Would you get involved?

bitofabind · 29-11-2019 05:33PM #1

Just watching the video of the pedestrians getting stuck in on the dude with the knife on London Bridge earlier - particularly love the guy in the suit who takes the knife out of his hands and backs away from him, fair play to him!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7739353/Brave-bystanders-bundled-terror-attack-knifeman-ground.html

Hard to guess what your response is gonna be in these situations, but I'd say with 99% certainty that I'd be running for the hills in the opposite direction.

What about you AH?

D3V!L · 29-11-2019 05:35PM

Well I speak for all the boards.ie keyboard warriors when I say that I'd drop kick your man and then restrain him while the cops come.

Did I do that right ? :cool:

frag420 · 29-11-2019 05:36PM

And leave my pint unattended?

Hell no!!

pidgeoneyes · 29-11-2019 05:36PM

No-one really knows how they'll react in such a situation.
Until they're in that situation!

29-11-2019 05:37PM

I think most people would like to think that they'd intervene but the reality is, until you're in such a situation, you'll just never know.

And hopefully never find out.

29-11-2019 05:44PM

Shock would stop most people. Thinking quickly just isn't part of most peoples daily lives... so it depends on their instincts which is likely due to their life experiences. I tend to be very aware of those around me, and the space between us, so I'd hope I could respond. Still, that's a hope. It hasn't been tested in well over a decade. Personally, I'd be inclined to throw something, anything rather than jump in. I'm a skinny weak guy so any involvement from me would likely be a hazard to all involved. :pac:

bitofabind · 29-11-2019 05:45PM

yeah that's pretty true. A shocking amount of people will pull out their phones and start recording, even in situations where there's a threat to life. Adrenaline makes people do funny things.

29-11-2019 05:48PM

I'd put him through a table from the top of the Hell in a Cell with Jim Ross screaming "Bah Gawd! As God As My Witness He Is Broken In Half!" from across the street.

Fact.

wiggle16 · 29-11-2019 05:49PM

I'd scream at the top of my lungs and do the I-need-to-wee-wee dance, then play dead and slowly crawl away.

I've had a gun pulled on me and pulled a guy out of a totalled car before, but I know that the one time someone has a f*cking camera phone out will be the one time I panic and that's how I'll be remembered.

29-11-2019 06:06PM

Been there and done that. Keyboard warrior if you like - but it is true.

However the question in the OP is not what have I done but what would I do. And to be honest I am not so sure any more.

First because I now have children. When I stepped up before I only had myself to consider. I would love to say I was brave enough to think "I could die here - but the risk is worth it I have to help!" but in fact it happened so fast I did not even make that calculation. I saw someone in need and I stepped in. No thought process.

Now - I consider the kids first _always_. And they deserve a father so I am not about to get myself killed on a whim.

Second though because the way things have gone I have heard too many situations where the person who stepped into a situation to help - fell foul of the law themselves. Which is a fecked up reality but the reality none the less. Imagine my GFs having to tell my kids "Daddy is going to prison kids for a couple of years because he tried to save someone's life". Could I live with that?

Worse I have even heard of anecdotes where people stepped into help someone - and the person they were trying to help turned on them.

I would still like to think if I see a situation again I will step up. But I have doubts now. Large ones. If camera phone video is admissible evidence (is it? I genuinely don't know) perhaps whipping it out and filming it sometimes is the best thing to do?

Silentcorner · 29-11-2019 06:15PM

I think it is fascinating the way people react to incidents like this, another nutter was chased around a city in Australia recently by a bunch of men until they caught him....no one has any idea how they would react.

I have found that whenever there is heavy lifting involved, men will come to help you, if you ever see some poor misfortune collapsed on a street, it'll be a woman who will hold them and offer support...it's a really lovely thing about people, it's such a human reaction to trauma of whatever kind!

BDI · 29-11-2019 06:17PM

I’d shimmy left and right like a fast crab annoying him while he lunged for me like an angry fencer but never getting close because I’d always be atleast 7 steps from him.

I’d try stall him until more people arrived. Preferably some nutjob with a bar stool or something longer than a knife.

Jealous people would then belittle my performance because they ran like scuttling wood lice on an upturned log and if they used up all their energy hating me they wouldn’t have any to hate themselves.

If I was very drunk I’d get lacerated and people would complain that I bloodied up their establishment.

It’s a thankless job but that’s how my body reacts in these situations. Like a fast moving crab.

