch with reality. Which aren't great things to have in a doctor.

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

It should be noted that she is an attractive woman.
What if it was some 50year old with tattoos all over his face and those head implants that make you look like a klingon.

... people wouldn't be as open then :pac:

Precisely. I can say it no problem whatsoever, it's super sexist but in what triggered millennials call "positive discrimination": with HER, zero problems whatsoever. Pretty much any woman really, no matter how weird her hair colour, tattoos, piercings or whatever.

If it was a male doctor sporting these tattoos and piercings, I'd call the Police straight away.

nthclare · 02-12-2019 12:36PM

blueshade wrote: »

So you think a consultant shouldn't be teaching his students? The consultant uses rounds to teach students, they need to be focused on the disease they are seeing. Yes, a lot of the time a patients feelings aren't taken into account but a doctor covered in tattoos and piercings isn't going to be more patient focused just because they have tattoos and piercings. In most professions people with a lot of tattoos and piercing prefer to keep them covered at work because they can be taken less seriously because of them. Best of both worlds.

I think you're reading.my post from a different direction.

I remember getting a lumber puncture done on my l5 S1 a painful procedure...

And I was getting it done privately, in walks some dude out his ounterage the guy doing the procedure told him to piss off if you get my drift.

I don't see anything wrong with people having to learn, but there's some people who like a bit of dignity too...

There's some people who don't fit in with social constructs.
I'm one of those, I respect others but I don't expect them to dictate what way I should dress or look...

As long as I'm not portraying anything like racism or something similar I think I can fit in.

But I can see where you are coming from thanks for pointing that out to me.

I have a soft spot for attractive looking women with tattoos

suicide_circus · 02-12-2019 12:44PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

It should be noted that she is an attractive woman.
What if it was some 50year old with tattoos all over his face and those head implants that make you look like a klingon.

... people wouldn't be as open then :pac:

there is no doubt that this is a factor

the beer revolu · 02-12-2019 01:01PM

To be honest, I've always found heavily groomed doctors and consultants to be a bit inappropriately turned out for hospital work. You know the look - full, extensive make up, seriously coiffed hair, designer handbag and expensive high heeled shoes - and usually reeking of various products.
This tattooed doctor is, in my opinion, no less appropriately turned out and her look would be closer to my taste than the "well dressed ones".

SEPT 23 1989 · 02-12-2019 01:05PM

a good bedside manner and more than a basic level of English matters more to me when im sick

CramCycle · 02-12-2019 01:06PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Ah you could say that about loads of things. You could come into work in dirty old torn clothes or stinking of BO and even if it may not affect your your quality of work in any way of course people will call into question your professionalism

That's very different as well you know. BO and dirty indicate hygiene issues in a setting where good hygiene keeps people alive, bad hygiene kills.

I don't care what they wear so long as it is appropriate for the setting, i.e. doctors wearing ties and letting them fall on top of patients during examinations is highly inappropriate, scrubs is not. Same goes for hygiene, if a doctor isn't seen to wash their hands or there is clearly dirt on their hands or elsewhere, then that is inappropriate. Non of these things are in any way related to tattoos.

Ash.J.Williams · 02-12-2019 01:06PM

galtsdrift wrote: »

https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/professional/just-because-i-m-colourful-doesn-t-mean-i-m-not-co

How would you honestly feel if you were in A&E or some other hospital deptment and the doctor come in with extensive visable tattoos and body piercings

grateful

LuckyLloyd · 02-12-2019 01:11PM

Homelander wrote: »

Nice post from a fellow doctor on that site:

I think that captures the heart of this topic - good on him.

wakka12 · 02-12-2019 01:16PM

CramCycle wrote: »

That's very different as well you know. BO and dirty indicate hygiene issues in a setting where good hygiene keeps people alive, bad hygiene kills.

I don't care what they wear so long as it is appropriate for the setting, i.e. doctors wearing ties and letting them fall on top of patients during examinations is highly inappropriate, scrubs is not. Same goes for hygiene, if a doctor isn't seen to wash their hands or there is clearly dirt on their hands or elsewhere, then that is inappropriate. Non of these things are in any way related to tattoos.

Thats just specific to the medical setting where cleanliness is more important than in most professions. I'm sure the poster I replied to meant that tatoos shouldnt call into question somebodys professionalism in any work environment, and what I said applies to most, such as an office. Wearing dirty torn clothes or having BO will not affect your work there, and yet people will call into question your professionalism.

take everything · 02-12-2019 01:23PM

So what about a heavily tattooed and pierced prime minister.
Or president.

Or heavily tattooed supreme court judge.
Would people feel the same.

Timberrrrrrrr · 02-12-2019 01:26PM

take everything wrote: »

So what about a heavily tattooed and pierced prime minister.
Or president.

Or heavily tattooed supreme court judge.
Would people feel the same.

