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Why do the masses gravitate to blandness?

  • 01-12-2019 11:47PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭


    The drinks industry. The most bland and tasteless products are the best sellers

    The music industry. Adeles music is absolutely dreadful, but it is manufactured in such away to appeal world wide. Bland, mid tempo, inoffensive supermarket music. Her last album sold 50, 000, 000 times


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 galtsdrift


    just look at the beers available in most pubs, I couldn't agree more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    U2 are the biggest band in the world, and if you think the likes of Running to Stand Still and Bullet the Blue Sky, and Acrobat are bland, then you have no ears. Granted they've churned out some mediocre stuff also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭wonderboysam


    Everyone I know just drinks lyons or barrys. Lol try some ginzeng like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,827 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The drinks industry. The most bland and tasteless products are the best sellers

    The music industry. Adeles music is absolutely dreadful, but it is manufactured in such away to appeal world wide. Bland, mid tempo, inoffensive supermarket music. Her last album sold 50, 000, 000 times

    All those new beers are just Carlsberg or Smithwicks with a different label.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,457 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Well with regard to the beers its probably because a lot of people drink alcohol just to get bladdered and not just for enjoyment. Therefore it's bland and cheaper (for Ireland!) than the tastier stuff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    If everyone liked something, it would by definition become bland, no?


    Why do you want to be a hipster so badly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭badabing106


    All those new beers are just Carlsberg or Smithwicks with a different label.

    Exactly. If you want to break into this market you have to make an equally bland and inoffensively tasteless product. But with good advertising


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 galtsdrift


    Exactly. If you want to break into this market you have to make an equally bland and inoffensively tasteless product. But with good advertising

    Punk IPA...massive product and very different taste.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,711 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    All those new beers are just Carlsberg or Smithwicks with a different label.

    A good pint of carlsberg is very very hard to match !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,914 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Most of the beers on the market are pretty drinkable.
    If they were not they would not sell.

    Most popular music is tuneful and well produced.
    If it wasn't nobody would bother with it.

    If somebody wants to drink IPA and listen to Japanese monk chants that's ok too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭badabing106


    tdf7187 wrote: »
    U2 are the biggest band in the world, and if you think the likes of Running to Stand Still and Bullet the Blue Sky, and Acrobat are bland, then you have no ears. Granted they've churned out some mediocre stuff also.

    But were those tracks played in supermarkets, dentist waiting rooms, as background music on soap operas, In elevators. There was a time for about 6 months you could not go anywhere without hearing this stuff constantly

    You can buy Adeles entire discography in dealz now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭BDI


    All those new beers are just Carlsberg or Smithwicks with a different label.

    Carlsberg or swithwicks with chocolate added.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Its inoffensive. Its not niche enough to exclude the individual.

    Bread is pretty bland. Its a best seller. Goth bread would only sell to goths other individuals would not feel it was for them.

    Spicey bread would sell to spices people.

    There are 'healthy' breads etc but well it will never outsell plain white bread.

    What has no identity can be sold to anyone. What has an identity can only be sold to people who identify with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,897 ✭✭✭Allinall


    95% of boards posters are outliers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,227 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I was a Guinness guy but the lagers such as Budweiser (ABSOLUTE PISS) Heineken, Coors and Carlsberg while drinkable were kinda bland tasting to me when compared to say Becks, Sierra Nevada Pale Ale (DELICIOUS).... Sierra Nevada mmmm

    Bland for many people = safe


  • Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is Adele that bad?.. People like simplicity in music..And it's a means of conveying emotion, which she probably does well..

    And the industry pushing her..


  • Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Allinall wrote: »
    95% of boards posters are outliers.

    Not me..I'm definitely within the normal distribution..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,827 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Allinall wrote: »
    95% of boards posters are outliers.

    I'd say it's an average of 60% to 80%.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Scratch the surface of most peoples lives and you'll scratch off the veneer of blandness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,227 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Is Adele that bad?.. People like simplicity in music..And it's a means of conveying emotion, which she probably does well..

    And the industry pushing her..

    When people who are intelligent and view music as an art form more then simply entertainment they see Adele and get a bit offended, if they don’t they should. Most people who are into music want to be challenged, entertained, excited to discover the new and the brilliant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Allinall wrote: »
    95% of boards posters are outliers.
    I'm not. I am very bland.


  • Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Strumms wrote: »
    When people who are intelligent and view music as an art form more then simply entertainment they see Adele and get a bit offended, if they don’t they should. Most people who are into music want to be challenged, entertained, excited to discover the new and the brilliant.

    Music is a means of conveying and manipulating emotions..What is the point of art if not to give voice to heartache and love?..These people you speak of who want to be challenged are just hipsters with notions..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    "Bland" typically means, "What the mainstream enjoys". Therefore by defintion, whatever is bland is going to be the most popular. And if you're a super cool hipster who doesn't conform, then you're going to think that the mainstream stuff is bland.

    If it didn't sell massively, it wouldn't sell. It wouldn't sell if people didn't enjoy it.

    The complaint that something is "bland" is merely that it has a wide appeal and is enjoyable to a majority of people. Your Hairy Anus IPA and Emilio Kalashnikov's 3-hour Didgeridoo concertos, do not have a wide appeal. Just because something is niche and not bland, doesn't mean it's good.

    Omelettes are bland when compared to dogsh1t. I know which I'd prefer to eat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭nkl12xtw5goz70


    Many people, busily juggling multiple responsibilities in life, don't have time to endlessly research craft beers or listen to obscure music. I daresay all of us have a particular passion, something we've devoted 10,000 hours to or know more about than 99% of people. It could be gardening, cooking, gaming, abstract art, nineteeth-century French poetry, etc. But most of us don't have time for more than one or two such passions in our lives, and so we have to be mainstream about everything else.

    In another thread, a poster talked about the appreciation he developed for the experimental, avant-garde music of Autechre over years of deep, attentive listening. To put this in perspective, their latest release is 8 hours of dense, abstract electronica.

    That is all very well for some — and I appreciate his dedication to the band and the genre — but it's just a reality that most people don't have the time. That doesn't mean they should be disparaged for humming along to pop songs in the car or drinking a pint of Carlsberg in a pub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Music is a means of conveying and manipulating emotions..What is the point of art if not to give voice to heartache and love?..These people you speak of who want to be challenged are just hipsters with notions..

    The point is craft. True craft, so many people don’t recognise or understand in order to appreciate craft. If something is bitter on the palate they dismiss it as rubbish and duly tested it down they just want the sweet stuff; the pretty stuff that sugar rush. I might to be in it for a rush myself but not of that variety more an adrenaline surge when craft is truly awe inspiring that’s the real sweet spot...

    If more people appreciated true construct in all its guises we wouldn’t be marginalised. We should not suffer, or pay over the odds for boring mediocrity. This is our message and our fight will continue!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    The drinks industry. The most bland and tasteless products are the best sellers

    The music industry. Adeles music is absolutely dreadful, but it is manufactured in such away to appeal world wide. Bland, mid tempo, inoffensive supermarket music. Her last album sold 50, 000, 000 times


    It’s not that people gravitate to blandness, it’s just that people gravitate towards what appeals to them.

    There’s a very niche market for an electric powered pick-up truck for example. It’s bland in my opinion, but it’s popular among EV enthusiasts. It remains to be seen whether it’s popular with people who actually drive bland pick-up trucks.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 428 ✭✭blueshade


    I think a lot of the new beers are aimed at the newly legal drinkers. So many are in soft drink style cans that look like they are being aimed at teenagers who are now legal but don't know what booze to buy. Retro music is so popular because a lot of youngsters don't like the bland music or drill or whatever else is out there. No skin of my nose, there was a time where people wanted to be different, there seems to be a fear of individuality now though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    The lack of appreciation astounds me to this day. You can still get great mass take yesterday; some buzz I left in high spirits. He really knows how to work the altar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,227 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Music is a means of conveying and manipulating emotions..What is the point of art if not to give voice to heartache and love?..These people you speak of who want to be challenged are just hipsters with notions..

    You can give voice to heartache and love amongst other emotions without having to play a fûckin Adele record.


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  • Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Strumms wrote: »
    You can give voice to heartache and love amongst other emotions without having to play a fûckin Adele record.

    I dunno..Have you ever listened to an Adele record?..A couple of her songs I heard on the radio were grand like..inoffensive..I just wouldn't knock her like..

    And anyway, you were going on about a fancy beer above, so you're definitely one of those 'hipsters with notions' I was referring to..

    Do you have a beard yeah?


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