Widdershins · 29-11-2019 07:42PM

I don't know but I think my inner psycho would rear up and I'd just react. My blood would boil and I could be a dangerous b1tch. Adrenalin can move mountains. The fight instinct seems to click on easier than the flight instinct

Gynoid · 29-11-2019 07:43PM

Hmmm. Honestly dont know because I think those kind of situations are responded to completely instinctively, unless someone has some kind of training. Many years ago a woman ran in screaming to my work place, and a very white faced man grimly followed her holding up a shoe, stiletto facing out like a weapon. As he neared her I ran over and stood in front of her, between them, and he tried to attack her by jabbing to either side of me. It was enough time for him to be grabbed by some men. I honestly had not one thought in my head when I did it, all purely instinct and adrenalin. Dont know how I would react now.

20Wheel · 29-11-2019 07:44PM

See I go quickly.
I go easy.
I go greyhound.

beejee · 29-11-2019 07:49PM

An opportunity to murder with no consequences?

You can go the bludgeon route by hammering fists and then collapsing the skull by stamping.

But if you really want the intimate experience you grip the throat, dig the fingers in around the adams apple for grip then rip the throat open. Hold the forehead with the other hand for leverage.

corner of hells · 29-11-2019 07:59PM

beejee wrote: »

An opportunity to murder with no consequences?

You can go the bludgeon route by hammering fists and then collapsing the skull by stamping.

But if you really want the intimate experience you grip the throat, dig the fingers in around the adams apple for grip then rip the throat open. Hold the forehead with the other hand for leverage.

You're Batman , right ?

Oink · 29-11-2019 08:02PM

I think it’s fair to say that I would start by pi.ssing myself. I would then ask him a few times if he’s talking to me. What happens after that is anyone’s guess.

beejee · 29-11-2019 08:03PM

corner of hells wrote: »

You're Batman , right ?

Nope. Just always ready to maximise a chance to focus rage. It's catharsis at its finest!

29-11-2019 08:03PM

wait til someone else does something first then look like i was totally helping

Gynoid · 29-11-2019 08:08PM

I'm reconsidering my super fast ninja reflexes here because I've only just read that this happened today, I thought the thread was about an old story.

Widdershins · 29-11-2019 08:19PM

beejee wrote: »

Nope. Just always ready to maximise a chance to focus rage. It's catharsis at its finest!

I remember hearing that krav maga is basically a mix of techniques based on an explosive display of violence and adaptability to any situation. I think it's the ideal martial art form for an event like this. You sound like you'd like it

Dual wheels · 29-11-2019 08:21PM

I would go, that’s not a knife, this is a knife. M Dundee.

corner of hells · 29-11-2019 08:22PM

Widdershins wrote: »

I remember hearing that krav maga is basically a mix of techniques based on an explosive display of violence and adaptability to any situation. I think it's the ideal martial art form for an event like this. You sound like you'd like it

My JRT does it when he's hunting rats.

Gynoid · 29-11-2019 08:25PM

corner of hells wrote: »

My JRT does it when he's hunting rats.

Oh kay, I have done one minute going Jolly Rotten Trump, Jealous rainy terrier, Jubiliant red-faced trainer etc etc...now you can tell me what it is.

29-11-2019 08:36PM

Gynoid wrote: »

Oh kay, I have done one minute going Jolly Rotten Trump, Jealous rainy terrier, Jubiliant red-faced trainer etc etc...now you can tell me what it is.

jack russell terrier

realitykeeper · 29-11-2019 08:42PM

bitofabind wrote: »

Just watching the video of the pedestrians getting stuck in on the dude with the knife on London Bridge earlier - particularly love the guy in the suit who takes the knife out of his hands and backs away from him, fair play to him!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7739353/Brave-bystanders-bundled-terror-attack-knifeman-ground.html

Hard to guess what your response is gonna be in these situations, but I'd say with 99% certainty that I'd be running for the hills in the opposite direction.

What about you AH?

The Brits are still occupying part of our country but as a man of peace, I would not help him.

Gynoid · 29-11-2019 08:48PM

bluewolf wrote: »

jack russell terrier

Thanks

a dog doing krav maga threw me off the scent!

J. Marston · 29-11-2019 08:52PM

This would be me during such an incident...

AllForIt · 29-11-2019 09:08PM

bluewolf wrote: »

wait til someone else does something first then look like i was totally helping

I'd give moral support - "yeah - go get 'em"

endacl · 29-11-2019 09:14PM

bitofabind wrote: »

What about you AH?

Would you get involved?

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