This may come as a surprise to you but having a tattoo or 10 or piercings does not affect how a person does their job in any way shape or form.

blueshade · 02-12-2019 01:30PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

This may come as a surprise to you but having a tattoo or 10 or piercings does not affect how a person does their job in any way shape or form.

True, but it does affect how people perceive the person and how they might do the job. First impressions matter and it depends on whether you want to make an impression as somebody who is a dedicated medical professional or as someone who has a fetish for tattoos and piercings. Not saying the two are mutually exclusive but most people prefer to have a conventional looking doctor or other serious representative for important matters.

take everything · 02-12-2019 01:30PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

This may come as a surprise to you but having a tattoo or 10 or piercings does not affect how a person does their job in any way shape or form.

Jaysus I'm only asking what ye'd think.

One eyed Jack · 02-12-2019 01:31PM

take everything wrote: »

So what about a heavily tattooed and pierced prime minister.
Or president.

Or heavily tattooed supreme court judge.
Would people feel the same.

It’s obviously dependent upon context. If they were heavily tattooed with actual body art like the person in the article, then I would probably view them more favourably than a person who looks like they were pulled up through a sewer grille and are still covered in shìte.

One eyed Jack · 02-12-2019 01:34PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

This may come as a surprise to you but having a tattoo or 10 or piercings does not affect how a person does their job in any way shape or form.

It doesn’t come as a surprise to me at least that some people’s tattoos or piercings don’t affect their ability to do their job, but for most people they’re either an advantage or a disadvantage depending upon the job in question.

take everything · 02-12-2019 01:36PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

It’s obviously dependent upon context. If they were heavily tattooed with actual body art like the person in the article, then I would probably view them more favourably than a person who looks like they were pulled up through a sewer grille and are still covered in sh.

So, like for like, a supreme court (or even high court) judge with a nose ring and pink hair would be fine?

ohnonotgmail · 02-12-2019 01:39PM

take everything wrote: »

So, like for like, a supreme court (or even high court) judge with a nose ring and pink hair would be fine?

why would it not be? I think judge is a job where substance is far more important than how they look.

take everything · 02-12-2019 01:45PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

why would it not be? I think judge is a job where substance is far more important than how they look.

Fair enough.
Just wondering if tattoo-blindness applied to all professions.

One eyed Jack · 02-12-2019 01:45PM

take everything wrote: »

So, like for like, a supreme court (or even high court) judge with a nose ring and pink hair would be fine?

Yes, that’s pretty much what I said. If it were a shìte dye job or a nose ring that blocked their nostrils and made their voice nasal, then I’d probably have an issue.

DavyD_83 · 02-12-2019 01:46PM

take everything wrote: »

So, like for like, a supreme court (or even high court) judge with a nose ring and pink hair would be fine?

Well, one argument there is that to get the job while looking like they do, they must be undeniably good at it to the point there was no excuse left to not give them the job.
I'd take the rebel judge over the dusty old guy any day, they may actually have tried to experience life themselves at some point.

Same for the doctor; although not sure I'd hold my conviction for face tattoos, or if the weird cat guy was my surgeon

jim o doom · 02-12-2019 01:47PM

I have a rake of tattoos, so I'd be pretty happy if a medical professional treating me had some good coverage. Be a conversation point at the very least.

take everything · 02-12-2019 01:54PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Yes, that’s pretty much what I said. If it were a sh dye job or a nose ring that blocked their nostrils and made their voice nasal, then I’d probably have an issue.

Ok.
As I said I just wanted to see if this being ok with tattoos applied to all professions.

Maybe there should be more judges with face tattoos.
Nicely done full face tattoos. Begs the question why there isnt tbh.

Would Leo look better with a nose ring. A nice one.

02-12-2019 01:57PM

But like, in 10/15 years time her tattoos will have dated awfully too..

Yester · 02-12-2019 02:00PM

I wouldn't be comfortable if they had teardrop tattoos.

One eyed Jack · 02-12-2019 02:05PM

take everything wrote: »

Ok.
As I said I just wanted to see if this being ok with tattoos applied to all professions.

Maybe there should be more judges with face tattoos.[
Nicely done full face tattoos. Begs the question why there isnt tbh.

Would Leo look better with a nose ring. A nice one.

One very simple explanation is that people with full face tattoos don’t want to be Judges. It could be how they perceive the profession based upon their own prejudices about other people based upon their appearance. I’ve known plenty of people with all manner of tattoos and all manner of personal piercings who imagined that because of my appearance I would view them negatively. It happens. It’s not the end of the world and there’s no need for any of this ‘breaking down barriers’ nonsense about tattoos and piercings or hairstyles or whatever.

It’s very simple- if you look like shìt, people are inclined to assume you also function like shìt. They might be wrong, but if they prefer someone attending to them that doesn’t look like shìt, they’re entitled to their personal preferences.

CoBo55 · 02-12-2019 02:12PM

Look at me, look at me, look at me... Who fcukin cares you numpty. Just go to work like everyone else and stop attention seeking.

A doctor with extensive "body art"

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